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Post  lily on Thu Nov 26, 2015 3:04 pm

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Post  bb1 on Thu Nov 26, 2015 4:59 pm

http://news.sky.com/story/1594986/pms-syria-fighters-figure-a-magical-number

David Cameron has been challenged by one of his own MPs over whether there really are 70,000 Syrian fighters on the ground.

Making his case for Britain to join in airstrike against IS targets in Syria, the Prime Minister claimed there were 70,000 Syrian fighters not linked to extremist groups on the ground in the country.

In a letter to the Foreign Affairs Select Committee, Mr Cameron said: "Although the situation on the ground is complex, our assessment is that there are about 70,000 Syrian opposition fighters on the ground who do not belong to extremist groups."

However, the Conservative chairman of the Defence Select Committee Dr Julian Lewis has raised significant concerns about the number and tabled a question for the Prime Minister.

Dr Lewis told Sky News he did not know where the "magical" 70,000 figure had come from but stopped short of suggesting the 33-page document Mr Cameron submitted to the Foreign Affairs Select Committee had been "sexed up".

But he warned that MPs should not look back on this moment and realise Britain made a "big mistake" on the basis of misleading information.

Britain has been badly scarred by the decision to go to war in Iraq 2003 party on the basis of the so-called "dodgy dossier", which claimed Iraq had weapons of mass destruction that could be launched in 45 minutes - claims which were later proven false.

Dr Lewis said: "If you look at the analysis of seasoned correspondents, including journalists in the field ... who have written extensively on the nature of the opposition in Syria, the figures don't come anything near approaching 70,000 - or even half that number.

"And we had recently admissions from the Americans that the number of moderate fighters that they had successfully managed to train and integrate into the theatre was down in minute numbers and indeed single figures in some cases.

"So where are these magical 70,000 people and why have they been able to roll back ISIL Daesh? Is it that they are in the wrong place? Is it that they are fighting each other? Or is it in reality they are not altogether moderate and that there are a lot of jihadists amongst them?

"I think we really need to konw about this so that we don't look back on this moment as having made a big mistake on the basis of misleading information that was given not by the Prime Minister but to the Prime Minister."

Dr Lewis has tabled a question for the Prime Minister asking him to list the main groups comprising the 70,000 "moderate fighters" and showing the "estimated number of fighters in each main group" and a "political and religious description of each main group".

He said he expected a written reply from Mr Cameron within three working days.


At least there are still some sane people in Westminster.

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Post  bb1 on Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:05 pm

WikiLeaks ‏@wikileaks 6h6 hours ago
RELEASE: Saudi Cables II: 61315 more cables and cryptocraphic keys for every Saudi embassy https://wikileaks.org/saudi-cables/





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Post  bb1 on Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:52 pm

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-26/us-blames-afghanistan-hospital-massacre-malfunctioning-sensors-human-error

So, let's see if we can sort that out. The AC-130 was called in but was unable to get good on-the-ground intelligence because their e-mail was down (so we suppose that means that under normal circumstances, soldiers e-mail planes with instructions). Next, the plane dodged a "missile", which threw its targeting sensors off and so according to The Pentagon, this AC-130 was flying blind with faulty targeting sensors into a warzone. Next, the crew did its best to remember what the ground forces (and now the US says it was actually Afghan troops that called in the strike) said about the building's physical appearance on the way to finding "what they thought was the right target."

What? What a load of bullsh*t - who dreamed this up?

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Post  bb1 on Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:42 pm

Roman Kosarev ‏@Kosarev_RT 7h7 hours ago Krasnogorskij Rajon, Moskovskaja oblast'
Syrian army bring us launcher from rocket that hit our car. It's still hot @SargonHadaya




.....And the wording on the launcher is in English.

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Post  bb1 on Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:30 am

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-27/death-damascus-images-syrias-war-torn-capital

Western governments need to look at those photos and hang their heads in shame - if they were capable of such a thing.

We haven't been the good guys for a very long time.

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Post  bb1 on Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:18 pm

All about Cameron's imaginary 70,000 moderate head-choppers:

http://blogs.new.spectator.co.uk/2015/11/yes-there-are-70000-moderate-opposition-fighters-in-syria-heres-what-we-know-about-them/

The source of this fiction is none other than the head-chopping Kingdom of Saudia Arabia.

Here's an idea - let's stay out of the way and let the Russians, Iranians, and legitimate government of Syria deal with the scum.

And Obama MUST be stopped from giving them any more arms.

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Post  bb1 on Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:52 pm

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-29/former-cia-deputy-director-gives-stunning-reason-why-obama-has-not-attacked-isis-oil


Former CIA Deputy Director Gives A Stunning Reason Why Obama Has Not Attacked ISIS' Oil Infrastructure


But back to Obama's alleged decision that not polluting the environment is more important than halting the funding artery that keeps ISIS in business.

Morell continued "Prior to Paris, there seemed to be a judgment that … look, we don’t want to destroy these oil tankers because that’s infrastructure that’s going to be necessary to support the people when ISIS isn’t there anymore, and it’s going to create environmental damage. And we didn’t go after oil wells - actually hitting oil wells that ISIS controls because we didn’t want to do environmental damage and we didn’t want to destroy that infrastructure, right.”


Yeah, right. Some of the pondlife currently polluting Washington was getting a cut of the profits, more like.

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Post  lily on Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:34 pm

He's possibly jealous of Hilary's money......
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Post  bb1 on Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:15 pm

http://news.sky.com/story/1597471/al-qaeda-threatens-saudi-over-mass-executions

l Qaeda's wing in Yemen has vowed to attack Saudi Arabia over the kingdom's plans to kill some of its members in a mass execution.

Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) pledged on Twitter to carry out attacks in response to the executions.

"We swear to God, our blood will be shed before the blood of our captives, and their pure blood will not dry before we shed the blood of the soldiers of al Saud," the group said in a post on Tuesday.

"We will not enjoy life unless we get the necks of the al Saud rulers."


So, even AQ can have the occasional good idea....

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Post  lily on Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:09 pm

I must confess that I do agree with you.
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Post  bb1 on Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:31 pm

Slideshow of life in Syria before Washington decided it needed Freedumbed, just like Iraq and Libya:

http://sputniknews.com/photo/20151128/1030890966/syria-before-civil-war-photos.html



A Syrian model, center, displays a creation during a competition for Syrian fashion designers with 12 participants, in Damascus. October 6, 2009.
Fashion weeks, crowded markets, tourists, resorts, ancient architecture and even casinos — prewar Syria was a peaceful, hospitable and absolutely wonderful place. Sputnik guides you through Syria, a world lost in the ongoing bloody civil war. When will once bustling and lively Syria rise from the ashes?




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Post  bb1 on Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:29 pm

http://nypost.com/2015/12/11/300-isis-fighters-trapped-after-tactical-mistake/

“Daesh forces trying to stop our progress bombed the last bridge which connects the city center,” he said, referring to IS by its Arabic language acronym.

The lock’s destruction leaves some 300 IS fighters trapped in the center of the city, he added.

Col. Steven Warren, the spokesman for the US-led coalition in Baghdad, said the destruction of the bridge may prove to be a tactical mistake for IS.

“What they’ve also done now is they’ve really cut themselves off,” he said. “So the fighters left on the north side of the river can’t retreat and the fighters on the south side of the river can’t send reinforcements.”

Muhannad Haimour, the spokesman for the Anbar governor’s office, said he received reports from residents still inside Ramadi that IS was also destroying buildings and radio towers.

“We’ve seen this before; they tend to blow up not just bridges, but a lot of infrastructure inside the city,” Haimour said.


If they really have been dumb enough to trap themselves, I suggest Iraq gives the Russians a shout - they have an excellent record in dealing with totalitarian maniacs trapped in cauldrons.....

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Post  Pedro Silva on Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:32 pm

tactical mistake? so much technology and for what? for this type of mistakes.
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Post  bb1 on Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:59 pm

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-12/isis-releases-new-apocalyptic-video-depicting-final-battle-crusaders-syria

So you decide: slick propaganda piece produced by fanatical terrorists with delusions of religious grandeur and a misplaced belief that they are part and parcel of a prophecy foretold by a prophet, or just another attempt by "someone" to provide the impetus for boots on the ground and the excuse for a protracted troop presence in Syria.


Or both.

1. Propaganda for the half-witted cannon fodder.

2. Scheming by 'someone' not too far from Washington.

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Post  lily on Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:25 pm

A bit of both?
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Post  bb1 on Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:27 pm

I'd say so, Lily. Fantastic production standards these ISIS videos have! And they manage to churn them out without too much difficulty...

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Post  lily on Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:36 pm

They do.  It's almost as though they have a lot of help......
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Post  bb1 on Tue Dec 15, 2015 8:39 pm

Oh my......

https://www.rt.com/news/326014-putin-kerry-lavrov-talks/

“We see Syria fundamentally very similarly,” Kerry said, adding that the two nations have been “honest with differences,” but in general agree that the crisis in the Middle Eastern country “requires political process.”

“Russia and US agree [that] you can’t defeat them [IS terrorists] without deescalating fight in Syria,” the Secretary of State said, adding that both Moscow and Washington are “focused on political process” and that “Syrians will be making decisions on the future of Syria.”


More at link, including:

Ilya Petrenko @ilpetrenko_rt
#KerryinMoscow presser: Isolating Russia is not a policy in Washington - Kerry.


Has Kerry told Obama?

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Post  bb1 on Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:51 pm

http://news.sky.com/story/1607162/qatari-royals-kidnapped-while-hunting-in-iraq

Dozens of Qatari hunters - including members of the royal family - have been kidnapped by armed men in Iraq.

About 100 men in more than 50 trucks, mounted with machine guns, took at least 26 people from a camp near the Bassiyah area, close to the Saudi border, according to officials.

"All of those kidnapped are Qatari and a number of members of the ruling family in Qatar are among them," said Faleh al Zayadi, the governor of Muthanna province.

A Samawa police colonel told Reuters the hunters were being escorted by an Iraqi security detail but that it decided not to fight the large group of gunmen.

"We are talking about at least 100 gunmen armed with light and medium weapons who broke into the Qatari camp and abducted the hunters at around 3am local time on Wednesday," the police colonel, speaking on condition of anonymity, said.

Iraqi security forces have launched a wide-scale search for the group in the desert area where armed militia groups mainly predominate.
...etc.

I must confess, I will LMAO if they've been grabbed by one of the groups Qatar has been funding.

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Post  lily on Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:02 pm

I just might join you if that is true.......
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Post  bb1 on Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:19 pm

The story seems legit:

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/12/qatar-seeks-release-citizens-abducted-iraq-151216152646757.html

Qatar seeks release of citizens abducted in Iraq
Senior officials sent to "secure safety" of hunting party which had entered southern Iraq "with official permission"
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No news of who did the abducting, though.

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Post  lily on Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:38 pm

If it is the people they are funding then........!
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