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Post  bb1 Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:09 pm

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/london-2012-olympic-games/2012/01/13/london-2012-sniffer-dogs-miss-20kilo-fake-bomb-in-olympic-park-security-test-115875-23696762/

London 2012: Sniffer dogs miss 20kilo fake bomb in Olympic Park security test
Exclusive by Tom Pettifor, Daily Mirror 13/01/2012


Sniffer dogs failed to detect 20 kilos of explosives in a security test at the Olympic site.

A lorry carrying the potential bomb was waved through by the canine search team during a recent dummy run – although it was eventually stopped after a later manual search.

It follows earlier claims that a fake device that did not contain explosives made it through all checks.

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In the latest incident, the sniffer dogs missed just over 44lbs of ammonium nitrate, a home-made fertiliser explosive used by al-Qaeda terrorists.

A source said: “The amount was enough to cause serious loss of life. It’s shocking that it was missed.”

There are around 30 sniffer dogs at the site in Stratford, East London, but they can only work for short periods before becoming distracted or bored.

Thousands of troops will be called in to assist police and private security firms to carry out searches on members of the public.

Scotland Yard confirmed that undercover exercises had been carried out to test security.

A spokesman said: “The Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) has provided support to the Olympic Delivery Authority’s (ODA) assurance process that is being run at the Olympic Park.

“The ODA also runs its own security resilience tests to ensure that preparations for the London 2012 Games are as robust as possible.”

An Olympic spokesman added: “We test rigorously and regularly, to ensure that we will deliver a safe and secure Games.”




they can only work for short periods before becoming distracted or bored.


quite.
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Post  sans_souci Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:32 pm

But were the ENHANCED sniffer dogs?

No? Well then........

Call in Eddie. He will play with it, toss it in the air.....

Boom Boom.

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Post  Pedro Silva Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:42 pm

another proof that dogs are not reliable, another proof that dogs can fail in their duties.
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Post  crazytony Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:47 pm

There are around 30 sniffer dogs at the site in Stratford, East London
Ah but, did all 30 inspect the load?
I cannot see all 30 missing it. However, it does not excuse the fact that even one dog missed it.

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Post  greenink211 Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:00 pm

honestbroker wrote:Reading the article, I picked up on the same sentence as you, Bonny:

There are around 30 sniffer dogs at the site in Stratford, East London, but they can only work for short periods before becoming distracted or bored.

I'm wondering if the same is true of cadaver dogs?

How long did Grime plug away before finally eliciting a response?

I watched the dog video recently.

Am certain that they were still working when it got dark and one of the people speaking said they would have to come back the next day as it was so late. Very suggestive of long hours.
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Post  bb1 Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:07 pm

It's worse than that.....

http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic35-10.html

Quote:

Sniffer Dog Report

Date: 06 and 07 August 2007


and:


On 6th August 2007 at about 15.17 a sniffer dog inspection was carried out of the following cars that had been placed for this purpose in the underground car park mentioned previously:


So far, so good....but look at the time the car searches resume:

The Renault Scenic vehicle – number plate 59-DA-27 was removed to the third floor of the underground car park and was subjected to a forensic search by officers from the Scientific Police Laboratory and another sniffer dog inspection that began at 03.49 on 7th August by the dog KEELA, which detected human blood remains, the following results were noted:

03.53 – the dog “marked” a zone on the right inferior side of the inside of the luggage compartment of the vehicle;


That was going on at a time when both people and animals are at their lowest.

Look at the business with the clothes:


Official record of the canine inspection at 23h20 on 2 August 2007 at the Municipal Pavilion of Lagos, [situated in] Lagos.

That went on until:

There being nothing more the activity stopped at 01h30.
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Post  greenink211 Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:26 pm

OMG those dogs were being worked hard weren't they?
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Post  sadie Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:04 pm

Quietest time of the night. 4 am

Not many people around at that time to watch exactly what they were doing

... And how many times perchance?

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Post  bb1 Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:26 pm

And no-one would be particularly alert at that time of night, Sadie. I would be amazed if one or two hadn't had wine with their evening meal Wink
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Post  sadie Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:37 pm

Every bit Bonny, but with one guy, if reports are true, he was in that state most of the time


Seem to remember comments in the early days that some of the filming showed the Mccann car with posters in the windows, but other versions showed the Mccann car minus the posters, but both undergoing the search. Anyone clarify that?

Wonder how many times they ran that scenario before the (longer) version we have seen was finalised?

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Post  bb1 Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:43 pm

Tony and HB are our experts on that sequence, Sadie, but in brief...

The posters were there at the start of filming, and removed at some later point in filming.

I took these frames from the video a while back.

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Post  sadie Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:00 pm

That, in itself, seems funny to me. Thanks for the info Bonny smile

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Post  bb1 Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:54 pm

Tony and HB know more about the dogs than me, Sadie. Obviously, no-one thinks dogs can read - but handlers can.

I don't think for one minute that Grime prompted Eddie deliberately, but anyone who has dogs, knows how easily they pick up on their human's behaviour.

It is clear in the videos that Eddie was more interested in something half-way up the garage wall, and had to be called back to the McCanns car.

Also, Gonc states as FACT that the decomposing, defrosting remains of Madeleine McCann were carried in the trunk of the car:

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id139.html


"The cadaver was frozen"

Correio da Manhã - What do you think happened to the body?

Gonçalo Amaral – Everything indicated that the body, after having been at a certain location, was moved into another location by car, twenty something days later. With the residues that were found inside the car, the little girl had to have been transported inside it.

How can you state that?

