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Re: Hopey-changey in the UK

Post  bb1 on Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:44 pm

Not for another five years, Lily, so there's no danger of him doing anything appalling before that. The fact that the Tories are all ROLF-ing and Labour is panicking, gives an idea of just how big a disaster area he is...

I think the vote results are known tomorrow, so if so, it should be entertaining.

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Post  bb1 on Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:07 pm

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/11/merkel-ugly-german-history

Mama Merkel has consigned the ‘ugly German’ to history

No, she hasn't, she has in fact reinforced the 'ugly German' meme. Yet again, a German Chancellor is attempting to impose his/her will on the rest of Europe, in a manner guaranteed to harm them.

The fact that she's doing it because she cares, and has empathy, and all that touchy-feely nonsense does NOT make her actions and words any less dictatorial.

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Post  bb1 on Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:22 am

The winner is due to be announced shortly. If assorted Labour persons ever stop droning on. And on. And on.

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Post  bb1 on Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:30 am

Tom Watson MP, conspiraloon's delight and scoffer of M & S pizzas, has won the deputy position. Pcorneater

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Post  bb1 on Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:43 am

Corbyn has won in the first round. And Cameron and co are popping the champagne. rofl rofl rofl

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Post  bb1 on Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:17 pm

Oh Lord, Corbyn's droning now. Wake me up when the infighting starts. Sleep

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Post  bb1 on Sat Sep 12, 2015 2:49 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/jeremy-corbyn-becomes-labour-leader-today-is-our-darkest-hour--we-have-become-unelectable-10497770.html

It is almost a storyline for a low-budget comedy film, where the Monster Raving Loony Party candidate unexpectedly claims the seat of the Prime Minister. It is something which so hits the party’s credibility, it is difficult to see it recovering by 2025, let alone 2020.

Worst of all, many of the party’s rank and file seem blissfully unaware of this fact.

Following the train wreck of this year’s election defeat, today Labour is sucking its collective thumb and rocking catatonically. Like some post-trauma patient, it has retreated into a nice, secure bubble, hermetically sealed off from the views of the public its politicians aspire to serve. YouGov’s recent polling confirmed the vast gulf between the views and attitudes of the Corbynites, and the British public in general. Labour is saying "la la la, I can't hear you".

Imagine: we have just chosen a leader considerably less electable than Michael Foot, after whose election it took Labour seventeen more years to regain power. And before that, the last time it elected a peacenik leader, George Lansbury, it had also been crushed and it was another thirteen years before a Labour leader would again be Prime Minister.


Not a fan, then.

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Post  lily on Sat Sep 12, 2015 3:23 pm

At least Cameron is happy........
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Post  bb1 on Sat Sep 12, 2015 3:29 pm

He must be ecstatic, Lily. Labour is going to follow the Lib Dems in self-destructing long before 2020, and the Tories are looking to be in power for at least another ten years.

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Post  Lamplighter on Sat Sep 12, 2015 3:40 pm

Not politically minded, as you know, but that news has made my day!!!! Manny Shinwell must be spinning like a damented top!!!! LL
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Post  bb1 on Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:18 pm

http://news.sky.com/story/1551400/labour-frontbench-exodus-after-corbyn-win

Several senior Labour figures have said they will not serve on the party's frontbench after Jeremy Corbyn was elected leader.

Leadership candidates Yvette Cooper and Liz Kendall have already ruled out being part of Mr Corbyn's shadow cabinet, while Chuka Umunna has said he is unlikely to be part of it.

Shadow chancellor Chris Leslie and shadow education secretary Tristram Hunt also indicated they would go to the backbenches.

Shadow communities secretary Emma Reynolds and shadow health minister Jamie Reed quit shortly after the veteran left-winger's overwhelming victory,

Rachel Reeves, the shadow work and pensions secretary, also said when she returns from maternity leave she would go to the backbenches.



http://news.sky.com/story/1551393/union-leaders-say-accept-corbyn-or-quit


The sun may have been shining in Brighton ahead of the TUC, but union reaction to senior Labour figures complaining about Jeremy Corbyn's election as leader was icy.

Sir Paul Kenny, leader of the GMB union, said if Blairites and New Labour grandees refused to accept and respect Mr Corbyn's election they should quit the party now.

Union leaders insist they cannot be blamed for the election of a left-wing rebel, since they have now been stripped of their voting strength and the turnout among union members was derisory.


