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Post  bb1 on Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:03 pm

a work of literary nature.

Absolutely astounding that supposed learned judges can use the word 'literary' to describe Gonzo's rubbish. Hulk Hogan got over a hundred million bucks from Gawker for less damage than the harm the disgraced ex-cop has done.

And no-one would ever call Gawker 'literary'.

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Post  Lamplighter on Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:07 pm

.... not surprised because one of the judges ruled in favour of a previous appeal overturning a ban on the book.
I know virtually nothing of their law, but surely the judge referred to by Isable Duarte should have recused himself as having a vested interest in the case. LL
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Post  bb1 on Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:11 pm

It's Portugal, LL, normal legal rules don't apply.

Why Gonzo chunters on about his 'pride' and 'honour' is a mystery to many, as it's obvious he has neither quality.

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Post  bb1 on Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:57 pm

BTW, doesn't it strike his devoted fans as just the slightest bit odd that Gonzo STILL hasn't played his fabled Ace? Pcorneater

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Post  bb1 on Tue Apr 19, 2016 6:23 pm

Did anyone catch this bit of that bizarre verdict?


On the other hand, we cannot see how the right of the subjects of this appeal [Kate and Gerry McCann] to benefit, following their constitution as arguidos, from the guarantees of the penal process – including the right to a fair investigation and the right to freedom and safety – may be offended by the contents of a book which, in its essence, describes and interprets facts that are part of an inquiry whose contents have been published
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But it wasn't a 'fair' investigation....for starters, the lead investigator had just been made an arguido over his conduct in another missing child case. Gonzo admitted himself that he woke up on the morning of the 4th and decided the McCanns DONE IT - though he's never actually explained what it is the McCanns DONE.

The McCanns were lied to about non-existent 'DNA evidence'. Gonzo made them arguidos without evidence, knowing full well that the law was going to change in a couple of days and he wouldn't be able to get away with stunts like that.

He was booted off the case - yet the judges think that mess was a 'fair investigation'? No wonder Portuguese courts are a bad joke, internationally.

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Post  bb1 on Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:58 pm

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton 3h3 hours ago
Goncalo Amaral's lawyer says there is nothing to stop him re-publishing his book about the #mccann case


Are there actually people stupid enough to pay good money for a load of lies from a convicted perjurer? Pcorneater

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Post  bb1 on Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:07 pm

Jerry Lawton ‏@JerryLawton 3m3 minutes ago
Fears if ruling stands the legal cost finding against #mccann for 3 year hearing could drain Find Madeleine Fund and hamper search


The Gonzo fans won't care about that; today, they have demonstrated beyond any doubt that all they care about is their odious, perjuring idol. They don't give a flying one about Madeleine McCann, or any other child.

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Post  Pedro Silva on Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:41 pm

the behaviour of these three judges is: a farce.
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Post  lily on Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:48 pm

So what if his book can on on re-sale. Who would want to waste their money anyway - Gonc bimbos and bimbettes notwithstanding?
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Post  bb1 on Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:56 pm

Lily, I said long ago that it's almost a pity the vile thing hadn't been available in the UK. It, and Gonzo, would have been ripped to shreds and exposed long since, with only the terminally stupid and nasty believing a word that's in it.

Mind you, only the terminally stupid and nasty do anyway....

It's a badly-written, vicious, lie-filled potboiler, and is most certainly not 'literature'. It's a pity the UK media cannot find a way to expose it, and Gonzo, for what they truly are. We know it's crap, and nasty crap at that, but many don't, and imagine this is some great freedom of speech issue.

Portugal must be the only country in the Western world where dirty cops are allowed to tell outright lies about people, presenting them as statements of fact - even in the US, he'd be in trouble. Just look at Gawker and Hulk Hogan, and that wasn't nearly as bad as this.

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Post  lily on Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:02 pm

I completely agree with you, Bonny. It compounds the coward that he is to be honest.
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Post  bb1 on Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:07 pm

And Gonzo has the nerve to bleat about his non-existent 'honour' when he has repeatedly stated, as fact, that innocent people have committed grotesque, heinous crimes! That's a parody of genuine democracy -sadly, it looks as if Portugal still has a long way to go.

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Post  lily on Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:31 pm

Having read some posts on the Justice Forum, I see that some still do not know what Gonc has won and it is not libel?

It's his right to free speech innit?
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Post  bb1 on Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:33 pm

Oh, there are a couple of them there proving, yet again, that all the jokes about hater IQs being lower than their shoe size are absolutely true.. Pcorneater

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Post  bb1 on Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:47 pm

That headline is absolutely grotesque - it is a denial of every single rule which applies in normal, civilized democracies. Portugal, what on earth have you done?

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Post  lily on Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:57 pm

bb1 wrote:

If so, he will have really done it this time.....
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Post  bb1 on Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:45 am

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2016/04/portuguese-media-goncalo-amaral-to.html

Portuguese media: Gonçalo Amaral to countersue McCann couple

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Now is Gonçalo Amaral who wants to sue the McCanns

by Hugo Franco

The Former PJ inspector feels morally and financially harmed by the fact that his book about Maddie's disappearance was withdrawn from the market. The Lisbon Court of Appeals proved him right this Tuesday.

