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Post  bb1 on Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:53 am

Sinn Féin in turn argued that to do so would recognise Britain's claim over Northern Ireland, and the Sinn Féin constitution prevented its elected members from taking their seats in any British-created institution.

Doesn't stop them taking all that lovely British money though, does it? Hypocrites. Rolling Eyes

I didn't think Militant Tendency would be far away, LL. Trouble is, all those sheep in the Corbyn cult either don't know about any of this, or simply ignore it as it doesn't fit their view of Steptoe as a kindly grandad type.

Remember, these are the same sheep that managed to ignore everything he has ever said about the EU, and somehow convinced themselves that Saint Jeremy was going to save them from Brexit.

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Post  bb1 on Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:55 am

Thread for Trot riot, sorry, I mean protest against....something or other:

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Post  bb1 on Sat Jul 01, 2017 6:52 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/01/jeremy-corbyn-to-speak-at-london-anti-austerity-march


Jeremy Corbyn said he was determined to force another election at an anti-austerity protest attended by thousands of people in central London.

After marching through Oxford Circus and Regents Street, the crowd gathered in a packed Parliament Square to hear the Labour leader and other politicians and union leaders speak.

Protesters carrying banners and placards, many of which focused on the Grenfell Tower disaster and cuts to public services, sang the now infamous “Oh Jeremy Corbyn” chant as they marched.

Corbyn told the crowds in Westminster: “We are the people, we are united and we are determined, we are not going to be divided or let austerity divide us. We are increasing in support and we are determined to force another election as soon as we can.”
...more babblings at link.

And how, pray tell, does Steptoe imagine he can do that? It's a bit more complicated than just promising his sheep Free Stuff.

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Post  Lamplighter on Sun Jul 02, 2017 8:24 am

Tories not in mood to oust wounded May — for now.

MPs conclude there is no alternative to the British PM but still want her to change.

LONDON — Theresa May’s nemesis, the former U.K. chancellor George Osborne, described her as a “dead woman walking” after last month’s general election. For now though, the prime minister looks to have won at least a stay of execution.

May is, in the words of one Tory MP, still among the “walking wounded,” having squandered the Conservative party’s majority in the snap election. But Conservative MPs say there is little desire to oust her — at the moment anyway.

May’s position was bolstered by Thursday’s House of Commons vote in favor of the queen’s speech, setting out the government’s legislative agenda for the next two years. The prime minister is also fortunate that there is no obvious successor in sight, meaning Tory plotters have to settle for the long game.

That does not mean Conservative MPs are thrilled with May’s leadership or the £1 billion deal she has struck with Northern Ireland’s Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) to support the government in key votes.

Tory MP Heidi Allen told the House of Commons she could “barely put into words my anger” at the deal and expressed her “distaste for the use of public funds [for Northern Ireland] to garner political control.”

But senior Tory MP Keith Simpson said Allen should “get real.” He said colleagues watching in the House of Commons tea room had viewed her speech as “totally out on a limb.”

“All political parties are coalitions at the end of the day,” he said, dismissing the idea that the more socially conservative DUP should be seen as “beyond the pale.”
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Post  bb1 on Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:00 am

IMO, away from the professional agitators in Labour and the SNP, what the public want is a year or two of peace and quiet, no more melodramas from ANY politicians, and most certainly no more referendums, elections, or anything else likely to cause even more division.

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Post  bb1 on Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:02 am

Aw, the kindly, gentle face of Jezza's new politics:

https://order-order.com/2017/07/01/theresa-mays-head-impaled-on-spike-at-corbyn-rally/

This charming lady carried a placard showing Theresa May’s head impaled on a bloodied spike. She claimed to be a Labour Party member from New Forest Gate. Corbyn described the protesters as “the movement that will win the next election”




Because nothing says #lovewins like heads on spikes. Rolling Eyes

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Post  Lamplighter on Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:17 am

German Helmet Kohl served his country under the Swastika and is buried under the EU flag. At least he was consistent.
This a comment from order-order and shows exactly why these gloops are such morons - Kohl was born in 1930 which make him all of 3 years old when Hitler came to power, 9 when the war started and 15 when it ended!!!! What a precocious lad he was and what a load of cr*p gets posted up on the net! LL Hahau Hahau
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Post  bb1 on Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:22 am

