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Post  Lamplighter on Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:05 am

"many people who normally don't vote Socialist — or don't vote at all — did so this time to prevent a Freedom Party triumph."   As half-Viennese I doubt anyone got blazing angry, bonny, not their style.  And if they had, then the Freedom Party would have won outright.   The Socialists have been in charge since the end of WW2, can't see them getting unseated to be truthful.   I'll let you know what the atmosphere is like when I'm there mid November.    LL


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Post  bb1 on Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:12 am

Yes, that would be most interesting, LL. This situation is volatile anyway - there has been trouble in Holland over the weekend, and more trouble in Germany. And sadly, it's just a matter of time before there is another terrorist attack in Europe, at which point all Hell is likely to break loose, and politicians that have enabled this invasion will be as popular as leprosy.

Just think about how people would feel about these invaders if the French train attack had been successful.....

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Post  bb1 on Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:07 pm

Three men inspired by a 'truly chilling' online fatwa plotted a Lee Rigby style attack on Britain's streets after buying a £39.98 'Rambo' knife, court hears
Nadir Sayed, 22, and Yousaf Syed, 20, and Haseeb Hamayoon, 28, on trial
Men inspired by online fatwa by ISIS' main spokesman, court is told
Trio said to be obsessed with Lee Rigby's murder and other beheadings
Hamayoon accused of buying Rambo First Blood II knife for £39.98
Suspect used password 77911 - reference to terror attacks in US and UK



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Post  lily on Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:00 pm

Well, everything is shaping up horribly....
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Post  Lamplighter on Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:08 am

Fidesz lawmaker denounces pro-immigration activities of Hungarian-American financier George Soros
By Hungary Matters, October 12th, 2015

Financier George Soros, in “cooperation with international and Hungarian organisations, provides financial support for unbridled illegal immigration”, an MP of ruling Fidesz told a press conference. Hungary’s Left “still supports immigration despite a national consultation which has clearly demonstrated that Hungarian people want the country to be protected,” István Hollik said. Soros and organisations “associated with him”, such as the Hungarian Helsinki Committee, the Civil Liberties Union (TASZ) or Migration Aid, will “do everything to allow an unlimited number of immigrants enter the country,” the deputy insisted.

Hollik suggested that Soros was behind a manual issued by the Welcome to Europe organisation, which “encouraged immigrants not to cooperate with Hungarian authorities and refuse to have their fingerprints taken”. Hollik also criticised Soros for “proposing that Europe should pay an annual 15,000 euros to each immigrant and take out a loan to cover that scheme”.
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Post  Lamplighter on Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:11 am

This is a long article by a MEP member of the ruling Fidez party. No comment. LL

http://www.politico.eu/article/western-liberals-have-misunderstood-hungary-migration-geneva-convention/
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Post  bb1 on Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:01 am

And yet, if the liberal thought-world is built on human dignity, universalism and consensual conflict resolution, then Islam gives rise to a collision. Islam has its own version of universalism, and little sympathy for Western liberal values. This collision is a serious challenge to liberalism, which liberals are keen to avoid, even while describing attempts to characterize Islam in this way as racist and xenophobic.

That's an excellent piece, LL, and sums up perfectly how STUPID 'liberal' thought is in this situation. Mainstream christianity must take a lot of blame for this; in western Europe, it's turned into a soft, flabby affair - social work with a few choruses of Kumbaya thrown in.

This is in contrast to eastern Europe, where Christianity was repressed for decades - the difference is especially noticeable in Hungary and Russia. They know problems are not solved by group hugs, feelings and Kumbayas.

Happily, calling people that dislike aggressive islam 'racist, xenophobic', etc., is losing its power, not least because islam is a belief system, NOT a race.

I am not in the least bit surprised to see Soros' name come up yet again; frankly, I detest the people that take his dirty money every bit as much as I detest him.

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Post  lily on Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:21 pm

There is a reason he is called "Dr. Evil".
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Post  bb1 on Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:36 pm

http://www.infowars.com/video-irate-germans-attempt-to-block-buses-full-of-migrants/



https://youtu.be/YXVycEbJn60

The clip begins with police officers pushing back German citizens who are preventing the buses from entering the town.

