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Post  Lamplighter on Thu Jun 29, 2017 1:16 pm

UK lawmakers set for key vote on minority government's plans.

British lawmakers are set to vote on whether to approve the Conservative government's plans for a Brexit-dominated parliamentary session, in a test of Prime Minister Theresa May's shaky minority administration.

Thursday's vote comes after debate on last week's Queen's Speech, which set out the government's proposed legislation for the next two years.

The slimmed-down agenda jettisoned several promises made by the party before the June 8 election, after voters stripped May's Conservatives of their majority in Parliament.

The main opposition Labour Party is seeking to disrupt May's plans with amendments that would reverse Conservative policies on Brexit and spending cuts.

But the government is likely to get its way thanks to Northern Ireland's Democratic Unionist Party, whose 10 lawmakers have agreed to support the Conservatives on key votes.
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Post  bb1 on Thu Jun 29, 2017 1:25 pm

Mrs May should shortly be able to breathe a sigh of relief for a few months, then.

And Holyrood has just closed for the summer - I wouldn't count on Sturgeon being FM when it sits again. It's become traditional for MSPs to come together in a BBQ on the last day, but today's scene rather sums the whole thing up...



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Confirmed: Corbyn will whip Labour MPs to ABSTAIN on Queen's Speech amendment calling for UK to stay in single market. Rebellion time again


It's astounding that his adoring fans somehow failed to notice that Corbyn is in FAVOUR of Brexit. I am going to LMAO if Labour Remainers rebel, and tear Labour apart. Again.

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Corbyn spokesman says Brexit is "settled" question. "The decision was taken last year by the British public to take Britain out of the EU."


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Post  Lamplighter on Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:25 pm

Breakingnews Breakingnews
QUEEN'S SPEECH VOTE:  Government defeat Labour over austerity amendment by 26 votes.   LL    smile    yaydance

Government win Brexit amendment 332 to 101.   LL   wave wave


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Post  bb1 on Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:27 pm

Spooky, just reading that on Sky, LL:



So, what happened? Labour MPs couldn't be bothered coming out of the bar? Alas, poor Jezza! rofl rofl rofl


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Post  Lamplighter on Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:35 pm

See my addition, Brexit amendment totally quashed.   LL

Queen's Speech passed by a majority of 14 votes.     Way to go!!    Eat your commie heart out, corbyn!!!!      LL    Hahau Hahau
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Post  bb1 on Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:16 pm

And a stonking majority for Brexit:

Government win Brexit amendment 332 to 101

Watch the Labour party tear itself apart now. After all his rabble-rousing last week, after all the demands for Mrs May to step down and chuck him the keys to No 10 - Corbyn's still a LOSER. rofl rofl rofl

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Post  bb1 on Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:20 pm

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Just after the election Jeremy Corbyn vowed to vote down the Queen's Speech & topple Theresa May. Today he failed. Will he now resign?


Not a chance. rofl


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Post  Lamplighter on Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:24 pm

bb1 wrote:Estella Joyce  
Err pardon?      LL
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Post  bb1 on Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:27 pm

See edit, LL. Twitter does that sometimes, if there are symbols in with the text, for some reason nothing after the symbol gets picked up.

I have NO idea why - but you don't know it's happened until you see you've just posted nonsense. rofl

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Post  bb1 on Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:29 pm

More hilarity:

https://order-order.com/2017/06/29/queens-speech-gets-lily-allens-goat/

A couple of weeks ago Lily Allen made this promise:




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Post  bb1 on Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:36 pm

And Corbyn begins purging Labour types who, against his orders, voted against Brexit:


https://order-order.com/2017/06/29/corbyn-sacks-saboteurs/

Shadow minister Daniel Zeichner has resigned from the frontbench and Corbyn has sacked rebels Catherine West, Rupa Huq, Gareth Thomas, Andy Slaughter and Ruth Cadbury. Jezza showing strong leadership of the opposition against opponents of the government and saboteurs of Brexit. Another Labour reshuffle coming…


Rather shows how THICK the Corbyn fan club is, that they failed to notice he was supporting Leave....

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-sacks-fires-labour-ministers-brexit-rebels-single-market-vote-chukka-umunna-a7815496.html

Jeremy Corbyn has sacked several members of his frontbench team after a party split in the Commons about how to oppose the Government on Brexit.

Three shadow ministers were sacked and at least one more resigned after they joined a total of 49 MPs who supported a rebel amendment to the Queen's Speech calling for Britain to stay in the single market and customs union.

Catherine West, Ruth Cadbury and Andy Slaughter were sacked from the front bench. Another MP, Daniel Zeichner announced this evening that he resigned ahead of the vote.


The motion of regret, proposed by Chuka Umunna, also says Britain should not leave the EU if Theresa May fails to reach a deal with the European Union.

The amendment, which was backed by 101 MPs in total after additional support from the Lib Dems, Greens, SNP, and Plaid Cymru, is at odds with the stance on Brexit in Labour's manifesto.
...etc.