He was conscripted in the closing days of the war, LL:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmut_Kohl

At the age of ten, Kohl was obliged, like every child in Germany at the time, to join the Deutsches Jungvolk, a section of the Hitler Youth. Aged 15, on 20 April 1945, Kohl was sworn into the Hitler Youth by leader Artur Axmann at Berchtesgaden, just days before the end of the war, as membership was mandatory for all boys of his age.[7] Kohl was also drafted for military service in 1945; he was not involved in any combat, a fact he later referred to as the "mercy of late birth" (German: Gnade der späten Geburt).[8]


He was a very lucky young man, to survive in one piece.

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Post  Lamplighter on Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:36 am

I know all about the Hitler Youth, even Pope Benedict was forced to join it. You didn't join, your parents and family were regelated to just above untermensh. I have relatives who lived in Germany and joined to ensure the safety of their families; daughters were also forced to join the League of German Girls where they were groomed to marry young and produce Aryan children to rule the world. Not much anyone at 15 could do a few days before the Soviets arrived. LL
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Post  Lamplighter on Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:33 pm

Jeremy Corbyn: Conservatives and austerity are 'in retreat'.

The age of austerity has been replaced by an "age of imagination" in which "we will achieve that decency and social justice that we all crave", according to Jeremy Corbyn.

Addressing a crowd of thousands of anti-austerity protesters in Parliament Square in central London, the Labour leader claimed the Conservatives were on the back foot and his party was in the ascendancy.

"The Tories are in retreat, austerity is in retreat, the economic arguments of austerity are in retreat," he told the demonstrators, who had marched from BBC Broadcasting House in Portland Place.

"It's those of social justice, of unity, of people coming together to oppose racism and all those that would divide us, that are the ones that are moving forward.

"This is the age of imagination, this is the age in which we will achieve that decency and social justice that we all crave."

Mr Corbyn was speaking on Labour's first day of national campaigning since last month's shock election result, which saw Theresa May lose her Commons majority and Labour pick up 30 seats.

Earlier, he told a rally in Hastings, East Sussex, that austerity has been "selective, brutal, nasty and vile towards the poorest and most vulnerable".

Mr Corbyn hit out at the Conservatives for voting against lifting the cap on public sector pay, accusing the Government of hypocrisy.

A number of members of his shadow cabinet was due to visit Tory-held marginals across the country on Saturday to insist Labour is a "government in waiting".

Mr Corbyn told the crowd in Hastings: "You could draw a map of England and Wales and Scotland, you could mark out the poorest areas and you could overlay it with a map of those who have had the biggest cuts, and you know what? The biggest cuts would obliterate the vision of the poorest areas in this country."

He said local government had suffered particularly badly, seeing funding "grotesquely cut", and also focused on the issue of public sector pay.

"The same people who can't get on the screens quick enough to praise the emergency services whenever there's a disaster, then voted to freeze their pay for yet another year," he said in attack on the Government.

"Well I just hope people notice the double standards and the hypocrisy surrounding all of that."

Mr Corbyn said Labour was offering people "hope and opportunities" and investment in public services.

The Labour leader was speaking in Home Secretary Amber Rudd's constituency, which she managed to win with a majority of just 346 votes in the election.

He said the party had identified 73 constituencies in England, Wales and Scotland it can win.

Labour's deputy leader Tom Watson was to travel to Uxbridge and South Ruislip - the west London constituency held by Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson - as part of the day of campaigning.

Mr Johnson's majority was slashed at the election and subsequent research has suggested he too could be vulnerable should Labour surge at the next election.

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Mr Corbyn told the crowd in Hastings: "You could draw a map of England and Wales and Scotland, you could mark out the poorest areas and you could overlay it with a map of those who have had the biggest cuts, and you know what? The biggest cuts would obliterate the vision of the poorest areas in this country."


Something I've always wondered -

Do 'poorer areas' vote for Left-wing parties simply because they are poor?

Or are they poor because they vote for Left-wing parties?

Are businesses put off investing in these areas because they know there will be endless hassle from local 'activists'? And would rather go to areas that are more prosperous because the locals prefer earning money to political dogma?