“You go against your own people, you go in front, we pay your money, our children – their future is ruined – you are ruining this country. Do you have any honor left in your bodies?” says one of the men as the police get more aggressive.


Some of the citizens begin chanting, “Our own people should come first,” before openly goading the police by yelling, “Go ahead and shoot – shoot your own people.”

The officers again order the citizens to get off the street before threatening to get their batons out.


More at link.

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Post  lily on Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:08 pm

The major irony is that the people at the top levels who have decided that there must be equality and diversity etc. are the ones making those decisions?  How is that equal?  

Where Soros is concerned, it must be really exciting for him to watch this Reality TV he has created. mad
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Post  bb1 on Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:11 pm



Luxury travel: A group of seven migrants were reportedly taken from London to Manchester in this £50,000 Hummer limo at a cost of £3,000 covered by the taxpayer, it was claime
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mad mad mad mad mad mad

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Post  bb1 on Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:13 pm



Immigration centre: Many of the immigrants are staying at 1950s hotel Heathrow Lodge and homes that surround it, all owned by multi-millionaire businessman Surinder Arora, 57, thought to be earning tens of thousands a month from the deal

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Their multi-millionaire landlord has a fine old British name....

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Post  lily on Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:19 pm


Their multi-millionaire landlord has a fine old British name....



Doesn't he just.  mad
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Post  Lamplighter on Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:04 am

A Home Office spokesperson added: 'Our contractors are responsible for arranging the transport of asylum seekers and bear the cost of doing so. However, this incident was totally inappropriate and Serco has apologised.

'The terms of our contract with Serco requires them to take all reasonable steps to ensure transport is appropriate. We have reminded the company of their contractual obligations and expressed our strong disapproval. There was no additional cost to the taxpayer.'

Mr Arora did not respond to requests for comment last night.
Arora was born in the Punjab in 1961 to parents who had been displaced from the India/Pakistan border town of Fazilka and were about to emigrate to the United Kingdom.
************ Observation removed.   LL
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Post  lily on Wed Oct 14, 2015 12:14 pm

So he decided to roll out the red carpet for them?
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Post  bb1 on Wed Oct 14, 2015 1:25 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/breast-ironing-in-the-uk-girls-breasts-being-flattened-with-hot-stones-and-metal-in-absurdly-harmful-a6693266.html

Breast ironing in the UK: Girls' breasts being flattened with hot stones and metal in 'absurdly harmful' tradition
The practice is widespread in Cameroon and other nations in West Africa


But it's their heritage, innit? Any objection to women being mutilated is clearly waycist and non-multikulti.

Oh, and judgemental.

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Post  Lamplighter on Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:05 pm

Reuters  Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:20am EDT

Slovakia sends police to guard Hungary's border against migrants
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Migrants walk towards the Austrian border from Hegyeshalom, Hungary, October 6, 2015.

The Slovak government voted on Wednesday to send 50 police officers to help neighboring Hungary control the number of migrants crossing its border on the southern boundary of the European Union.

Slovakia and other central European nations, who have seen tens of thousands of migrants from Syria, Afghanistan and other conflict zones enter their territory, have said the bloc needs to strengthen its external boundaries as part of any collective response.

EU members have struggled to agree on a strategy to tackle the migrant crisis. Hungary, Slovakia and the Czech Republic all opposed a plan for mandatory national quotas to share out 120,000 asylum seekers among the bloc's 28 member states that was approved last month.

"If the Czech Republic, Poland, Slovakia and Hungary join their forces it will be a significant contribution to the protection of the Schengen border between Hungary and Serbia," Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico said, referring to the boundary marking the start of the EU's passport-free zone.