That'll be the bit of the manifesto all his adoring fans at Glastonbury somehow failed to read? And now, after all the big talk about Steptoe being the 'rightful PM' - despite losing by nearly 60 seats - Labour is going to tear itself apart.

More popcorn! Pcorneater

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Thank you, Pedro. Unless something totally unforseen happens, it looks like Mrs May is home and dry for the next two years, while Labour fights amongst themselves.

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Jezza's Trots are rioting tomorrow:




They haven't taken losing awfully well....

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I can only assume that these idiots currently wailing about being 'betrayed' by Corbyn somehow failed to read his manifesto.

Or grasp that he's been anti-EU for a long time, due to it being a neo-con tool of the globalist elite, etc....

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Absurd that @jeremycorbyn rode on a wave of youthful enthusiasm at #GE17 and now he's trashing their dreams by embracing a hard Brexit.


Maybe the stupid sheep should have spent less time 'dreaming' and singing stupid songs to Steptoe, and more time reading his manifesto? Pcorneater

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Post  Lamplighter on Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:53 pm

Revealed: Jeremy Corbyn plotting power grab to seize control of Labour machine.
Joe Murphy, Kate Proctor. Evening Standard 30 June 2017

Jeremy Corbyn is preparing a major power grab to seize full control over the Labour Party machine in the wake of the general election, the Evening Standard can reveal.

Major changes to the party rulebook are to be put to a conference vote this autumn, offering more seats on the ruling National Executive Committee to constituency Labour Party (CLP) branches.

Another vote is expected on changes to the leadership rules that would allow grassroots members and trade unions to put a Left-winger’s name on the ballot paper in future — abolishing the effective veto held by Labour MPs at Westminster.

Officially, the moves will be driven by activists submitting motions to party conference rather than by the leadership. But shadow cabinet members close to the Labour leader have confirmed to the Standard that he favours them. The disclosure comes a day after Mr Corbyn sacked three frontbenchers who took part in a revolt of 50 Labour MPs against a “hard Brexit”. The dismissals signalled a tougher line against infighting and open dissent in the wake of his better-than-expected general election success.

One of those fired, former shadow housing minister Andy Slaughter, accepted the decision this morning. “I voted against the whip and was sacked, which was entirely appropriate,” he said. “That’s the norm.”

Hammersmith MP Mr Slaughter was among rebels who before the election escaped without punishment for voting against triggering Article 50 to leave the EU. But the post-election approach was stricter, he said.

“There was a slightly different atmosphere before the election and so people were given a bit more leeway. That was the exception — this is the rule.”

Mr Corbyn is planning a summer of intense campaigning to take advantage of his increased popularity, which saw him feted by a 150,000-strong crowd at the Glastonbury Festival on Saturday. Tomorrow he will kick it off by marching into Tory marginal Hastings and Rye, where Home Secretary Amber Rudd has a majority of just 346.

Next weekend he travel to Labour’s traditional heartlands, attending the Durham Miners’s Gala, before visiting the annual Tolpuddle Martyrs festival in Dorset a week later.

But the test of his enhanced authority will come at party conference when the new rules are expected to be put to a vote. They include:

Creating extra seats on the 35-member National Executive for grassroots representatives. At present, only six places are reserved for CLP delegates, compared with 12 for trade unionists, five for frontbenchers at Westminster, and three for MPs or MEPs. The change would give the Left, which is strongest at activist level, more influence and enable Mr Corbyn to win key votes.

Allowing CLPs, trade unions and affiliated organisations to nominate candidates in a future leadership contest, ensuring a Left-winger can stand as Mr Corbyn’s successor. It would strip MPs at Westminster of an effective veto — which twice kept John McDonnell off the ballot. Under current rules, candidates need nominations from 15 per cent of MPs and MEPs to stand.

The changes will be highly controversial with MPs but an old ally of Mr Corbyn said his election success gave him a window to stamp his mark.

“Jeremy will never be stronger than he is today,” said the friend. “We need to put our energy into changing the leadership rules.”
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“Jeremy will never be stronger than he is today,” said the friend. “We need to put our energy into changing the leadership rules.”

Excellent! Nothing like a Stalinist power grab to guarantee you'll never actually get elected!

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/30/labour-supporters/

Labour split over Europe as Remain MPs say their constituents don’t realise Jeremy Corbyn backs hard Brexit

Jeremy Corbyn was facing an increasingly divided Labour party last night after Remain-supporting MPs warned they can't support his position on Brexit because their constituents do not support it.

MPs in remain-backing constituencies said they can't vote in favour of the leader's position on leaving the European Union, which is seen as increasingly hardline, for fear of losing their seats in another general election.

Their admission means the deep split is likely to widen in the coming weeks unless Labour can reconcile the two opposing viewpoints on its own benches and within its electorate.

It follows a rebellion by 49 Labour MPs over an amendment calling for the Government to retain access to the single market after Brexit which weakened Mr Corbyn's ability to oppose Theresa May's plans.

