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Re: Russian jet crashes over Egypt

Post  bb1 on Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:42 pm

Having seen previous efforts from the State Department, they probably read it on twitter...

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Post  lily on Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:50 pm

That's as credible as the junk they have used before.  Just ask Poodle Blair.
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Post  bb1 on Wed Nov 04, 2015 11:06 pm

Washington and Westminster have done their reputations so much damage over the last decade or so, Lily. No-one with a grain of sense believes them - they may as well employ Comical Ali as a spokesman.

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Post  bb1 on Wed Nov 04, 2015 11:12 pm

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/04/africa/russian-plane-crash-egypt-sinai/index.html

The latest U.S. intelligence suggests that the plane crash was most likely caused by a bomb on the plane planted by ISIS or an affiliate, according to a U.S. official familiar with the matter.

"There is a definite feeling it was an explosive device planted in luggage or somewhere on the plane," the official said, stressing that no formal conclusion had been reached by the U.S. intelligence community.



I think I'll wait for something a bit more solid than 'feelings'. Though if it was indeed a bomb, Washington had better pray that the Kremlin doesn't decide that he who smelt it, dealt it.

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Post  lily on Wed Nov 04, 2015 11:19 pm

You bet.  Pcorneater
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Post  bb1 on Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:23 am

MSM ramping up the hysteria yet again:

http://news.sky.com/story/1582118/significant-possibility-is-downed-egypt-jet

The Foreign Secretary has told Sky News there is a "significant possibility" an IS affiliate downed a Russian passenger plane in Egypt.

Last night, Downing Street said the jet "may well have been brought down by an explosive device", killing all 224 people on board.

A group linked to Islamic State which operates in the Sinai peninsula has claimed responsibility for the crash - vowing to eventually tell the world how it carried out the attack.

Speaking to Eamonn Holmes, Philip Hammond said: "We've looked at the whole information picture, including that claim, but of course lots of other bits of information as well, and concluded that there is a significant possibility."


Excuse me, but that is this bunch of tw@ts:



The ones that are sitting on a well-kept lawn with a singularly UN-scarey knife. The ones that have been roundly mocked here:

ttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-04/new-audio-video-isis-says-we-downed-russian-plane-threatens-putin-bowie-knife-front-


Unlike much of the West, Russia isn't run by a bunch of pussies that get scared of trigger words and micro-aggressions.

If the West has all this scary information, why isn't the West sharing it with the investigation, instead of stirring the pot, yet again?

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Post  bb1 on Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:26 am

https://www.rt.com/news/320225-plane-crash-russian-egypt/


10:20 GMT
There are 23 Russian flights among those arriving in Egypt’s Sharm el-Sheikh Airport, from where the A321 took off on October 31, Egypt’s aviation minister says.

10:11 GMT
Egypt’s aviation minister says there is no indication so far to suggest that an explosion caused the October 31 Russian plane crash in Sinai, Reuters reports.


Looks like Russians have failed to faint with terror because someone waved a knife around and called Putin a 'pig'.

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Post  bb1 on Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:10 pm

http://www.infowars.com/source-obama-fears-muslim-brotherhood-link-to-downing-of-russian-airliner/

SOURCE: OBAMA FEARS MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD LINK TO DOWNING OF RUSSIAN AIRLINER
Administration remains tight-lipped on cause of disaster


That'll be the Muslim Brotherhood Obama tried to foist on Egypt? The Muslim Brotherhood his own brother is involved with?

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Post  lily on Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:45 pm

Yes, them. Pcorneater
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Post  bb1 on Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:21 pm

WTF?

http://www.easyjet.com/en/help/sharm-el-sheikh


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Post  bb1 on Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:34 pm

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-05/cia-saudis-give-select-syrian-militants-weapons-capable-downing-commercial-airliners

Quote:

If that sounds insane to you, that’s because it is. Even as US intelligence (which we can only assume emanates from the CIA) indicates that IS Sinai likely brought down a Russian passenger jet with 224 people on board, the same CIA is working with the Saudis to supply “select rebels” with weapons capable of shooting down commercial airliners.

In order to make sure no one ends up blowing a 747 out of the sky, Washington will “retrofit” the weapons with “special” software that makes sure they can only be used in certain areas.


Which will take all of five minutes to UN-retrofit.

Washington's gone mad, there is no other explanation for any of this.

