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Post  bb1 Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:39 am

How funny! Hoho is now trying to defend her idol's drinking habits!

Some things just are not defendable:

So, what was Gonc 'anxious' about? AmaralMOS1509_468x684

And he's one.

PS - I do hope she's going to do another Xmas Tribute to Big Rock, the last one has become a Cult Classic.
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Post  Sabot Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:45 am


Saw that Video, Bonny. Not very flattering, is it. But then most of her efforts aren't. Can't she see what she is doing by exposing all of the weaknesses in The PJ Case. Still, never mind. Keep up the good work.
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Post  bb1 Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:14 pm

Hounder tries to make excuses for their idol:


It is normal here in Spain, and I can well imagine also in Portugal, for groups of workers to regularly go to the same favourite restaurant and have a 2 hour lunch, they then return to work and work 'till late evening.

Carry on deluding yourselves!

I confronted the sweaty, corpulent figure in an ill-fitting jacket twice last Friday: the first time at 10am, as he sat slurping coffee and cakes at the Kalahary cafe in Portimao with his colleague, Chief Inspector Guillermino Encarnacao; the second just before 3pm, when the two men made their way from a restaurant to a waiting black Mercedes, in which they were driven 400 yards to meet officials at the courthouse.

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Gonc didn't work in the evening, either. He admitted himself that when the wonderwoofs were in 5a, he was feeding his face yet again.....


On August 3rd 2007, I am having dinner in Praia da rocha, near Portimão, with my friend Gaivota. Unable to hide my anxiety, I keep looking at my watch and my telephone. Gaivota asks me if everything is OK: I respond with an absent-minded "Yes." A few kilometres away one of the most important search operations ever carried out in Portugal has begun. Perhaps we will finally manage to clear up the mystery of Madeleine's disappearance.

The investigation starts in apartment 5A.


....And then goes on to report on it as if he was a witness, when in fact, he was repeating hearsay. He does that time after time, which is one of the many reasons he is in so much trouble.

Never mind, maybe all that booze helped him take his mind off being an ARGUIDO.
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Post  crazytony Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:09 pm

Unable to hide my anxiety, I keep looking at my watch and my telephone.

Why would he be anxious about the search?

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Post  bb1 Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:53 pm

Oh my - yes, Tony!!!!!!!! He was EXPECTING something to happen - which he shouldn't have been. That hadn't dawned on me before....
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Post  crazytony Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:57 pm

bb1 wrote:Oh my - yes, Tony!!!!!!!! He was EXPECTING something to happen - which he shouldn't have been. That hadn't dawned on me before....
Precisely, Bonny!

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Post  bb1 Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:04 pm

That paints a rather nasty picture, doesn't it, Tony? What did he have to be anxious about - was it the reason he didn't bother to attend the scene?

I hope Gonc remembers to say Thank You! to HoHo - if she hadn't been so determined to pretend he wasn't a drunken disgrace, I wouldn't have checked on that.
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Post  crazytony Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:09 pm

bb1 wrote:That paints a rather nasty picture, doesn't it, Tony? What did he have to be anxious about - was it the reason he didn't bother to attend the scene?

I hope Gonc remembers to say Thank You! to HoHo - if she hadn't been so determined to pretend he wasn't a drunken disgrace, I wouldn't have checked on that.
Oh, it paints a very nasty picture, Bonny. HoHo has just dropped her hero right in it!

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Post  bb1 Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:16 pm

I've split this, Tony, I suspect it is rather important....

GONC SHOULD SIMPLY NOT HAVE BEEN 'ANXIOUS'. Was he waiting for the dogs to find a little something that had been planted there, I wonder?
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Post  Lamplighter Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:17 pm

It confirms certain thoughts I have on the subject, and reinforces my ideas of what happened. However, as they are my thoughts and opinions, I am not going to post them on here. LL
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Post  bb1 Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:26 pm

Indeed, LL. Wink
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Post  crazytony Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:28 pm

GONC SHOULD SIMPLY NOT HAVE BEEN 'ANXIOUS'.
Think about it. The vehicle was driven to the search area by a Portuguese cop. That was the first mistake. The vehicle should have been loaded onto a low loader then transported to the area in question.
Now this is where it really starts to look like a set-up. The vehicle was returned to the McCanns and not kept as evidence. Tell me, what law enforcement would return a car to the owner if it held proof of someone's death?

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Post  Pedro Silva Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:31 pm

crazytony, I agree with you.

the Renault was returned, because no evidence there, which proves again what we know:

gonçalo amaral, is a liar, a corrupt, incompetent, sacked pj.




