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Post  Pedro Silva on Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:28 pm

the truth is: amaral doesn´t care about anyone except himself.
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Post  Pedro Silva on Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:38 pm

about: "transferred to the account of paulo sargento / amaral´s friends", this only proves what I truly suspected: dirty money in other accounts of people related with amaral. this is no surprise.
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Post  lily on Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:01 pm

Exactly Pedro.  This is why they show no transparency whatsoever.
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Post  bb1 on Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:31 pm

http://www.stopthemyths.info/viewtopic.php?f=115&t=7689&start=975

: GoFundMe
Postby tigerloaf » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:24 pm

It has been suggested to me that the large sums supposedly raised by the Go Fund me account may in fact be utterly illusory. It would be very simple for the person receiving the money to pass it on to someone whose role is to put it back in the fund in larger amounts. Collect a thousand in fivers send it on to somebody in Spain perhaps and then suddenly a whopping great donation of £1000 gets put in (well put back in really). Looks like £2000 has been collected. Great way to keep a fund buzzing along and the more is collected the more can be put back.

Now I am not saying that this happened in this case. Merely that it looks just as it would if that scam was being pulled on the mugs who were putting their money in at the base of the pyramid.


Even simpler if the same unknown person in Portimao is running both funds. The same money can be 'donated' - recycled - endlessly.

Not accusing, just sayin'......

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Post  lily on Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:36 pm

I know neither of you are accusing but that theory is entirely plausible.  Pcorneater
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Post  Pedro Silva on Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:59 pm

big true: "This is why they show no transparency whatsoever."
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Post  bb1 on Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:59 am

Dara Anthony ‏@dara_amthony 1h1 hour ago
"The funds closed no need for more, give over here instead" makes me suspect GFM saw money laundering and forced the closure #McCann

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Dara Anthony ‏@dara_amthony 2h2 hours ago
@SafariSara It's interesting that they should close it just as everyone starts to suspect that there's fraud going on #McCann


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Post  bb1 on Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:23 am

http://www.stopthemyths.info/viewtopic.php?f=115&t=7689&start=975

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Firstly, the PJGA fund languished for years on the net with barely a donation from one month to another. Along comes Super Baulch with her GFM project and suddenly The Sun is donating and the trolls fall over themselves to pay a troll fine.

So which fund do they choose to close? The successful one. Which makes no sense, even when you factor in how universally thick the antis are.

Secondly, we were told by the same people that the GFM page is closing as they have more than enough funds, yet here we have them now stating that funds are still needed. The constant promise of excess funds going to children's charities is once again dangled to reassure the common people that their cash will be well spent - by unknown people who refuse to produce detailed accounts (or even basic ones)

So common sense and logic tells us that the stated reasons for closing the GFM fund are bogus. What would make sense?

1. The GFM page is possibly subject to international scrutiny by authorities outside Portugal?

2. There's fraud involved in the GFM page and it's being investigated?

3. The GFM fund page is full of libel and implied threats against the McCanns and this looks bad for St amoral.

4. The GFM fund page is visual proof of a source of income for amoral - the PJGA one isn't? It's large amount cannot be ignored by the courts or tax authority?

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Post  lily on Wed Oct 28, 2015 2:07 pm

Wait until the Sun get involved.  Pcorneater
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Post  bb1 on Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:18 pm

Oh, look....




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Post  Lamplighter on Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:52 pm

Dorbi ‏@KDMoose 3h3 hours ago

HiDeHo's response 2 Marian Graves outed as GFM faker. Props 2 Lizzy 4 making the link between fake GA and MG

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Post  bb1 on Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:55 pm

OMG, she even pretended to be Gonzo???? rofl rofl rofl rofl

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Post  bb1 on Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:13 pm


McCann Legal Defence for Goncalo Amaral Donation: All Comments 01 to 2814
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Oh good, a permanent record of all the cloning and impersonation on the Scrounge Fund!

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Post  Pedro Silva on Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:20 pm

about: "legitimate" , hardly, since we all know what is amaral´s insane purpose about the gofundme.com, which is to feed his lust for easy dirty money, which was from the beginning his only true purpose.
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Post  lily on Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:04 pm

bb1 wrote:OMG, she even pretended to be Gonzo???? rofl rofl rofl rofl


How desperate is that?  roflroflroflroflroflroflroflrofl
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Post  bb1 on Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:34 am

Lizzy Hideho Taylor The PJGA fund has been in place since 2009 to cover legal costs involved and has successfully helped during the trial

The GoFundMe account was set up to help the APPEAL. Once the PJGA deemed they had sufficient funds for the appeal they closed the GFM account.

The PJGA fund is still open for donations for any legal costs incurred in the future.

Nowhere have they claimed more money is very much needed, and in the future if there IS a need they will likely reopen a GFM account for that purpose. All donated money left over will go to a Portuguese Childrens Charity

This fund is run by friends of Goncalo and is available for anyone to donate or one can choose not to donate. There is nothing sinister about it. Its a fund...they receive money and use it for legal costs. There is no legal obligation to indicate how these funds are used, especially considering the outrageous claims, it would make sense to remain silent until the case is over and then maybe we will learn more.

Ultimately, the donations are used in an effort for justice and that is what the fund is all about.



