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Post  bb1 on Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:39 pm

YouTube videos with lunatic conspiracy theories against the McCann’s have sadly been available on the website for years. It’s not just Amaral but all the anti’s spouting their nonsense.

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

Never mind, the hate squad will be kept pointlessly occupied today, hatespamming Comments sections with all their usual bollox.

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Post  lily on Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:49 pm

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl
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Post  bb1 on Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:30 pm

The Supreme Court is Portugal's highest court but has no criminal authority. Judges added their job was not to decide if the McCanns bore any criminal responsibility over Maddie's disappearance.
And they said it would be wrong to draw any inferences about the couple's guilt or innocence from their ruling
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So, why did the Old Boys overstep the mark by doing precisely that? Getting scared by the sh*tstorm they've caused?

And unlike the Gonzo-worshippers, I see nothing to jump up and down about because Ms Duarte won't be making any public statements.

The hate squad, currently running round with its collective hair on fire, would do well to heed the words of one D. Trump about the wisdom of NOT telling the entire world about your plans. Pcorneater

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Post  bb1 on Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:47 am

Prominent members of the hate squad putting on a particularly revolting display this morning, dribbling on their keyboards with excitement because the Mail used the word 'death' in a McCann story.

Ever hear of sloppy reporting? Clickbait to get hits and reactions to keep advertisers happy? Fake News? No? All this seems to have passed them by in their eagerness to hurt Madeleine McCann and her family.

Too busy with their dribbling and one-handed typing, no doubt.

PS - the dribblers best not claim that they don't hate Madeleine just as much as they hate anyone with the surname 'McCann' - including the twins. Their every dribbled syllable proves they hate her, too.

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Post  lily on Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:56 pm

I don't think we could expect anything approaching reason from them?

As an aside, only yesterday I got fed up with counting how many errors' the Mail had made in only one story. Then I saw it was fairly consistent with other ones. I think they must be under pressure to get too many stories out?
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Post  bb1 on Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:01 pm

The Mail can be appallingly sloppy, Lily, which is a great pity.

Its photojournalism is world class - but the captions! They tend to read as if they were written by a rather backward native of...I don't know, Ulan Bator?...who speaks English as a fifth language.

Still, I don't suppose the Mail proprietors greatly care, as its just about the world's biggest news site.

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Post  Sabot on Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:39 pm


The Commenters on The Mail aren't particularly complimentary. But it is the very best News Site, even if they do print a pile of carp most of the time.
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Post  bb1 on Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:45 pm

Oh, none of the media cares about the hatespam, Sabot, they know the word to ATTACK! always goes round the hate sites as soon as the name 'McCann' appears in a story.

But - comments mean clicks means advertising revenue. Pcorneater

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Post  Sabot on Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:04 pm

bb1 wrote:Oh, none of the media cares about the hatespam, Sabot, they know the word to ATTACK! always goes round the hate sites as soon as the name 'McCann' appears in a story.

But - comments mean clicks means advertising revenue. Pcorneater

I can honestly say that I have never bought anything advertised by The Mail, or any other newspaper. But it is my choice of Site because it is good for getting what is going on.
You just have to decide for yourself if it is true or not.
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Post  bb1 on Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:35 am

The couple's fight-back was laid out in a nine-page complaint revealed today, which was lodged with the Supreme Court last Friday in a bid to invalidate its ruling rejecting the McCanns' libel appeal against Amaral and the makers of a TV documentary based on his book.
The document, drafted by the McCanns' Portuguese lawyer Isabel Duarte and and her colleague Ricardo Correia, says: 'The appellants understand the archiving of the case took place because during the inquiry, sufficient evidence had been collected to show the 'arguidos' had not committed any crime.'
They said the removal of the McCanns' 'arguido' status had legally-binding connotations and claimed the Supreme Court judges' argument it could be easily altered 'lacked foundation.'
Accusing them of acting 'frivolously' and contradicting themselves with their statements about the reasons for the 2008 probe archive, they added: 'It cannot be stated that it is not acceptable that the archiving of the case is considered the equivalent to proof of innocence.'

Mrs Duarte confirmed at the weekend the McCanns had lodged a formal complaint against the latest court ruling, although she declined to go into detail about why and how they were fighting it.