Due to the type of fluid, we policemen, experts, say that the cadaver was frozen or preserved in the cold and when placed into the car boot, with the heat at that time [of the year], part of the ice melted. On a curb, for example, something fell from the trunk's right side, above the wheel. It may be said that this is speculation, but it's the only way to explain what happened there.

Rolling Eyes

Setting aside the sheer ghoulishness of that - it is totally, utterly ridiculous.

A police officer drove the car to the garage; many people had used it since - whenever Gonc thinks it was used as a hearse. I do think they would have said something, because -

IF IT HAD BEEN USED AS GONC CLAIMS, THE SMELL WOULD HAVE BEEN SO BAD THERE WOULD BE NO NEED FOR DOGS

So, bits of this non-existent 'corpse fluid' dripped out at the right hand side of the trunk, did it?

THEN WHY DID EDDIE SHOW NO INTEREST WHATSOEVER IN THE UNDERSIDE OF THE TRUNK WHEN HE WAS BENEATH THE CAR?

All he was howling at was a miniscule spot of Gerryblood on the keyfob - I do believe Gerry McCann is alive?

There was no ' body fluid' in the car; Gonc is the Original Source of that stupid, outright lie.

I saw one of the forkers claiming somewhere that 'Madeleine's blood' was found in the car.

Well, that's good news, it means she was alive when the car was hired. Though I am surprised no-one saw her sitting in it, under the circumstances.

See, the stupid forkers don't even seem to know -

IF THERE IS ONE THING WEEKS-OLD, DECOMPOSING CORPSES DO NOT DO, IT'S BLEED

Mind you, they cannot even grasp that there were THIRTY-SEVEN DNA markers in the car, only 15 of which were linked in any way to Madeleine McCann, so what else can we expect from people as reality-challenged as that?
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Post  sadie Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:03 pm

I seem to be the only one who has noticed anything, but I still wonder if the dog gulped a tiny morsel down that he found in the back of the car. I guess as no one else thought the same, I must be wrong.

It maybe was unwittingly, but Grime definitely kept calling Eddie back ... and in a firm way. We didn't see any of that sort of behaiour with the other cars.

That alone is biased. There should have been the same attention shown to other cars. Eddie would have known he was supposed to find something there. Wonder if he might have reacted to other cars with the same perseverance. Wonder how many cars there had tiny blood traces in them? Bet they nearly all did.



Need HB now, cos I forget what Eddie marked at.

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Post  Maggs Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:38 pm

bb1 wrote:Tony and HB are our experts on that sequence, Sadie, but in brief...

The posters were there at the start of filming, and removed at some later point in filming.

I took these frames from the video a while back.

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And then they were gone
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http://justice4mccannfam.5forum.biz/t1924-something-very-wrong-here
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Post  crazytony Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:44 pm

Hang on, has the car been moved in the picture without the flyer showing within?

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Post  bb1 Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:49 pm

http://justice4mccannfam.5forum.biz/t1924-something-very-wrong-here

Something else I noticed, if you stop the video at 2.58 note that the chevrons on the car park floor are about 10 to 12 ft away from the front of the car as you look from the rear of the car they are to your left, now look where the chevrons are at 4.19, they are directly alongside the car, this means that they have been moving the car around between the video shots.

This means that in at least TWO places, the film has been CUT, making parts missing from the video and the police and Martin Grime have been moving the evidence around.
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Post  bb1 Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:50 pm

http://justice4mccannfam.5forum.biz/t1924-something-very-wrong-here

Also stop the video at 2.17 and note where the white line on the floor area is, it is running parallel between the A and the 2 on the number plate, stop the video again at 2.20 you will see that the tyre of car is NOT touching the line, stop the video again at 2.21 and you will see that the car has been moved and now the tyre of the car looks to be parked almost touching it and note that the white line is now running parallel clear of the letter on the number plate, indicating that somewhere between 2.17 and 2.21, the car has been moved!

This is HIGHLY significant as this is when Eddie is supposed to be indicating a positive!

What were these people doing moving the car around and making it look like Eddie had indicated a positive? Bearing in mind all the trouble they had making Eddie indicate in the beginning, we all thought it was minutes longer than the other cars, it now looks like so much more time was given to this car and that when Eddie FAILED to indicate at it, the video was stopped, the car moved and filming restarted and then Eddie indicates a positive.

Perhaps Amaral AND Martin Grime would like to explain why the car was moved and exactly how much time was spent forcing Eddie to indicate at this car?

You do realise that the timing on the video has been doctored to make it look like the video has been running without a break?
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Post  crazytony Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:55 pm

bb1 wrote:http://justice4mccannfam.5forum.biz/t1924-something-very-wrong-here

Something else I noticed, if you stop the video at 2.58 note that the chevrons on the car park floor are about 10 to 12 ft away from the front of the car as you look from the rear of the car they are to your left, now look where the chevrons are at 4.19, they are directly alongside the car, this means that they have been moving the car around between the video shots.

This means that in at least TWO places, the film has been CUT, making parts missing from the video and the police and Martin Grime have been moving the evidence around.
That's what you call evidence tampering!

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Post  bb1 Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:57 pm

Those videos are of no value whatsoever, except as a sales pitch.

That is a very interesting thread on J4, it keeps all the info together.
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Post  crazytony Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:06 am

bb1 wrote:Those videos are of no value whatsoever, except as a sales pitch.

That is a very interesting thread on J4, it keeps all the info together.
What is worse Bonny, Grime was in on it!

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Post  bb1 Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:21 am

I know, Tony, I don't want to think badly of him, but he had to know it was all wrong?
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