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Post  bb1 Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:42 pm

crazytony wrote:GONC SHOULD SIMPLY NOT HAVE BEEN 'ANXIOUS'.
Think about it. The vehicle was driven to the search area by a Portuguese cop. That was the first mistake. The vehicle should have been loaded onto a low loader then transported to the area in question.
Now this is where it really starts to look like a set-up. The vehicle was returned to the McCanns and not kept as evidence. Tell me, what law enforcement would return a car to the owner if it held proof of someone's death?

They wouldn't, would they - the very idea is ridiculous. I wonder if his superiors in the PJ were already smelling rats?
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Post  crazytony Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:50 pm

They wouldn't, would they - the very idea is ridiculous. I wonder if his superiors in the PJ were already smelling rats?
I would say his superiors saw right through the incompetent lying fool.
The moment I read the vehicle was driven to the search area; I saw right through him.
And, there is little doubt in my mind something corrupt took place in that search area that night!

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Post  Pedro Silva Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:55 pm

bb1, crazytony, your words are mine.
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Post  Lamplighter Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:00 pm

crazytony wrote:They wouldn't, would they - the very idea is ridiculous. I wonder if his superiors in the PJ were already smelling rats?
I would say his superiors saw right through the incompetent lying fool.
The moment I read the vehicle was driven to the search area; I saw right through him.
And, there is little doubt in my mind something corrupt took place in that search area that night!
I would say a monumental cover up, Tony. And with corruption as high as has been suggested in the PJ, I would say the need for a reappraisal of the situation they had landed in because of the corruption would involve some very high-flying personages. LL
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Post  crazytony Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:04 pm

Lamplighter wrote:
crazytony wrote:They wouldn't, would they - the very idea is ridiculous. I wonder if his superiors in the PJ were already smelling rats?
I would say his superiors saw right through the incompetent lying fool.
The moment I read the vehicle was driven to the search area; I saw right through him.
And, there is little doubt in my mind something corrupt took place in that search area that night!
I would say a monumental cover up, Tony. And with corruption as high as has been suggested in the PJ, I would say the need for a reappraisal of the situation they had landed in because of the corruption would involve some very high-flying personages. LL
I agree, LL.

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Post  crazytony Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:05 pm

Pedro Silva wrote:bb1, crazytony, your words are mine.
Something was very wrong on the night in question, Pedro.

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Post  bb1 Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:12 pm

Stella Starlight ‏@StellabyLight
@MarketingMaddie Scotland Yard must have had a very thorough chat with Goncalo Amaral by now. #McCann


Whatever for? Don't tell me he's been committing criminal acts in the UK, too? Pcorneater
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Post  Pedro Silva Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:16 pm

who wants to have a chat with the liar gonçaçlo amaral, specially when his disgusting behaviour is known.
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Post  Sabot Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:30 pm


In hindsight it is all very disturbing. Absolutely no Chain of Evidence, so worthless in Court. So what can have been the point of this farce? The whole Dog shooting match would have been decimated if The McCanns had ever been charged.
Amaral had no chance of either of The McCanns having a confession beaten out of them, and was obviously resorting to other tactics.
And more importantly, Amaral was desperate for a conviction in the light of The Cipriano Debacle. And guess who can buy Cadaverine on The Internet?
Did Amaral plant Cadaverine? I would say that it was more than likely. But he would have had to break the Rules of Evidence to do so, which he did.
And not all of The Portuguese Judiciary are stupid or corrupt.
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Post  bb1 Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:54 pm

No, they aren't, and thankfully Gonc gave his superiors an excuse to boot him off the case and encourage him to 'retire'. Nasty, nasty man - and where has his vendetta got him? It's a measure of his nastiness than he will not take responsibility for his self-inflicted woes and keeps blaming others, IMO.
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Post  Pedro Silva Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:20 pm

about: "Gonc gave his superiors an excuse to boot him off the case and encourage him to 'retire'.", this should have happened when amaral acted with such despicable behaviour following the Cipriano case.
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Post  bb1 Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:47 pm

The timing is interesting, Pedro - remember, Lovely Sofa claimed that they were going to go on holiday when Madeleine McCann so thoughtlessly got abducted, with not a thought for the Amaral travel plans.

I wonder if he was actually going to be suspended after being made an arguido on May 4th, 2007? But dodged out of that due to Madeleine's disappearance? Did he tell his superiors he would get it right this time, without anyone being tortured?

The timing has to raise questions, IMO, as Gonc gained from Madeleine's disappearance.

Of course, he went on to make yet another mess. But no-one 'fell down the stairs' this time, and he only threatened Robert Murat verbally.

BUT - if Gonc had managed to frame Murat, or the McCanns, his career would have been rescued.

It's a very odd business, is the timing.
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