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Post  bb1 on Tue May 02, 2017 8:02 am

http://news.sky.com/story/mccanns-fell-out-with-police-over-search-for-madeleine-10859915

McCanns 'fell out' with police over search for Madeleine
A Home Office report details the "turbulent relationship" between the McCanns and Portuguese and British law enforcement.

By Martin Brunt, Crime Correspondent

The parents of Madeleine McCann claimed they were treated badly by Portuguese police from the start of the investigation into her disappearance, according to a secret Home Office report.

They eventually fell out with UK authorities too and later did not share with police information gathered by their own private investigators.

The revelations are contained in a report ordered by the then Home Secretary Alan Johnson who wanted to know if it was worth getting Scotland Yard involved after Portuguese officers closed their first investigation.

The report said: "It is clear that from the beginning the McCanns felt there was a lack of clarity and communication on the part of the Portuguese police.

"Despite the involvement of British consular staff, they were, by their own accounts, left for long periods without any updates or communication with the investigators.

"They state they were taken to the police station on more than one occasion and then left for hours waiting to speak to someone who never materialised.

"They describe this situation as inhumane, with no real consideration for their emotional and physical wellbeing."
...more at link.


So, another news story gives the lie to Gonzo's endless babbling about POLITICAL INTERFERENCE. It becomes ever clearer that Gonzo's investigation was a mess right from the start.

Worth remembering that in most countries, because he had just been made an arguido himself, he would have automatically been suspended from duty.

Not put in charge of another missing child case.

The Portuguese state really does need to take legal action against that lying oxygen thief.

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Post  bb1 on Tue May 02, 2017 11:34 am

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/02/madeleine-mccanns-parents-claimed-portuguese-police-treated/


Madeleine McCann's parents claimed Portuguese police treated them 'inhumanely' from start, says leaked report

Yes. It's a pity Gonzo hadn't spent as much time trying to find Madeleine as he did trying to frame her parents, invent disgusting sh*t to pass on to his chums at CartofMuck - and on his three hour lunch breaks.

Imagine how you would feel if your child had been abducted and you found out that this apparition:



was the investigating officer? Gonzo looked more like one of the drug dealers in Miami Vice.

And to make things worse, you found out that he had just been made an ARGUIDO because of allegations concerning the torture of the mother of another child who had gone missing in the area?

And to top it all, he hadn't been suspended, as should have been automatic, but instead was supposed to find your missing child? It's a very good job the British Embassy people got to PDL as quickly as they did.

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Martin Brunt - my ten years of looking for Madeleine

Post  bb1 on Tue May 02, 2017 3:18 pm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/ten-years-looking-madeleine-mccann-case-has-dominated-life/

My ten years of looking for Madeleine: how the McCann case has dominated my life


I know so much about the story of Madeleine McCann, the heartbreakingly little girl who vanished into thin air.

In the ten years since she disappeared I’ve spoken to her parents, their friends, the heads of Scotland Yard and the Portuguese police, private investigators, Government ministers and diplomats, witnesses and suspects, the family’s supporters and their trolls.

In the resort where she went missing I’ve chatted for many hours with residents, expats, taxi drivers, waiters and bar owners. A lot of bar owners.

But what do I really know? What do I know about the only thing that matters, what happened to three-year-old Madeleine after her parents left her and her two-year-old twin siblings Sean and Amelie sleeping in their rented holiday apartment in Praia da Luz on a breezy, late Spring night 10 years ago on Wednesday?

The answer, of course, is nothing. There are theories galore and wild speculation, but for all the time and money spent by police, journalists and armchair detectives, nobody has unearthed the slightest proof to explain her fate. For crime reporters, as an unsolved case it stands alone.

There have been two Portuguese police investigations and Scotland Yard has spent more than £11 million since it began its own inquiry in 2011. In six years the British detectives identified 600 ‘potentially significant’ individuals, all of whom have been ruled out. They have one significant line of enquiry which may or may not provide an answer.

And that’s why I’m sitting here in an editing room, more baffled and fascinated by the story than I was 10 years ago, putting the final touches to a TV documentary that hopes to shed some light, at least on what’s happened since.

‘Madeleine.’ That’s all I have to say to colleagues, friends or family who ask me what I’m working on. I don’t even have to say her surname for them to understand what’s keeping me busy. By her first name, she is so well known as the little girl at the heart of an enduring mystery.

I’ve been back to Praia da Luz 20 times or more and have struck up friendships with several people. They greet me warmly enough, but they don’t like why I’m there. I don’t think there’s a word for the look on their faces, a mixture of smile and scowl.

