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Post  bb1 on Tue Aug 04, 2015 4:56 pm

I've been trying to ignore the Labour leadership election as much as possible, apart from Mutton and the Sistas swooning over Corbyn, but it's starting to get impossible.

And I simply could not let this, er, stunning, artwork from the Corbynettes pass:



That confirms it for me - he's a wrong 'un. rofl rofl rofl rofl


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Post  lily on Tue Aug 04, 2015 4:59 pm

OMG......definitely.   rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl 

Can't they even be original?
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Post  bb1 on Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:07 pm

He reminds me of an earlier US political meme....


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Post  lily on Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:38 pm

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl
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Post  bb1 on Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:14 pm






Well, that's Labour unelectable for a generation, then. Pcorneater

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Post  lily on Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:33 pm

Oh dear.  We know of some people that might start crying......Pcorneater
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Post  bb1 on Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:39 pm

They'll cry even more if they are catapulted back into the good old days of British Rail sandwiches, and six-month waiting lists for landlines from the Post Office. rofl rofl rofl rofl

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Post  lily on Sat Aug 08, 2015 11:20 pm

Then they will deserve it.  biggrin
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Post  bb1 on Sun Aug 09, 2015 11:45 am

By Ben Riley-Smith, Political Correspondent10:00PM BST 08 Aug 2015
Labour’s biggest individual donors have pledged to stop giving money if Jeremy Corbyn becomes leader in a move that could leave the party almost entirely dependent on trade union funding.
Five senior donors have told The Telegraph that Mr Corbyn’s victory would be “disastrous” and could lead to Labour being locked out of power for decades.
Millions of pounds of funding from businessmen may be withheld if the Mr Corbyn, the hard-Left candidate and apparent front-runner, wins the contest on September 12.
It is the first time the party’s biggest financial backers have spoken out about Mr Corbyn, with only John Mills, the party’s top individual donor, having voiced concerns until now.
The revelation has triggered fears that Labour’s attempts to rebuild links with industry would be undermined and its dependence on union funding heightened under Mr Corbyn.

Assem Allam, the multi-millionaire who has recently given Labour more than half a million pounds, attacked the party for missing the “message” from voters that hard-Left parties lose elections.
He pledged to stop giving money if Mr Corbyn becomes Labour leader, saying: “I never back a dead horse”.
Richard Brindle, who gave £100,000 under Ed Miliband, also ruled out donating should Mr Corybn win due to his “economically illiterate” policies.

A third donor, who has given a six-figure sum and spoke under the condition of anonymity, said a Corbyn victory would be electoral “suicide” and leave Labour in opposition for 20 years.
Other leading donors including Mr Mills declined to promise they would continue giving if Mr Corbyn wins and openly criticised his Left-wing economic platform.
The backlash comes after a week in which the apparent surge in support for Mr Corbyn, the veteran Islington North MP, showed little sign of slowing.
Hundreds of supporters, many of them in their twenties and thirties, queued round the block to hear him speak at packed public rallies across the country.
With little over a month left before the result, there is real concern among centrist Labour MPs that the hard-Left candidate – who only made the ballot after being “lent” support – could become leader.
However Mr Corbyn’s hard-Left economic agenda, which includes raising the top rate of income tax, rejecting austerity and large-scale renationalisation, is driving away crucial donors.
He has suggested reopening coal mines and bringing energy companies back into public ownership – a move that would cost the government up to £185 billion, according to City analysts.
One analysis conducted by a Labour Party insider and leaked to the press estimated ‘Corbynomics’ would results in £55bn more government spending and £14bn worth of tax rises.
Mr Corbyn, first elected to Parliament in 1983, has also expressed admiration for Karl Marx during the leadership campaign, calling the communist philosopher’s analysis “quite brilliant”.
A string of Labour’s financial backers openly attacked Mr Corbyn after being approached by this newspaper and warned against supporters backing him in the contest.
“If Jeremy Corbyn or any left-winger wins, Labour will lose next election and the one after,” said Mr Allam, the owner of Hull City who has given more than £500,000 to the party in the last three years.
“I don’t want a Prime Minister or a leader of the party – in opposition or in government – who is controlled by trade unions. It will not work.”