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Post  bb1 on Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:37 pm



https://youtu.be/dx6s4jO9xNY

John McCain: Arm Syrian Rebels to Shoot Down Russian Planes

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Post  lily on Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:14 pm

Idiot.
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Post  bb1 on Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:23 pm



Defiant: Despite the bombing only flights to Russia are running as normal - pictured here are Russian and Ukrainian passengers queuing at security

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3303948/Britain-demands-flights-Sharm-Britain-delayed.html#ixzz3qesjyLae
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Hmm. Interesting. Now, I know Russians are famous for laughing at things like health and safety, but I don't think even their airlines would be flying if there was a real risk.....

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Post  lily on Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:27 pm

You know, neither do I.
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Post  bb1 on Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:49 am

http://news.sky.com/story/1582643/russian-jet-was-blown-up-by-bomb-in-the-hold

British spies have uncovered evidence that suggests a bomb was smuggled into the hold of the Russian jet that crashed in Egypt, killing 224 people.

UK intelligence found evidence of the plot in intercepts picked up as part of a review of material carried out in the wake of the 31 October disaster, Sky News understands.

The discovery by GCHQ prompted Britain to dispatch experts to Sharm el Sheikh to review security at the airport - leading to the suspension of all flights to and from the resort.


'Intercepts'? Let's hope they don't mean twitter and farcebook yet again. And why is the UK NOT co-operating with the official investigation - you know, the one that has the physical evidence?

The US and UK had better hope that it wasn't a bomb. Or Russia might indeed suspect that he who smelt it, dealt it. And yes, Langley is more than capable of blowing up a civil airliner for its own twisted ends.

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Post  bb1 on Fri Nov 06, 2015 2:07 pm

https://www.rt.com/news/321055-russia-halt-flight-egypt/

The Russian security service advises halting all Russian flights to Egypt following an October 31 passenger plane crash in Sinai that killed all 224 people on board, FSB chief said on Friday.
"As long as we haven’t established the causes of the incident, I consider it appropriate to suspend the flights of Russian aircraft to Egypt. This primarily applies to the tourist flow,” FSB director Aleksandr Bortnikov told a meeting of the Russian Anti-Terror Committee on Friday.

Egypt has provided Russian investigators with access to all the fragments of the crashed plane as well as the baggage, he said. There is need for “absolute objectivity” and “confirmed data” to establish the causes of the disaster, he added.

“Swabs and scrapings from all fragments of the [crashed] plane, baggage and soil have been taken by Russian experts,” said the head of the Russian Emergencies Service, Vladimir Puchkov, during the meeting.

“I underline once more that the necessary samples have been taken from all the elements that can contain traces of explosives,” he added. “If there were explosives on the plane, we will be able to determine it.”

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Post  lily on Fri Nov 06, 2015 3:03 pm

Since they hold the evidence, will await their verdict.
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Post  bb1 on Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:09 pm

http://news.sky.com/story/1583031/egypt-rescue-flights-diverted-in-mid-air

Several "rescue flights" due to bring back stranded British tourists from Sharm el Sheikh have been diverted on their way to Egypt.

Sky News understands Thomas Cook, EasyJet and Thompson flights are among those that set off for Egypt only to divert midair.

It is believed some are now heading to land in Cyprus.

A Thomas Cook jet could be seen on an online flight tracker making a sudden turn over Albania. The company has yet to comment.


Don't ask me. Let's hope the 'refugees' currently squatting in Cyprus don't get any ideas about free rides...

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Post  lily on Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:23 pm

I think Brits would be up in arms about that (apart from the rose tinted glasses brigade) if they did?  

What a slap in the face if they boarded the migrants and not the stranded Brits.
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Post  bb1 on Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:59 pm



Shocked

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Post  bb1 on Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:04 pm

From peering at the print, this incident supposedly took place on August 23rd. Two things-

1. Why are we only hearing about it now?

2. We all know EXACTLY where the means to hit planes landing and taking off came from. Step forward Hillary - oh, and McCain yet again.

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Post  lily on Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:20 pm

mad mad mad mad mad
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Post  lily on Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:25 pm

I think this might be a pertinent part to that D.M. article:-

Sharm El Sheikh is at the centre of that, and they are very, very assertively trying to control the narrative around this, so they can try and minimise damage to their sector, and to try and ensure that they retain the support of a significant proportion of the Egyptian population, and deliver economic progress to them.’
Thomson did not wish to comment last night. The altitude of its plane and its geographical position at the time it encountered the rocket has not been revealed.
A government spokesman said: ‘We investigated the reported incident at the time and concluded that it was not a targeted attack and was likely to be connected to routine exercises being conducted by the Egyptian military in the area at the time.’


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Post  bb1 on Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:45 pm

Oh, FFS!

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