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GERMAN POLICE IN SHOOTOUT WITH SO-CALLED "REICH CITIZEN"

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GERMAN POLICE IN SHOOTOUT WITH SO-CALLED "REICH CITIZEN"

Post  Lamplighter on Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:26 pm

Germany: 3 wounded in shootout with anti-govt extremists
August 25, 2016
BERLIN (AP) — Three people have been wounded in an armed standoff in eastern Germany between police and members of a group that denies the legitimacy of the modern German state. Police spokeswoman Ulrike Diener says the shootout happened while some 100 officers tried to enforce an eviction order Thursday against a 41-year-old "Reich citizen" in Reuden, about 20 kilometers south of Leipzig.

Members of the Reich Citizens' Movement refuse to acknowledge the authority of the post-war Federal Republic of Germany and instead believe they are citizens of the German Reich. They have been compared to the U.S. sovereign citizen movement.

Diener said the 41-year-old was shot and seriously wounded. One officer received a minor neck injury, while another was bitten. German media identified the evictee as former "Mr. Germany" Adrian Ursache.

To explain, these are not neo-nazis, though some of the KRRs do have tenuous links to nazis groups; they hark back more to the pre-Hitler Weimat Republic and the Prussian Empire which was dismantled at the end of WW1.    LL
Reichsbürgerbewegung ("Reich Citizens' Movement") is a label for multiple groups and individuals in Germany and elsewhere who assert that the German Reich (or, occasionally, Prussia) continues to exist not in the shape of the present-day Federal Republic of Germany, but in its pre-World War II borders, and that it is governed by a Kommissarische Reichsregierung (KRR, Provisional Imperial Government), or Exilregierung ("government in exile").  There are a number of competing KRRs, each claiming to govern all of Germany.  It can be compared to the Sovereign citizen movement in the USA and Canada.
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Post  bb1 on Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:33 pm

Yes, that's all that's needed, nutters who still support the Kaiser. I confess, that particular group of loonies is a new one on me.

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Post  Lamplighter on Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:47 pm

bb1 wrote:Yes, that's all that's needed, nutters who still support the Kaiser. I confess, that particular group of loonies is a new one on me.
They don't actually support the Kaiser, they just want the status quo restored. They prefer to support a new Weimar Republic. They are, in the main, fairly harmless, no religious themes involved, just a love of what was and is long gone. They have no representation in the Bundestag nor in the country, just considered nuts who live in the past. LL
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Post  bb1 on Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:54 pm

Ah, thanks, LL. Perhaps they could try forming a re-enactment society to let off steam, instead of getting into brawls with the police?

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