In the absence of facts there’s a vacuum filled by speculation and opinion, more often than not tinged with a lack of sympathy for her parents. That is especially true in Portugal, where I’ve seldom met anyone who cannot get over the hurdle of Kate and Gerry McCann leaving their three asleep while they dined with friends across the holiday complex. Kate McCann has described tomorrow’s anniversary as ‘a horrible marker of time, stolen time’.

Nobody can beat up the parents for leaving the children more than the couple do themselves. Long ago they acknowledged they made a mistake, one they have to wake up to each morning.

Yet, the level of hostility the McCann family continues to attract, mainly on on social media, is dreadful - heaping more misery on their blighted lives. A recent posting on a Facebook page which is devoted to the theory that Madeleine’s body is buried in Praia da Luz carried an apparent photograph of her brother Sean, attributing to him a ‘comment’ in which he criticises his parents.

One of those behind the posting told me he had contacted Sean’s school in a bizarre attempt to enlist its help in a campaign to retrieve Madeleine’s body. I knew Scotland Yard was aware of the activity, but they appeared to have done nothing about it. I was told it was something they did not want to discuss with me.

Two months ago someone posted an apparent photograph of the family having lunch in a restaurant. While they were still eating, the picture was put on Twitter, followed by a map and directions to the restaurant along with many vile comments such as ‘Are the kids with them or are they also home alone?’ And ‘Shame they didn’t choke.’ One poster suggested spitting in their food, another wanted to pour beer over them.

As far as I know, none of the McCanns has ever been physically attacked, but I’ve learned as well as anyone the human impact social media activity can have.

Three years ago Leicestershire police were sent a dossier of the online anti-McCann hostility, which included death threats. After six months they decided to take no action against anyone.

I confronted one of the McCann critics, Brenda Leyland, a woman who had Tweeted many nasty comments. She invited me into her home for a chat, though she didn’t want to be interviewed formally. Four days later she took her own life.

In an interview for our documentary the former Home Secretary Alan Johnson said he couldn’t understand why police refused to investigate the McCann trolls.

The former head of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection centre (CEOP), Jim Gamble, described the thousands of online attacks as “a legacy of bile” that would always be there on the Internet to confront Madeleine’s younger twin brother and sister.

We reveal in the documentary details of a secret report Mr Johnson commissioned from CEOP in 2009 to explore the possibility of Scotland Yard getting involved. It led to the Metropolitan Police reviewing the case in 2011 and then launching their own full investigation two years later.

The document exposes the early failures of the first Portuguese investigation and the chaos added by many British agencies competing to help. They included the Association of Chief Police Officers, the National Policing Improvement Agency, the Serious Organised Crime Agency, the Crown Prosecution Service and others. It led to the Portuguese authorities accusing Britain of acting like “a colonial power.”

In turn, says the leaked report, it lead to growing distrust between the McCanns and both Portuguese and UK police. So much so, that when the McCanns later hired a series of private investigators, the couple refused to share the information that was gathered with either force.

We’ve also spoken to former detective Colin Sutton, who was in the running to head the Scotland Yard investigation before he retired. He says that a senior officer rang and warned him that if he took on the case he would not be able to do everything he wished. He interpreted that as a ban on any formal interview with the McCanns.

Mr Sutton says that if Scotland Yard really did intend to “re-analyse and re-assess everything, accept nothing”, as Det Chief Insp Andy Redwood told BBC Crimewatch in 2013, it should have interviewed the McCanns under caution at the start, if only to rule them out. Mr Sutton says that from the beginning they did accept something, the abduction theory.

The Metropolitan Police has confirmed it didn’t formally interview the McCanns because it was satisfied the couple had been ruled out by the initial Portuguese investigation.

Without that interview, says Mr Sutton, the Scotland Yard inquiry was flawed from the start and so the McCanns have still not had the “proper” investigation Alan Johnson promised them.

The 10th anniversary has been an excuse for me to contact my fellow hacks who spent many weeks in Praia da Luz in the summer of 2007 to see if they have learned anything more than me.

So far, despite recent headlines about breakthroughs and new leads, they haven’t. Over the years we have all tried very hard to beat each other to exclusives, sometimes going to extraordinary lengths. I remember turning up one January to discover that three of my rivals had spent Christmas in Praia da Luz and shared a lonely festive lunch in the dimly-lit Fortaleza restaurant with the sound of freezing waves crashing on the rocks below.

It was a reminder that Madeleine’s disappearance has played such a big part in our lives and, as long as it remained a mystery, we couldn’t let it go.

There’s talk of a reporters’ reunion, but that would hardly be appropriate. Now, Madeleine’s safe return, wouldn’t that be a cause for celebration for us all?