It's deja vu all over again....

Cameron may be many horrible things, but he isn't a fool. He knows that most of the UK is small-'c' conservative.

AND THAT INCLUDES SCOTLAND.

Again, I haven't the words for the mess the SNP has made of this migrant business; they have made the fatal mistake of only listening to people that agree with them, and ignoring the posts all over social media and comments sections from people who will never vote for them again, and even worse, cancelled their membership.

The Holyrood election next May is going to be very telling - it's taken decades for the SNP to win people's trust, and I fear it has all been thrown away for the currently-fashionable virtue signalling.

All the Tories - and UKIP - have to do is sit back and watch while other parties tear themselves apart, I fear.

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Post  bb1 on Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:48 pm

'I won't bomb ISIS': New Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn tells thousands at refugee rally he wants peace with jihadis - after popping into the pub to sing socialist anthem The Red Flag

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3231747/New-Labour-leader-named.html#ixzz3lYVay9vr
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Cameron must be busting ribs laughing.

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Post  lily on Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:05 pm

Definitely.  He won't be alone either.  He's never run anything before, I understand?

Have you ever known anything so stupid?  Except maybe from over here....roflroflrofl
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Post  bb1 on Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:29 pm

There are certain similarities, what with Sanders lecturing people on racism and poverty from one of the richest, whitest, states in the Union...

Our one has never had an actual job in his life, and has spent the last thirty plus years lecturing the rest of us on the joys of socialist from one of the richest, smuggest, constituencies in the entire nation.

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Post  lily on Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:33 pm

So that's why his proposals make no sense then?
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Post  bb1 on Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:49 pm

They appeal to the chattering classes, social justice warriors and luvvies, Lily. Not to real, working-class type people that work for a living. Pcorneater

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Post  lily on Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:02 pm

Oh...that's why he wants to print billions in Q.E. to fund his projects?   They don't understand what that means?  It's not as though they have to pay anything themselves. Pcorneater
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Post  bb1 on Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:10 pm

Well, the money to reopen the coal mines has to come from somewhere, Lily. And I have absolutely NO idea how that squares with anything resembling 'green' policy.

I am sure Jeremy will make it all come good. rofl

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Post  lily on Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:22 pm

Maybe he will have a green czar or czarina paining it all the correct color?
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Post  Lamplighter on Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:35 pm

I'm waiting to see who comes out of the woodwork, considering Corbyn's past life .... LL
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Post  lily on Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:39 pm

Oooooohhhh, LL.  Anything saucy. do you think?

I did find this when I clicked on a link about a crowd on a white tank going to Cameron's country house.

http://climaterevolution.co.uk/wp/2015/08/17/video-diaries/

Do you think it might be something like her?  roflroflroflrofl
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Post  bb1 on Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:50 pm

Yes, it's going to be most interesting, LL. I don't see him standing up to the pressure; he is NOT a good speaker when he's under pressure from people that don't share his viewpoint.

And there is also the Islington abuse scandal which is NOT going to go away:

http://www.mann4bassetlaw.com/an_open_letter_to_jeremy_corbyn_on_child_abuse

An open letter to Jeremy Corbyn on child abuse

It's a subject I tend to avoid, not least because there is so much mud thrown back and forth, and so much conspiraloonacy involved. This one is slightly different, though, because it undeniably DID happen, and it WAS swept under the carpet.

Note what is said near the end of that letter:

The so called ‘trendy left’ politics of the early 1980s was a contributory factor in covering up child abuse. I myself saw that repeatedly at first hand in Lambeth. Meanwhile children were murdered and disappeared, were raped and beaten, forced into prostitution, trafficked around and a significant number of lives destroyed and blighted.


'Trendy Left', social justice warriors, luvvie lefties, moonbats, whatever you want to call them - they are the same people celebrating the anointing of King Jeremy today.

IMO, that one is going to come back and bite Corbyn on the bum, bigtime.

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Post  Lamplighter on Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:50 pm

No, lily, no sex and Islington High Street, more like his associates from years ago and the ones he still plays golf with. LL
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Clearly, a peace-loving, non-violent tank, Lily. What is it about women and tanks these days? rofl

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Post  lily on Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:02 pm

That is horrible.  I hope it will come back to bite him.

LL, did you see this on there? roflroflroflrofl

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