Jesus H. Christ, can't the hater scroungers even get their stories straight? It was stated ON HOHO's OWN HATE PAGE that donations were 'still needed'.


Deborah Jayne Law
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Can I just please clarify a few things to do with the fund for Goncalo Amaral please
The go fund me page only is closing NOT the PJGA official fund
Please note people are welcomed and encouraged to donated to this fund still as funds are still needed and any excess will go to the children's charities once all legal fees are paid
I've received this information direct from Portugal today from those involved in the fund
And there will be a press release soon confirming this
So please do keep giving via the PJGA site links to donate provided below


Make your minds up, Trolls For Gonzo. rofl rofl rofl rofl

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Post  bb1 on Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:37 am


This fund is run by friends of Goncalo and is available for anyone to donate or one can choose not to donate. There is nothing sinister about it. Its a fund...they receive money and use it for legal costs. There is no legal obligation to indicate how these funds are used, especially considering the outrageous claims, it would make sense to remain silent until the case is over and then maybe we will learn more.


So, it's run by unknown people in Portugal. And they won't say where money is going, or to whom, and it's been set up so that they don't have to.

One does hope that that isn't a whiff of fraud one smells coming off the Gonzo Scrounge Fund/s.....

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Post  bb1 on Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:37 am

it would make sense to remain silent until the case is over and then maybe we will learn more

Yes, who needs to answer awkward questions, when your braindead supporters will swallow any old bullshit you feed them? rofl

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OP - someone called 'Deborah Jayne Law' clarifies a few things to do with the Scrounge Fund to announce that money is still needed.

A few posts down, Hoho denies anyone has said money is still needed.

What's that pet saying of the haters? If your story doesn't make sense, it isn't true?

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Post  bb1 on Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:43 am


Maureen Kirkwood
Maureen Kirkwood Is it possible that another GoFundMe could be set up in the future.
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Deborah Jayne Law
Deborah Jayne Law If needed Maureen but the official PJGA fund are asking that all donations for now go directly to there and that they are very much needed




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Post  Sabot on Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:54 am

Obviously something very wrong with The GFM Fund.
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Post  bb1 on Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:02 pm

There's little doubt about that, Sabot.

Bringing these previous posts to this page before they get lost:



One says Gonzo very much needs more dosh from his fan club, another says he doesn't.

And Hoho announces there is no scrutiny of the Scrounge Fund/s whatsoever:

Lizzy Hideho Taylor The PJGA fund has been in place since 2009 to cover legal costs involved and has successfully helped during the trial

The GoFundMe account was set up to help the APPEAL. Once the PJGA deemed they had sufficient funds for the appeal they closed the GFM account.

The PJGA fund is still open for donations for any legal costs incurred in the future.

Nowhere have they claimed more money is very much needed, and in the future if there IS a need they will likely reopen a GFM account for that purpose. All donated money left over will go to a Portuguese Childrens Charity

This fund is run by friends of Goncalo and is available for anyone to donate or one can choose not to donate. There is nothing sinister about it. Its a fund...they receive money and use it for legal costs. There is no legal obligation to indicate how these funds are used, especially considering the outrageous claims, it would make sense to remain silent until the case is over and then maybe we will learn more.

Ultimately, the donations are used in an effort for justice and that is what the fund is all about.


How's this for arrogance from Hoho?

There is no legal obligation to indicate how these funds are used


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Post  bb1 on Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:19 pm

Also being discussed here:

http://www.stopthemyths.info/viewtopic.php?f=115&t=7689&start=1000

GoFundMe

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Where 2 payments of £4,000 appeared on the same day and where one of them mysteriously disappeared?
Where The Sun and it's journos made a donation only for it to be Ms greaves misrepresenting them?
Where one donation was split into 4 from people who knew nothing about it so that others would be encouraged to donate?
Where one member was outed as not having paid into the fund?
Where people were told not to mention the woman who set the fund up again?
Where a mysterious group in Portugal took over the Fund? And then closed it suddenly?
Where no accounts have been produced to tell the people donating where their money is going, as a matter of courtesy?
Where people are told there is enough money and then that more is needed?
Where donators used fake and made up names, plus the names of real people who would never donate to such a fund?


Sums it up nicely. The Scrounge Fund seems to have a lot in common with the Kids' Company crooks.

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Post  Sabot on Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:29 pm

The GFM Page was set up because everyone, and The Portuguese were ignoring the original Fund. This was a major embarrassment. The Portuguese in general don't like or trust Amaral.

So what now? Will the morons go on donating to the Original Fund? Will any more real Portuguese people donate? Probably not.

Personally, I don't care, and I don't have sufficient disposable money to donate to anything. But I do wonder if any of this money has gone directly to Amaral for any past legal fees he has paid himself, if any.
Someone funded the original application, and according to the very suspect terms of The Fund, then it covers All Legal Fees, Past, Present and Future. So how much have they given directly to Amaral to cover his past costs?
Not that I care about that either.
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Post  bb1 on Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:33 pm

Oh, you mustn't ask awkward questions about the Scrounge Fund, Sabot, remember:

There is no legal obligation to indicate how these funds are used


I would LOVE to see the tabloids do a bit of investigating and tear this nonsense to shreds.

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