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Express - Is this the moment of Madeleine's kidnapping?
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/437948/Is-this-the-moment-of-Madeleine-McCann-s-kidnapping
Is this the moment of Madeleine McCann's kidnapping?
THE man who has emerged as key to the Madeleine McCann inquiry assumed a man he saw carrying a blonde girl the night she disappeared was a father with his child.
By: James MurrayPublished: Sun, October 20, 2013
Today, for the first time, the Sunday Express publishes extracts from the witness statement retired Irish businessman Martin Smith gave to detectives in Portugal.
As the hunt for the kidnappers moves shortly to Ireland for a new Scotland Yard appeal, we reveal how this crucial piece of the jigsaw was nearly lost because Mr Smith thought it was not important.
He owns an apartment in Praia da Luz on the Algarve coast, and was staying there with a large family group on May 3, 2007, when Madeleine was taken from an apartment at the Ocean Club.
First they went to the Dolphin restaurant and then to Kelly’s bar, near the beach.
Mr Smith’s statement, written out by a Portuguese detective, says: “After leaving the bar he (Mr Smith) travelled in the opposite direction and reached a set of stairs which gave access to Rua 25 de Abril (25th of April Street), parallel to Rua 1 de Maio (1st of May street).
“As he reached this artery, he crossed an individual holding a child. He is not aware where this person was headed. He assumed it was a father and daughter and thought nothing more of it.
“When he passed this individual, it must have been around 22.00. He did not know at the time that a child had disappeared. He only became aware of the disappearance...the next morning.
“Regarding the individual, he states that he was Caucasian, 175-180cm in height. He appeared to be 35/40 years old. He had a normal complexion, a bit on the thin side.
“His hair was short, brown in colour. He states that the child was female, about four years of age. The child has blonde...without being very light. Her skin was very white, typical of a Brit. She was asleep.
“She was wearing light-coloured pyjamas. The individual did not appear to be a tourist. He cannot explain this further. It was simply his perception.
“He states that the individual carried the child in his arms. Having already seen various photographs of Madeleine...he states that she may have been the child he saw. He cannot state this as fact but is convinced that it could have been Madeleine.”
Mr Smith’s wife Mary said: “We saw a man carrying a blonde child. It was just such a normal thing to see in a holiday resort – we didn’t think anything of it at the time.”
In 2008 Mr Smith worked on e-fit images, which were released on the BBC’s Crimewatch programme last week. Detectives from Scotland Yard’s Operation Grange have had over 2,400 calls and emails since the programme last Monday.
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I'd like to know what Mr Smith actually said, as opposed to a translation of his statement 'paraphrased' by a Portuguese detective.
And anyone who imagines Gerry McCann had the physics-defying ability to be in two places at one time should seek help from a mental health professional. Either they've lost the little grip they had on reality or they're trolling for their own amusement.
Is this the moment of Madeleine McCann's kidnapping?
THE man who has emerged as key to the Madeleine McCann inquiry assumed a man he saw carrying a blonde girl the night she disappeared was a father with his child.
By: James MurrayPublished: Sun, October 20, 2013
Today, for the first time, the Sunday Express publishes extracts from the witness statement retired Irish businessman Martin Smith gave to detectives in Portugal.
As the hunt for the kidnappers moves shortly to Ireland for a new Scotland Yard appeal, we reveal how this crucial piece of the jigsaw was nearly lost because Mr Smith thought it was not important.
He owns an apartment in Praia da Luz on the Algarve coast, and was staying there with a large family group on May 3, 2007, when Madeleine was taken from an apartment at the Ocean Club.
First they went to the Dolphin restaurant and then to Kelly’s bar, near the beach.
Mr Smith’s statement, written out by a Portuguese detective, says: “After leaving the bar he (Mr Smith) travelled in the opposite direction and reached a set of stairs which gave access to Rua 25 de Abril (25th of April Street), parallel to Rua 1 de Maio (1st of May street).
“As he reached this artery, he crossed an individual holding a child. He is not aware where this person was headed. He assumed it was a father and daughter and thought nothing more of it.
“When he passed this individual, it must have been around 22.00. He did not know at the time that a child had disappeared. He only became aware of the disappearance...the next morning.
“Regarding the individual, he states that he was Caucasian, 175-180cm in height. He appeared to be 35/40 years old. He had a normal complexion, a bit on the thin side.
“His hair was short, brown in colour. He states that the child was female, about four years of age. The child has blonde...without being very light. Her skin was very white, typical of a Brit. She was asleep.
“She was wearing light-coloured pyjamas. The individual did not appear to be a tourist. He cannot explain this further. It was simply his perception.
“He states that the individual carried the child in his arms. Having already seen various photographs of Madeleine...he states that she may have been the child he saw. He cannot state this as fact but is convinced that it could have been Madeleine.”
Mr Smith’s wife Mary said: “We saw a man carrying a blonde child. It was just such a normal thing to see in a holiday resort – we didn’t think anything of it at the time.”
In 2008 Mr Smith worked on e-fit images, which were released on the BBC’s Crimewatch programme last week. Detectives from Scotland Yard’s Operation Grange have had over 2,400 calls and emails since the programme last Monday.