The Slovak police would work on Hungary's border with Serbia for a month, according to documents on the government website. The Czech government has also agreed to send soldiers and police.
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Post  Lamplighter on Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:12 pm

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-1013-mcmullan-hungary-xenophobia-20151013-story.html

Another newspaper writer lambasting Hungary.   LL

Comments re this article:
spinningonair
The propaganda attack on Hungary - and this "article" is part of that concerted propaganda attack - is due to the Hungarian government's unwillingness to participate in the wars that caused this flood of regime change refugees in the first place. To talk about Hungary's "dark past" while Israel just finished another bombing run on the survivors of Gaza, and Washington just bombed into kingdom come another hospital in Afghanistan, is beyond parody. How dare you?
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The author says she had lived in Hungary for a few years. There are a few things I don't get. What does this current migrant crisis have to do with the HOLOCAUST? There is NO connection! Also, Hungary has one of the largest Jewish communities in the EU. Hungarian Jews are VERY WELL OFF and well represented in all areas, including politics, businesses, arts, etc. The writer keeps dwelling on what happened lots of years ago and says nothing about life of Jews (and Christians) in modern Hungary! Makes NO SENSE!
White Christian European American Male
So, a sovereign country can't self-identify and preserve its culture and traditions? Sounds like a bunch of sniveling poppycock to me.



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Post  bb1 on Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:21 pm

What a patronising article! What on earth has the Holocaust got to do with it - apart from the fact that the very people she thinks Hungary should welcome with open arms, detest Jews every bit as much as the Nazis did?

I really cannot stand these lecturing, moralising bien pensants.

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Post  bb1 on Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:24 pm

http://gatesofvienna.net/2015/10/no-rational-arguments-please-were-swedish/

On the subject of Sweden's apparent desire to commit suicide as a functioning European nation.

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Post  Lamplighter on Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:25 pm

She's an American Jew which explains quite a lot.    Her comments about 'the few synagogues left in Budapest' being defaced is a downright lie.   No mention of the fact that a lot of Hungarian Jews were hidden by non-Jews and that Hungary did not deport its Jews, the Nazis, under Eichmann's orders did that, in 1944. People like her make me very angry.   LL


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Post  bb1 on Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:27 pm

She should take her moans up with George Soros, the Hungarian Jew that is financing so much of the turmoil in the world today.

Stupid woman.

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Post  lily on Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:50 pm

bb1 wrote:She should take her moans up with George Soros, the Hungarian Jew that is financing so much of the turmoil in the world today.

Stupid woman.

Amen to that.  Maybe he is supporting her.
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Post  Lamplighter on Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:53 pm

bb1 wrote:She should take her moans up with George Soros, the Hungarian Jew that is financing so much of the turmoil in the world today.

Stupid woman.
There are 28 fully functioning synagogues in Budapest - so from where comes her comment that there are only a few left? Budapest’s Jewish population numbers cca. 110,000, the most significant such community in Europe. I suppose living so far away means she can make up things and her readers will swallow every word. LL
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Post  bb1 on Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:57 pm

Where does it come from? Simple, LL, she's a liar.

And speaking of the devil....

http://www.infowars.com/billionaire-soros-comes-under-fire-in-homeland/

BILLIONAIRE SOROS COMES UNDER FIRE IN HOMELAND
Politicians have accused him of supporting illegal migration amidst a refugee crisis...



Hedge fund mogul George Soros has come under fire in his native Hungary, where politicians have accused him of supporting illegal migration amidst a refugee crisis that’s brought the right-wing government under pressure.

Government representatives including Prime Minister Viktor Orban have slammed Soros in recent weeks for promoting liberal migrant policies and backing a variety of organizations through his pro-democracy charity that have criticized the way Orban’s government has dealt with the crisis.

In opinion pieces published by the Financial Times and Project Syndicate, Soros has said frontline states like Hungary were shirking their asylum obligations, and controversially suggested that a comprehensive European refugee plan should provide each asylum seeker with $16,800 annually for two years to help cover housing, health care and education costs.

“[Soros] keeps bombarding the international public with his earth-shattering plans, quite obviously, in the name of true selflessness which he has manifested in so many ways in the countries where his activities have resulted in sovereign default in the past 30 years,” Hungarian Minister János Lázár, who currently heads the Prime Minister’s Office, said at a press conference earlier this month.

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More on the world's biggest PoS here:

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/14/billionaire-george-soros-comes-under-fire-in-hungary.html

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