It's a bit chicken and egg, but it's not as simple as Corbyn and co would like to pretend.

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Post  Lamplighter on Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:04 pm

I remember years ago a friend telling me his father, grandfather and uncles all worked in the mines usually from the age 15 to retirement or death. He was working class, proud of it and of being a card carrying Tory, in fact the whole family were Tories. He wouldn't give the time of day to the laborites, said they were liars as they didn't improve things for their constituents, they just encouraged them to hate everybody who had more than 5 pennies in their purse cos that made them rich and living off the hard working proleteriat. He would have hated Corbyn. LL


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Post  bb1 on Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:16 pm

they just encouraged them to hate everybody who had more than 5 pennies in their purse

That's it, in a nutshell, LL.

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Post  Lamplighter on Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:34 pm

On TV you can watch programs where people in rent arrears, multiple occupancies, cause deliberate damage to rented property etc but manage to have cars, huge TVs, mobile phones, PCs, tablets, and expect their landlords or creditors to be thousands of £ out of pocket. They expect benefits to be a right, not a necessity and don't give a flying f*ck where the money comes from just so long as it is free. LL
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Post  bb1 on Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:43 pm

I've seen them, LL, and personally, I would give them all five years' in jail for benefit fraud. Apart from anything else, they get people who genuinely need help tarred with the same brush.

They're not just stealing from taxpayers or landlords, they are doing terrible damage to those who really are in need.

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Post  bb1 on Sun Jul 02, 2017 4:22 pm

Just 24 days ago, Britain went to the polls in a free and fair Election. The outcome was unexpected, but it was clear. The Conservative Party secured 800,000 more votes and 55 more seats than the Labour Party. They then entered into an agreement with the Democratic Unionist Party – as they are constitutionally entitled – to ensure a formal majority for the Government and its business. And finally they sought, and secured, a parliamentary mandate for their legislative programme.

Every step in that process was done with due regard to democratic and constitutional practice and precedent. And it was opposed by a Labour Party so drunk on pathological righteousness that it feels justified in trying to propel itself into power on the shoulders of the mob, while trampling over the bodies of the Grenfell Tower dead.


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Just one of many reasons I despise Corbyn and his cronies.

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Post  bb1 on Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:51 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-jeremy-corbyn-conference-rule-changes-date-clp-nec-national-executive-committee-labour-first-a7817121.html

Labour’s right wing has launched a new plan to rein in Jeremy Corbyn’s power despite his growing standing within the party following the general election result, The Independent can reveal.

The battle plan, issued to activists just a week after Labour overturned Theresa May’s majority, would water down Mr Corbyn’s influence on the party’s powerful executive by drafting in extra members likely to be hostile to him.

The manoeuvre is the latest sign of the continuing guerrilla warfare taking place behind the scenes in Labour, with Mr Corbyn’s own supporters undertaking a counteroffensive to try and cement the left’s grip on the party.
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The comrades won't like that. Pcorneater


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Post  Lamplighter on Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:31 pm

Sit tight, Mrs May, wear a tin hat cos I think sommat's gonna explode!!!!  LL  Hide
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Post  bb1 on Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:49 pm

Well...she's come through a few weeks which would have tested the most hardened politician, so unless something else ghastly and unforseen happens, Mrs May will probably survive at least until a serious rival comes along. And no, that ain't Boris...

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Post  bb1 on Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:51 pm

Oh, and don't forget, the knives are out north of the border for Sturgeon, who has presided over a series of disastrous elections and has proven to be totally incompetent, under all the touchy-feely baby-kissing. That too will take a bit of pressure off Mrs May.

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Post  Lamplighter on Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:55 pm

Come and join me ....  LL    hug hug   rofl rofl
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A wise course of action when the world is going mad. Pcorneater

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Jeremy Corbyn’s mob rule will spark a Labour civil war following his rise from bewildered obscurity to political popstar.

Jezza is presiding over a foul-mouthed rabble who make violent threats against critics.

From the moment he was elected Labour leader, it always seemed a mistake to under-estimate Jeremy Corbyn. Once the Left has its hooks on power, as he had, nothing will persuade them to let go.