Gonçalo Amaral is going to counterattack after the Lisbon Court of Appeals ruled in his favour in the case against the McCanns. The judges considered that the former PJ Inspector does not have to pay 500,000 euro in damages and has the right to sell the book 'Maddie, The Truth of the Lie', as well as the documentary which was broadcast by TVI, thus overturning the decision of the Civil Court of Lisbon.

The Appeals Court believes that Gonçalo Amaral has exercised his right to opinion, and that he was not obliged to the duty of secrecy due to being retired.

In the book, the author argues that Maddie's parents were involved in the disappearance and concealment of the child's body, thus dismissing the abduction theory.

in Expresso, April 19, 2016


If anyone still wanted proof of how vicious Gonzo is, there it is - it's a bit as if Pinochet had sued the victims of his fascist regime for giving him a bad name.

Oh, and you can say anything you like about Gonzo, because according to his cult, 'free expression' is more important than anything else in Portugal.

The rule of law, the presumption of innocence, the duty of police officers to act professionally - none of this matters in Portugal. One can only assume the last vestiges of fascism are still hanging on by their fingertips.


JML (v. over) - Following this favourable outcome, Gonçalo Amaral will now sue the McCanns. Contacted by RTP, the couple's lawyer said she received instructions from her clients to appeal against the decision at the Supreme Court of Justice. In turn, Guerra e Paz editors, the book publishers, welcomed the precedence given to the right of freedom of expression and assured the book will return to the Portuguese bookshops within weeks.

Look, moron, if Gonzo is allowed to conduct a vendetta and call it 'freedom of expression', then others are allowed to tell the truth about Gonzo - you don't get to pick and choose your 'freedom of expression'.

This is actually worse than Germany and the business with the comedian and Turkish jokes, this is a disgraced ex-cop being given official permission via the courts to carry on a vendetta against innocent people he has already abused, tried to frame, lied to, falsely accused of heinous crimes, etc.

Shame on Portugal.

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Post  bb1 on Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:01 am

PS - it would be interesting to read more about these three judges, because it appears right now that they are all in the Portuguese Old Boys' Club. Bizarrely, one of them had even ruled against the McCann family previously. Only in Portugal! Rolling Eyes

There appears to be a clear difference between younger, more modern judges and the Old Boys. Not accusing, just pointing out - maybe the ECHR should be taking a closer look at Portugal, as it produces some bizarre 'verdicts' which are NOT in line with 21st century Europe.

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Post  bb1 on Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:13 am

http://www.stopthemyths.info/viewtopic.php?f=115&t=8475


Can someone please explain how ...
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...in the Portuguese legal system someone's right to comment trumps others rights not to be libelled while exercising that right to comment?


A question to which there is no sensible answer, beyond, It's Portugal, normal rules don't apply. Their courts haven't joined the 21st century yet.

BTW, if anyone can say what they like about other people, how come ordinary Portuguese people, ex-pats, etc., get hauled into court there for insulting petty local officials?

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Post  bb1 on Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:34 am

http://www.stopthemyths.info/viewtopic.php?f=115&t=8475

He could have saved himself all this bother if he had Filed it under Fiction.......

Quite; no-one pays attention to the other money-grubbing potboilers churned out by dirty ex-cops like Cristovao - oh, except the hounders, who serialised the rubbish, and the thicko haters that still parrot the 'six corpses' garbage that Cristovao invented.

Gonzo presented his money-grubbing potboiler as 'fact' when it is anything but. Large sections of it are outright lies.

For a Portuguese court to punish Gonzo's victims and reward him is beyond perverse. Still, we're well-used to perverse 'verdicts' from Portuguese courts, that don't seem to know they are in Europe, in the 21st century.

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Post  bb1 on Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:37 am


James O'Brian doing phone in - Do you want to read his book?
Post mouse Today

Just a to let the forum know that J O'Brian is doing a phone in - mentioned it on newsthread but didn't want anyone to miss it - you can get the listen again possibly from a link on their website - I would have thought.


Hounders sending out orders to hater trolls who will then pretend to be 'members of the public'.

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Post  bb1 on Wed Apr 20, 2016 11:06 am

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/7090166/Ex-police-chief-who-claimed-McCanns-covered-up-Maddies-death-by-faking-disappearance-to-sue-couple.html

Ex-police chief who claims McCanns covered up Maddie's death by faking her disappearance 'to sue' couple

MWAHAHAHA, Go for it, Gonzo! It will give the UK tabloids a perfect reason to splatter the truth about the dirty cop all over special pullouts.

Remember, UK journos know ALL about the Golden Bullets tape, and all Gonzo's other dirty little secrets his fan club want kept under the carpet.

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Post  Sabot on Wed Apr 20, 2016 11:14 am

Is he daft enough to risk it?
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