He said supporters would be “insane” to pick a leader who is to the Left of Mr Miliband and warned that the election defeat showed “the nation says no to left-wing Labour”.
Asked if he would give money to the party if Mr Corbyn becomes leader, Mr Allam replied: “People who know me know I never back a dead horse.”
Mr Brindle, an insurance mogul, also pledged to give no more cash. “He is a man of great integrity but his policies are economically illiterate and a lot of them just aren’t practical either. It is just not a realistic platform for government,” he said. “It is a bit of a time warp to be honest.”
A third donor, who asked not to be named, indicated he would not give again under Mr Corbyn’s leadership.
“If Corbyn wins it's back to the nightmare of the 1980s with Labour split from top to toe and handing the Tories almost 20 years in power,” the donor said. “New European parties like Syriza and Podemos don't split the Left vote under proportional representation but under our British voting system it's suicide.”


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Doncha just love Corbyn's fondnesss for the old days of heavy industry and general inefficiency? It wouldn't be quite so bad if he was from a northern constituency, but thirty plus years as MP for Islington, of all places? rofl

PS - If we're going back to the 'seventies, does that mean The Sweeney will be back on telly? Pcorneater

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Post  lily on Sun Aug 09, 2015 3:05 pm

Will there be lots of power cuts too?
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Post  bb1 on Sun Aug 09, 2015 3:14 pm

Bound to be, Lily. Oh, but can you imagine what the SJWs would be like if their iphones weren't working? The horror!!!!

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Post  lily on Sun Aug 09, 2015 3:26 pm

The poor lambs will just have to learn to suck it up and get used to them and look forward to the days when they are allowed electricity....
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Post  bb1 on Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:55 pm

http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2015/08/12/labour-mps-to-launch-coup-against-jeremy-corbyn-on-day-one

By Adam Bienkov
Wednesday, 12 August 2015 8:37 AM
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The parliamentary Labour party will seek to oust Jeremy Corbyn as soon as he becomes leader, a Labour MP has warned.

Simon Danczuk told LBC that Labour MPs would "not put up" with the "crazy left-wing policies" Corbyn plans to pursue as leader.

Asked if the plotting against Corbyn would begin "on day one" he replied: "Yeah, if not before. As soon as the result comes out."

"Am I going to put up with some crazy left wing policies that he is putting forward and traipse through the voting lobby to support him? It's not going to happen is it? So I would give him about twelve months if he does become leader."


backstab backstab backstab

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Post  bb1 on Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:59 pm

http://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/call-to-stop-labour-leader-race-over-entryism-1-3856551

A YouGov poll on Tuesday gave Mr Corbyn a commanding lead while bookmakers installed him as favourite, but the contest remains unpredictable due to a change in the Labour Party’s rules for electing a leader.

Some 282,000 party members, 92,000 trade union and other affiliated members are eligible to vote, but members of the general public can also cast a ballot by joining Labour as a “registered supporter” for £3, with 70,000 so far signing up.

The rule change introduced by Mr Miliband has led to fears of entryism by hard-left groups or Tories seeking to influence the outcome of the contest, but the party has insisted it has robust procedures in place to identify them and stop their votes being cast.

The campaign teams of all four candidates attended a meeting yesterday designed to clear up confusion around how the competition would work, while Labour MP Simon Danczuk called for the contest to be re-run.

Despite the deadline to register as a member or supporter passing today, Labour insisted it would continue to weed out non-Labour supporters once ballots had been cast.

The process includes monitoring 20,000 social media feeds for people who have signed up as supporters but who may not back Labour.

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Post  lily on Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:18 pm

For heaven's sake....Pcorneater
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Post  bb1 on Thu Aug 13, 2015 6:50 pm

Those not in the UK, who are unaware of the sort of person that has voted for Man of the People Corbyn for the last 30+ years, may be interested to see how poverty-stricken his constituency is:

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/Islington-87515.html

Last year most property sales in Islington involved flats which sold for on average £542,042. Terraced properties sold for an average price of £1,340,578, while semi-detached properties fetched £1,841,008.

Islington, with an overall average price of £699,194 was cheaper than nearby Canonbury (£922,115), Barnsbury (£791,517) and Highbury (£795,879).

During the last year, sold prices in Islington were 15% up on the previous year and 40% up on 2012 when the average house price was £500,556.


Doncha just love champagne socialists? rofl rofl rofl

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Post  lily on Thu Aug 13, 2015 7:05 pm

You bet.  roflroflroflroflroflrofl
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'Ideologically pure'? What could possibly go wrong? Pcorneater

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Post  lily on Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:11 pm

What, you say?   A lot....Pcorneater
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Post  bb1 on Fri Aug 14, 2015 11:20 am

http://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/politics/video-jeremy-corbyn-says-no-to-a-second-independence-referendum-1.894717

A second referendum on Scottish independence should not be held any time in the near future, the frontrunner to become UK Labour leader has said.