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I'd like to know what Mr Smith actually said, as opposed to a translation of his statement 'paraphrased' by a Portuguese detective.
And anyone who imagines Gerry McCann had the physics-defying ability to be in two places at one time should seek help from a mental health professional. Either they've lost the little grip they had on reality or they're trolling for their own amusement.
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/5211612/Madeleine-McCann-cops-probe-two-Brit-paedo-killers-who-travelled-to-Spain.html
Right time... right face?
McCann cops probe 2 Brit paedo killers
Similarities ... suspects Charles O'Neill and William Lauchlan and e-fits
These two have come up before:
Two convicted paedophiles have been questioned by British police over the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
Charles O’Neill, 48, and William Lauchlan, 34, were jailed last year over sex attacks on children and the murder of a mother who had threatened to expose them.
The Mail on Sunday has learned they were interviewed in prison by detectives after inquiries revealed they were touring Spain, and possibly Portugal, on false passports when Madeleine vanished in May 2007.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1384705/Madeleine-McCann-Police-quiz-convicted-murderers-Kate-McCann-gives-chilling-account-moment-daughter-missing.html#ixzz2iFfufrtn
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Right time... right face?
McCann cops probe 2 Brit paedo killers
Similarities ... suspects Charles O'Neill and William Lauchlan and e-fits
These two have come up before:
Two convicted paedophiles have been questioned by British police over the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
Charles O’Neill, 48, and William Lauchlan, 34, were jailed last year over sex attacks on children and the murder of a mother who had threatened to expose them.
The Mail on Sunday has learned they were interviewed in prison by detectives after inquiries revealed they were touring Spain, and possibly Portugal, on false passports when Madeleine vanished in May 2007.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1384705/Madeleine-McCann-Police-quiz-convicted-murderers-Kate-McCann-gives-chilling-account-moment-daughter-missing.html#ixzz2iFfufrtn
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
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to be honest, I don´t see any similarities, but, of course, I´m no expert.
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No, it's a stretch, Pedro. Maybe the problem is that there are so many loose ends, people with criminal records involving children who were possibly in the area and were never eliminated properly?
These two scumbags targeted boys, but the real police - not armchair defectives - will be aware that sh*ts like them swap notes on victims.
These two scumbags targeted boys, but the real police - not armchair defectives - will be aware that sh*ts like them swap notes on victims.
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Re: Where could "Smith-man" have been heading? (OR: Was there ever a "Smith-man"?)
Post Tony Bennett Today
winjoy wrote:
Eyei wrote:
winjoy wrote:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/437948/Is-this-the-moment-of-Madeleine-McCann-s-kidnapping
The Sunday Express...
I was fairly gobsmacked when I read [this article], but at the same time delighted!
Quote from Sunday Express:
In 2008 Mr Smith worked on e-fit images...
Where? In Drogehda, his home. Or elsewhere?
With whom? Who exactly worked with him on these e-fits? Presumably Kennedy's private investigators. Gary Hagland? Metodo 3? Dave Edgar? Kevin Halligen (also Irish)? Where did they travel from? How much did it cost?
When? On what date did Smith agree to do e-fits? When did someone come to see him to do these efits? On what date were they produced?
Who decided to withhold the e-fits? The McCanns? The McCanns' advisers? (Clarence Mitchell, Edward Smethurss, Brian Kennedy, their lawyers?)
Which member of the Smith family drew up each e-fit? Who drew up 'Smithman 1' (thin pointy chin version) and who drew up 'Smithman 2' (fat face, older man version
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I've a couple of questions.
1. WTF has any of it got to do with Bennett?
2. Has he forgotten what he said in the Royal Court of Justice, and to BBC News, about keeping his nose out of the McCann case?
Post Tony Bennett Today
winjoy wrote:
Eyei wrote:
winjoy wrote:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/437948/Is-this-the-moment-of-Madeleine-McCann-s-kidnapping
The Sunday Express...
I was fairly gobsmacked when I read [this article], but at the same time delighted!
Quote from Sunday Express:
In 2008 Mr Smith worked on e-fit images...
Where? In Drogehda, his home. Or elsewhere?
With whom? Who exactly worked with him on these e-fits? Presumably Kennedy's private investigators. Gary Hagland? Metodo 3? Dave Edgar? Kevin Halligen (also Irish)? Where did they travel from? How much did it cost?
When? On what date did Smith agree to do e-fits? When did someone come to see him to do these efits? On what date were they produced?
Who decided to withhold the e-fits? The McCanns? The McCanns' advisers? (Clarence Mitchell, Edward Smethurss, Brian Kennedy, their lawyers?)
Which member of the Smith family drew up each e-fit? Who drew up 'Smithman 1' (thin pointy chin version) and who drew up 'Smithman 2' (fat face, older man version
--------
I've a couple of questions.
1. WTF has any of it got to do with Bennett?
2. Has he forgotten what he said in the Royal Court of Justice, and to BBC News, about keeping his nose out of the McCann case?
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2. Has he forgotten what he said in the Royal Court of Justice, and to BBC News, about keeping his nose out of the McCann case?
Posting a helpful link for him.
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