Admittedly, Jezza’s rise from bewildered obscurity to political popstar took us all by surprise. Even the Tories thought they were finished after losing their majority.


But it is just as big a mistake to over-state Labour’s chances of winning a general election as it was to under-rate them. Triumphalist Corbyn already seems to be turning boom into bust.

With the Tories floundering and Jezza miles ahead of Theresa May in popularity, that might sound delusional.

But the fair-minded British public will surely be repelled by the sight of vengeful Corbynistas wallowing in an orgy of self-proclaimed triumph.

Voters are observing a dark side to the allotment-digging beardie who insists on sharing his fish paste sandwiches with strangers.

Far from the “kinder, gentler” politics he once promised, Jezza is presiding over a foul-mouthed rabble who make violent threats against critics — including his own MPs.

The 13.5million who supported the Tories are routinely labelled as “scum”. Blatant lies, smears and fake news are standard tactics for his Momentum propagandists.

But stabbing threats and swastikas carved into election posters provide evidence of a dangerous new Nazi-style takeover of the Labour brand.

Decent Labour voters hate the foul-mouthed abuse levelled against moderate MPs by Corbyn’s swarming guard of Trots and Marxists.

Leftie Channel 4 News presenter Jon Snow made a terrible mistake by unprofessionally lending his voice to the Glastonbury chant of “F*** the Tories”.

He is now tainted by association with the mob — no better than rabble-rousing Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell who hijacked the Grenfell Tower tragedy to brand the Tories “murderers”.

The loony left are out of control, hysterically raising their fists against a democratically elected Tory government.

Senior Labour figures, dismayed by displays of thuggery, tell me they backed Corbyn this time because they thought he had no hope. But they will not vote Labour again if he looks like winning.

I wondered if their integrity would survive a choice between potential power and the sack. But the option is already history. The purge has begun.

Mild-mannered Jezza has emerged in his true colours — as a socialist tyrant. Anyone who stands in his way will be crushed.

Blairites like Yvette Cooper and Chuka Umunna have already been snubbed in Corbyn’s shadow cabinet reshuffle. Others resigned or were forced out.

The 49 rebels who defied the whip and voted for post-Brexit Britain to stay in the single market will pay with their political lives.

A change to party rules will give Corbynites power to de-select sitting MPs and replace them with candidates from the hard left.

New party chairman Ian Lavery warns nobody has a “divine right” to be a Labour MP.

Arch-leftie and rising star Seema Chandwani condemns moderates like Jess Phillips and Stephen Kinnock as “Judas” figures for opposing Jezza.

“After leaving us when the going got tough, stepping on our heads and pushing us deeper under water, you believe you have a right to be on this ship?” she writes on the Red Pepper website.

The declaration of civil war is a lifeline for the stricken Tories.

Moderates encouraged by Tony Blair are already plotting to form a new party, with ex-Foreign Secretary David Miliband returning from exile in America as its leader.

They are buoyed by the example of new French President Emmanuel Macron who created a political movement from scratch.

Super-rich backers like Harry Potter creator J K Rowling, a devoted Labour supporter, are being tapped for cash to set it up.

These are early days. But the Tories need to understand quickly that, despite inflicting this nation with political catastrophe at a pivotal moment in our history, all is not necessarily lost.

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Post  bb1 on Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:21 am

Well, it's taken less than three years for demagogue Sturgeon to be found out, it's just a pity Steptoe's Free Sh*t Army are incapable of grasping reality, but there's still a hard core like that here, too.

Far from the “kinder, gentler” politics he once promised, Jezza is presiding over a foul-mouthed rabble who make violent threats against critics — including his own MPs.

The 13.5million who supported the Tories are routinely labelled as “scum”. Blatant lies, smears and fake news are standard tactics for his Momentum propagandists.

But stabbing threats and swastikas carved into election posters provide evidence of a dangerous new Nazi-style takeover of the Labour brand.

Decent Labour voters hate the foul-mouthed abuse levelled against moderate MPs by Corbyn’s swarming guard of Trots and Marxists.


That's exactly how the cybernats behave, and Sturgeon has never once called them to heel. They think they're patriots, but they're just thugs.

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