It was led by an organised group of remain-supporting Labour MPs, many of whom have already received letters and emails calling on them to support Liberal Democrat efforts to soften the UK's exit, sources told The Telegraph.

They warned of growing frustration and a determination to act as a backstop against dropping out of the single market, putting Labour MPs on a collision course with Mr Corbyn who has said the UK should leave the market.

The rift highlights a growing chasm within the party which is yet to reconcile the fact that it won swathes of seats in the general election with the backing of pro-remain constituents who do not support the party's official line.
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Astounding. One can only assume that all those people who voted Labour also failed to grasp that Corbyn's a terrorist-loving Trot.

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Momentum Activists Take Control Of Local Labour Parties Ahead of Brighton Conference.

Grassroots group quietly gaining ground in local CLPs.

The grassroots campaign group Momentum is building on Jeremy Corbyn’s general election “surge” by taking control of local parties ahead of the annual Labour conference, HuffPost UK can reveal.

In a move to entrench Corbyn’s vision and direction, the left-wing campaign has scored a string of notable victories in securing the crucial delegate numbers needed to shape conference decisions and votes.

As constituency Labour parties (CLPs) across the country hold their annual general meetings ahead of the Brighton conference in September, Momentum has been quietly building a powerbase as part of a bigger move to make MPs more in tune with the new members.

Some are backing plans to make it easier to deselect sitting MPs, others are focusing on rule changes to smooth the path for a leftwing successor to Corbyn and others still are mobilising to control party structure and disciplinary bodies.

The move comes as HuffPost UK has been told that trade unions are heading for a ‘compromise’ plan over the number of MPs needed for future leadership bids, lowering the threshold of nominations from the current 15% to 10% of the Parliamentary Labour Party (PLP).

Momentum is barely two years old, having been founded by veteran leftwinger Jon Lansman in the wake of Corbyn’s first leadership election in 2015.

But since the general election, its members have become much more active in their local party structures and are now seeking to get delegates to embed the “Corbyn revolution” both at this year’s and next year’s annual conference.

Delegates sent by local parties to the conference are key to securing rule changes, and operate through “card votes” that reflect their strength and those of trade unions.

The local delegates also vote on which issues are chosen for “priority ballots” on policy or topical motions and elect representatives on the 11-strong National Constitutional Committee (NCC) which decides party discipline cases like that of Ken Livingstone. More at link.

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Momentum is barely two years old, having been founded by veteran leftwinger Jon Lansman in the wake of Corbyn’s first leadership election in 2015.


Is that right, now? Sure Militant Tendency haven't just been lying low for a while? We're not all suffering from memory loss, unlike those stupid sheep at Gladstonbury.

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What, like sexing up dodgy dossiers to justify illegally invading and destroying a Middle East state? Causing hundreds of thousands of Iraqi deaths, hundreds of dead British soldiers, and the supposed 'suicide' of a scientist who tried to stop you?

Oh, and a hundred-fold increase in terrorism?

That sort of catastrophe?

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Momentum is barely two years old, having been founded by veteran leftwinger Jon Lansman in the wake of Corbyn’s first leadership election in 2015.


Is that right, now? Sure Militant Tendency haven't just been lying low for a while? We're not all suffering from memory loss, unlike those stupid sheep at Gladstonbury.
John Lansman was right hand man to Tony Benn who was described as "one of the few UK politicians to have become more left-wing after holding ministerial office".  
Wikipedia:  Benn's philosophy consisted of a form of syndicalism, state planning where necessary to ensure national competitiveness, greater democracy in the structures of the Labour Party and observance of Party Conference decisions. Alongside an alleged twelve Labour MPs, he spent twelve years affiliated with the Institute for Workers' Control, beginning in 1971 when he visited the Upper Clyde Shipyards, arguing in 1975 for the "labour movement to intensify its discussion about industrial democracy".

He was vilified by most of the press while his opponents implied and stated that a Benn-led Labour Government would implement a type of Eastern European socialism, with Edward Heath referring to Benn as "Commissar Benn" and others referring to Benn as a "Bollinger Bolshevik".   Despite this, Benn was overwhelmingly popular with Labour activists in the constituencies: a survey of delegates at the Labour Party Conference in 1978 found that by large margins they supported Benn for the leadership, as well as many Bennite policies.

He publicly supported Sinn Féin and the unification of Ireland, although in 2005 he suggested to Sinn Féin leaders that it abandon its long-standing policy of not taking seats at Westminster (abstentionism). Sinn Féin in turn argued that to do so would recognise Britain's claim over Northern Ireland, and the Sinn Féin constitution prevented its elected members from taking their seats in any British-created institution.

Benn also spoke at a Militant Tendency rally held in 1984, saying: "The labour movement is not engaged in a personalised battle against individual cabinet ministers, nor do we seek to win public support by arguing that the crisis could be ended by the election of a new and more humane team of ministers who are better qualified to administer capitalism. We are working for a majority labour government, elected on a socialist programme, as decided by conference."

Now why does this sound familiar?    Corbyn was a close friend of Benn's ....   LL
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