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The Gonzo-worshipping hate squad won't be able to understand that, as they are all incapable of grasping concepts which are the very foundation of human rights in 21st century Western democracies.

The Gonzo-worshipping hate squad would all be far more at home with some remote, ignorant, superstitious tribe, where the witch doctor decides guilt by sniffing people, or by the colour of their hair, or by what is revealed by goat entrails.

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Post  bb1 on Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:41 am

http://stopthemyths.info/viewtopic.php?f=115&p=326318#p326318

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So even though this was a civil case the judge still overstepped his rights in saying they were not innocent as they were not on trial and therefore did not have a right to present a defence and therefore they were not given a fair trial. So we have the removal of presumption of innocence and/or the removal of the right to a fair trial. both matters for the european and EU courts imo.


Precisely.

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But the Supreme Court just said that no evidence of guilt ( despite the police looking for such evidence) was not the same as evidence of innocence and that the McCanns were some how supposed to prove their innocence beyond the fact the Portuguese officially stated there was no evidence of guilt and the uk police stated that they were not involved at all. Exactly how you do that when you do not have a court system that proves innocence is beyond me.


IMO, those 'judges' blundered very badly. They would probably have got away with some bullsh*t about Amoral's Free Speach, but instead mouthed off about matters way beyond their remit.

Sounding as if they'd got their information from Hounder Research while they were at it, repeating long-discredited bollox.

They have brought the entire Portuguese legal system into disrepute, IMO - not that it needed much help with that.

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Post  bb1 on Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:31 pm

xxxxhttp://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7949.165

From the euphoria at the news of the supreme court judgement to the initial confirmation of just about every sceptic's heartfelt prejudice on publication of the judgement ... then the dawning realisation that the learned Judges in their wisdom had left a yawning open goal which is quite indefensible.

Just as Goncalo Amaral could have written a different book which would not have led to this juncture in the first place, the learned judges in their defence of his honour could have delivered their verdict in more measured tones leaving far less opportunity for their decision to be appealed.

At the root of it all is Madeleine McCann who some in the Portuguese establishment endeavour with every sinew of their being to have believed of as dead without a shred of anything to support their assertion.

From that insistence stems the real mystery.


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Indeed; the Portuguese Establishment really cannot complain if the bizarre actions of these 'judges' causes onlookers to ask questions and speculate as to their real motives.

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Post  bb1 on Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:48 pm

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/astonishing-new-madeleine-mccann-theory-9860820

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Madeline vanished from an apartment in Praia da Luz as her parents ate at a nearby restaurant. Detectives are said to be working on a theory that she was kidnapped by a European trafficking gang.

Kate and Gerry have never given up hope that she could still be alive – but this year will mark the milestone 10th anniversary without her.


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This is potentially Operation Grange’s final year of searching and they are concentrating solely on the fact she was sold by child traffickers – her parents’ and their first team of private investigators’ initial hunch – and could still be alive.

Makes a bit of a nonsense of Gonzo's ignorance and inventions, doesn't it? And leaves the Supreme Court 'judges', with their fondness for forum myths, looking pretty damned stupid. Maybe even suspicious? Not accusing, just saying.........

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Post  Sabot on Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:38 pm


La La, I simply don't know what to say anymore. I am so overwhelmed by the nastiness that I have lost the power to communicate. But there is probably no longer anything to say anyway.

There has never been any proof of the death of Madeleine, so all I can do is to go on hoping.
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Post  Sabot on Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:41 pm

La La, I simply don't know what to say anymore. I am so overwhelmed by the nastiness that I have lost the power to communicate. But there is probably no longer anything to say anyway.

There has never been any proof of the death of Madeleine, so all I can do is to go on hoping.
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Post  bb1 on Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:49 pm

All we know is that Madeleine McCann was removed from Apartment 5a, by person/s unknown, for reasons so far unknown.  And that her parents were not involved, beyond making a catastrophically wrong decision.

Thing is, all these forkers that bleat BUUTTTT TTHHHEYYY LLLEFFFTT TTTTHEM ALLLONNNE ad nauseum are actually admitting that they know perfectly well that the poor child was abducted, but pitchforking and abusing her parents and the wider McCann family is actually more important to them than finding the child they pretend to care so much about.