Searching For Madeleine is on Sky 1 on Tuesday, 2 May at 10pm, and on Sky News on Wednesday, 3 May at 8pm

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Post  bb1 on Tue May 02, 2017 3:21 pm

Two months ago someone posted an apparent photograph of the family having lunch in a restaurant. While they were still eating, the picture was put on Twitter, followed by a map and directions to the restaurant along with many vile comments such as ‘Are the kids with them or are they also home alone?’ And ‘Shame they didn’t choke.’ One poster suggested spitting in their food, another wanted to pour beer over them.

Did the haters imagine that the media don't know ALL about them, and their vile, sadistic treatment of the McCann family?

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Post  bb1 on Tue May 02, 2017 3:23 pm

I confronted one of the McCann critics, Brenda Leyland, a woman who had Tweeted many nasty comments. She invited me into her home for a chat, though she didn’t want to be interviewed formally.

Whatever drove Ms Leyland to kill herself on her son's birthday, I doubt if it was because she was 'terrified' of Brunt, as the dimwit haters try to pretend.

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Post  bb1 on Tue May 02, 2017 4:08 pm

We’ve also spoken to former detective Colin Sutton, who was in the running to head the Scotland Yard investigation before he retired.

I am afraid I have ZERO interest in the opinions of anyone that joins not-Bennett's site.

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Post  bb1 on Tue May 02, 2017 6:51 pm

https://stopthemyths.info/viewtopic.php?f=115&p=329674#p329674

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Just thinking that myself Catkins. Wasn't he a member on Bennett's forum? Now why would someone like him be a member on that forum? Dear God it's the pits and he should have more sense in his position


Precisely. The opinion of anyone that joins conspiraloon and hounder central is of no value whatsoever.

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Post  bb1 on Tue May 02, 2017 6:53 pm

xxxxxxxxhttp://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=5764.2805

He retired from the Met in Jan 2011.
http://www.colinsutton.com/cv.pdf

The review process did not start until May 2011
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So, how could he have been 'considered' for the job?

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Post  lily on Tue May 02, 2017 7:54 pm

Someone telling porkies?  Pcorneater
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Post  bb1 on Tue May 02, 2017 7:55 pm

Or 'misremembering'? Pcorneater

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Post  lily on Tue May 02, 2017 8:33 pm

Ah yes, of course.   Wink
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Post  bb1 on Tue May 02, 2017 10:01 pm

It's starting now - stand by for the traditional screeching and shrieking from the hate club and Gonzo-worshippers.

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Post  bb1 on Tue May 02, 2017 10:11 pm

Looks pretty bad for Amoral so far. Words like 'chaos' and 'mistakes' being used.

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Post  lily on Tue May 02, 2017 10:27 pm

The truth is too strong for them.
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Post  bb1 on Tue May 02, 2017 10:34 pm

Pedro do Carmo is on it. He strikes me as being very calm and professional.

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Post  bb1 on Tue May 02, 2017 10:55 pm

I hope the hater PoS that stalked the McCann family to a restaurant is proud of itself - its scummy behaviour just appeared on TV.

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Post  lily on Tue May 02, 2017 10:56 pm

About time we heard that from over there.  smile
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Post  bb1 on Tue May 02, 2017 11:02 pm

That was an interesting show; there were no real bombshells, but the revelations about the problems caused by the original, botched investigation will be new to many.

Gonzo might as well have been given a guide on how NOT to investigate a missing child case, and his scattergun approach and lack of logic, not to mention brain cells, were pretty disastrous.

I still don't know what point the Sutton character was trying to make.

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Post  bb1 on Wed May 03, 2017 7:17 am

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So Colin Sutton was never asked to work on the Madeleine McCann case, and never did work on it, and retired before the police even began reviewing the material. Yet he knows that the investigation was only interested in validating the abduction theory. This is despite the police specifically saying that it was by looking at evidence collected by Portuguese police they could rule the McCanns out so they actively looked at the parents. What did he think they should do jack boot all over Portugal? Scotland yard looked at the evidence and ruled the parents out, Portugal looked at the parents and ruled them out.

Talk about desperate for attention.


Probably why he then joined the Hounders. Pcorneater

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Post  bb1 on Wed May 03, 2017 7:53 am

Oh, FFS!

https://stopthemyths.info/viewtopic.php?f=115&p=329710#p329710

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So, everything he says is nothing more than speculation about an investigation that was nothing to do with him? If he keeps this up, he'll get on CartofMuck telly with Anjos, Flores, and the rest of the has-beens.

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Every interview I have read, he tells a different story and three times has claimed he was 'misrepresented' (and he joined Tony Bennett's forum).
The worst thing is the abuse of his former colleagues' integrity. It seems from his account as if the officers who worked on Operation Grange were accepting of a dishonest investigation


He joined the Hounders; that's all that needs said about him and his lack of morals.