Speaking to The Courier ahead of a packed-out rally in Dundee University’s Dalhousie Building, Jeremy Corbyn rejected the idea of holding another vote on the constitution, despite comparisons being made between his campaign and the narrative used by the SNP.

He said any potential decision about Labour’s stance would be for the Scottish party to make but he fully expected it to once again campaign for the continuation of the United Kingdom.


Same as it ever was - I just knew it.

And comparisons between him and the SNP are bogus, as the SNP are NOT a socialist party. There's also the whole 'independence' thing, which he has just squashed.

He's just like all the rest, he just makes fancier speeches.

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Post  bb1 on Fri Aug 14, 2015 11:32 am

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/aug/12/jeremy-corbyn-profile-unlikely-candidate-remarkable-ascent

The facts, then, are these. Corbyn grew up in Shropshire, the younger son of an engineer and a maths teacher. School was the local grammar; even then he was an active Labour supporter, and by 15 he had joined the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament. Periods as a volunteer in Jamaica, working for the National Union of Public Employees (a forerunner of Unison), and a short-lived stint at North London Polytechnic followed. By 1974, at the age of 25, he had been elected to Haringey council in north London; nine years later he won the parliamentary seat of Islington North, a position he has held ever since. Corbyn has been an active campaigner on select issues for many years – nuclear disarmament, anti-fascism, Palestinian solidarity – and is both a vice-chair of CND and chair of the Stop the War coalition.

He has been married three times, a subject he hates to discuss, though he gave a curious interview in 1999 with his soon-to-be-former second wife, with whom he has three sons, in which he agreed that one of the reasons for their separation was her decision to send one of their children to grammar school. He has since married Laura Alvarez, a Mexican who imports fair-trade coffee.

Corbyn didn’t complete his polytechnic course, which is not to say he missed out on a political education. In the mid-80s, after being defeated in his own attempt to become Labour deputy leader, Tony Benn invited the young MP to attend a select salon of leftwing intellectuals that met monthly on Sunday evenings over a cup of tea in Benn’s London home.


So, he's never actually worked for a living? He's spent his entire life swanning around spouting lefty platitudes, while comfortably berthed himself for over thirty years in luvvie central aka Islington?

And he knows what's best for the rest of us? Aye, right. Rolling Eyes


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Post  lily on Fri Aug 14, 2015 2:50 pm

Whoever would have guessed?  Personally I prefer people who know how to work.....
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Things must be desperate if those dinosaurs have been dug up.

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Post  lily on Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:22 pm

Shocked Oh my.....indeed.    Pcorneater
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Post  bb1 on Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:29 pm

Corbyn reveals his inner Stalin:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-tells-labour-mps-if-you-dont-back-me-the-grassroots-will-rise-up-10462770.html

Jeremy Corbyn issues a stark warning today to Labour MPs that he expects them to back his radical agenda to reshape the party or face organised revolts by his army of grass-roots supporters.

In a barely coded threat to the right of the party, Mr Corbyn told The Independent that MPs should remember they were only in Parliament because Labour Party members “worked night and day” to get them there.

He called on them to “recognise” that there was a “huge thirst for significant change in the party” and not to “stand in the way” of reforming the party.

“I will absolutely use our supporters to push our agenda up to the parliamentary party and get them to follow that,” he said. “We have to encourage the Parliamentary Labour Party to be part of that process and not to stand in the way of democratising the party and empowering the party members. It is going to be an interesting discussion.”

Mr Corbyn’s comments will fuel fears on the right of the party that his election will precipitate a return of the “trigger ballot” fights of the 1980s where those on the left of the party attempted to deselect MPs who disagreed with the party’s left-wing platform.

Privately, some Labour MPs have told The Independent that they fear they will be “purged” under the cover of boundary changes that are likely to mean large numbers of MPs have to seek early reselection ahead of the next election.

In his comments, Mr Corbyn did little to dismiss these fears, warning that he expected his parliamentary colleagues to back his plan for policy-making to be devolved to his new army of supporters who have propelled him to be the favourite in next month’s contest.


More totalitarianism at link.

It rather suggests that the Labour establishment actually have good reason to be worried about the party having been infiltrated by extreme leftists.

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