I've got to the point where I am not even interested in their rehashed bollox about the wonderwoofs, death miasma, non-existent 'blood splatter' and all the other garbage the haters so delight in repeating to each other. The real police know it's utter nonsense, and that is what counts, not the raving of a shower of pitchforking, conspiraloon bigots.

I have a suspicion their adored Gonzo is heading for one almighty fall; as ever, time will tell.

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Post  lily on Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:33 pm

I am NOT stating as fact but just thinking out loud.....what if the kidnappers were a ring known to the judicial departments......
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Post  Sabot on Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:40 pm

lily wrote:I am NOT stating as fact but just thinking out loud.....what if the kidnappers were a ring known to the judicial departments......

I have already been there.
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Post  bb1 on Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:44 pm

So have a growing number of people.

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Post  lily on Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:03 pm

With all the back lash they have faced from judicial departments, everywhere they have looked, it does sound like the ring is in Amoral's back yard.
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Post  bb1 on Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:44 pm

Something is well amiss in Portugal over this matter, Lily. What exactly, I don't know, but it's impossible not to smell some pretty big rats.

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Post  bb1 on Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:42 am

https://www.publico.pt/2017/02/21/sociedade/noticia/supremo-rejeita-pedido-de-libertacao-da-bolseira-maria-de-lurdes-1762868


The Supreme Court last week rejected the petition for habeas corpus by Maria de Lurdes Rodrigues, a grantee who is serving three years in prison for crimes of defamation and libel against judges and magistrates.

The petition for  habeas corpus , sent by four members of the Madeira Legislative Assembly at the beginning of February, stated that "the penalty imposed is totally out of step with the seriousness of the crimes attributed to him*** and of which he was accused and that his arrest results from A judicial error that translates into a violation of human rights ".

In a decision signed on February 15, the judges understood that "the unlawfulness of the imprisonment is not verified" and decided "to dismiss, as unfounded, the writ of habeas corpus requested by the citizens of the Autonomous Region of Madeira ... in favor of Maria of Lurdes Lopes Rodrigues ".

The case goes back to 1996, when Maria de Lourdes felt wronged for not having been awarded a scholarship by the Ministry of Culture. After challenging the scholarship process, the investigator challenged the actions of the judges involved in the proceedings, in a way that was considered insulting.

On 29 September 2016, after a lengthy appeal and rejection of the psychiatric treatment measure proposed to suspend the sentence, the grantee was detained and taken to the Tires Prison to serve the three-year sentence of Imprisonment for crimes of defamation and libel against judges and magistrates.

Raquel Coelho, a member of the Portuguese Labor Party in the Legislative Assembly of Madeira and one of the applicants for  habeas corpus , was not surprised by the court's decision on this specific request, despite disagreeing with the view of the judges on the legality of the case. "We consider that her arrest violates the Constitution," he said in statements to the public.

The regional deputy emphasizes that the request was filed as "the only option" to "try to humanize the Portuguese justice", considering the sentence of disproportionate arrest - it is one of the few people sentenced to serve an effective prison sentence for minor crimes - And that "it makes little sense for a person in these circumstances to be arrested for criticizing a judge."

Without confirming whether there will be scope for further legal action, Raquel Coelho guarantees that the petition's subscribers will continue to put public pressure to ensure that the case is not forgotten.



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My God, what barbarism! The poor woman!

More graduates of the Roland Freisler University - or perhaps the 'judges' were inspired by the Soviet Union under Stalin?

Absolutely astounding that this gross abuse of power could be happening in a 21st century European nation that claims to be a democracy.

**** The victim is a woman; the mistranslation is due to the vagaries of the Portuguese language.

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Best not let any Portuguese 'judges' see that; they jail women for three years if their fee-fees are hurt, poor little snowflakes.

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Post  lily on Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:33 pm

That would be a complete disgrace for a third world country.
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Post  bb1 on Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:35 pm

It's astounding, but seems to be accepted in 'democratic' Portugal. The jails in the US and UK would be overflowing if everyone who pointed out that the law is an ass, and so are some judges, was sent to prison.

Its a totalitarian Statist attitude, IMO. The judges are not public servants, they are agents of the State, so being rude about them is insulting the State. And probably insults their so-called 'honour', too.

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