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Post  bb1 on Wed May 03, 2017 8:09 am

Brunt's reporting from PDL, talking about the abuse the McCanns are suffering online.

And about that vile hater stalker that posted a pic of the family in a restaurant, and the threats to attack the family which followed.

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Post  bb1 on Wed May 03, 2017 8:11 am

I wonder, would the police do nothing if, say, Jewish folk, or people of colour, or muslims, were subjected to the same daily barrage of abuse and threats as the McCann family?

No, of course not - the perpetrators would be hauled into court and charged with hate crimes. It is, IMO, about time the scummy McCann-haters got the same treatment.

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McCanns, Brunt, face daily online abuse

Post  bb1 on Wed May 03, 2017 5:43 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/madeleine-mccann-parents-kate-gerry-online-abuse-twitter-trolls-tenth-anniversary-10-years-on-social-a7715581.html

Madeleine McCann's parents Kate and Gerry suffer online abuse on tenth anniversary of her disappearance
Kate and Gerry McCann face criticism and anger a decade after their three-year-old child went missing

Madeleine McCann’s parents are still facing a daily barrage of online abuse, 10 years to the day after their daughter’s disappearance.

Social media criticism of Kate and Gerry McCann, posted on the 10th anniversary of their three-year-old daughter going missing in Praia da Luz, Portugal, has included calls for them to be charged with child neglect, and unsubstantiated allegations that they accidentally killed Madeleine.

In apparent references to the fact that Madeleine went missing from the family’s holiday apartment while her mother and father dined at a tapas restaurant 50 yards away, successive twitter users have called the McCanns “vile”, “negligent” parents who “have only themselves to blame”.

The McCanns – who with their friends had been checking on their daughter every half- hour, have been called the ‘McScams’ and accused of lying about Madeleine’s disappearance.

One anonymous twitter user chose the tenth anniversary to post his theory that the McCanns accidentally killed their own daughter after giving Madeleine medicine so she slept while they went out.

This is despite the McCanns having shown as long ago as October 2007 that they had never sedated their children, by hiring forensic specialists to take hair samples from Madeleine’s younger brother and sister.

The McCanns also had their formal “arguido” (suspect) status lifted by Portugese police in July 2008.

Other 10th anniversary social media comments included claims the £11m Scotland Yard review of the case is “corrupt” and concerned only with establishing the parents’ innocence. Abuse has also been directed at the Sky News reporter who had confronted woman accused of posting online accusations directed at the McCanns, who later committed suicide.

It follows a decade of online hostility directed at the McCanns by some social media users.

Since their daughter disappeared, the couple have had to face implied threats which have included comments such as: “We need some numbers for some assassins”, “These two should burn in hell”, “I will supply the petrol”.

In an interview with the BBC’s Fiona Bruce last week, the McCanns said that they now avoided social media, and did their best to protect their twins from the online abuse.

Kate McCann said: "I think it has been shocking ... that aspect of human nature that I hadn't really encountered before. Because I think it's so far from how you would behave or people that you know would behave.”

She added: "It's been striking and quite hard really to get your head round. Because why would somebody write that? Why would somebody add to someone's upset - why would someone in a position of ignorance do something like that?"

In October 2014 Sky News reporter Martin Brunt approached Brenda Leyland, who under the twitter name Sweepyface had posted comments that included: “To Kate and Gerry, you will be hated by millions for the rest of your miserable, evil, conniving lives, have a nice day!"

Days later, Ms Leyland – whose tweets, it was later ruled, had not amounted to any sort of criminal offence - took her own life.

Mr Brunt remains the subject of online abuse, with some twitter users posting about him today - even though Sky did not name Ms Leyland in the footage it broadcast or give details of where she lived.

She was later named by other news outlets. The online abuse, however, has largely been reserved for Mr Brunt, despite him telling the inquest that he had been “devastated” by Ms Leyland’s death, had given her his contact details and kept her informed of Sky’s plans ahead of broadcast, and had been unaware she had a history of mental illness.

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Post  bb1 on Wed May 03, 2017 5:48 pm

Why would somebody add to someone's upset - why would someone in a position of ignorance do something like that?

Easy - because they enjoy it. It validates their existence, lets them project their own failures onto other people.

The haters get a sadistic kick out of abusing people, it's no more complicated than that. Years ago, they would have enjoyed public executions, whooped and hollered as innocent Black Americans were lynched, or laughed as their neighbours were burned as witches or heretics.

Their ilk have always been with us. Unfortunately, social media has given them a platform from which to shriek their cruelty.

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Post  bb1 on Wed May 03, 2017 9:00 pm

Panorama documentary about to start - no doubt there will be yet more screechings and wails from the haters. Pcorneater

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