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Coroner rules: Azaria Chamberlain killed by dingo (merged)

Post  Rose on Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:34 am

http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16245540

Coroner Rules Dingo Took Away Australian Baby



Lindy Chamberlain pictured with her nine-week-old baby Azaria in 1980

A 32-year mystery over the disappearance of a baby in Australia's outback has come to an end after a coroner rules that a dingo was responsible for the death of Azaria Chamberlain.

The coroner's finding ends a three-decade fight for justice by Azaria's parents, Michael Chamberlain and Lindy Chamberlain-Creighton, who was jailed for three years over her daughter's death before she was later cleared.

Nine-week-old Azaria disappeared on August 17, 1980, from a tent in a camping ground near Uluru, also known as Ayers Rock, which is one of Australia's main tourist attractions.

Her body was never found.

Mr Chamberlain said outside the court the ordeal had been "a terrifying battle" but now the family had "a chance to put our daughter's spirit to rest".

He and his former wife have always maintained Azaria was taken by a dingo.



Azaria's jacket was found near a dingo's lair

Northern Territory Coroner Elizabeth Morris found evidence from the case proved a dingo or dingoes were responsible for Azaria's death and ruled that her death certificate should read "attacked and taken by a dingo".

"What occurred on 17th August, 1980, was that shortly after Mrs Chamberlain placed Azaria in the tent, a dingo or dingoes entered the tent, took Azaria and carried and dragged her from the immediate area," Ms Morris said.

In an emotional finding, Ms Morris then offered her condolences to the Chamberlains, who were in the Darwin court room.

"Please accept my sincere sympathy on the death of your special loved daughter and sister Azaria. I am so sorry for your loss," she said to the family.

"Time does not remove the pain and sadness of the death of a child.


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Post  Rose on Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:59 am

Follow up: Coroner Rules Dingo Took Away Australian Baby

After a 32-year legal fight a coroner in Australia has ruled that a dingo stole a baby from a campsite in 1980, finally removing any remaining doubt about the mother's involvement in the notorious case.

When nine-week-old Azaria Chamberlain disappeared on a family camping holiday, Australia was split over whether a wild Australian dog or the baby's mother Lindy Chamberlain-Creighton was to blame.

The child's death certificate left the cause of death open but a coroner in Darwin has now ruled it must be changed to blame a dingo.

The eyes of Mrs Chamberlain and her ex-husband, Michael Chamberlain, welled with tears as the findings of the fourth inquest into the baby's disappearance were announced in court.

"We're relieved and delighted to come to the end of this saga," Mrs Chamberlain said outside the court in the northern city of Darwin.

She spent three years in prison in the 1980's for Azaria's murder, accused of slashing the baby's throat with scissors even though a body was never found.

Her then-husband was charged with being an accessory after the fact. The murder conviction was later overturned and Mrs Chamberlain has always maintained that a wild dog took her infant.

Azaria disappeared from a campsite near Ayers Rock, the red monolith in the Australian desert now known by its Aboriginal name Uluru.


The case became famous internationally through the 1988 movie "A Cry in the Dark."

Many Australians initially did not believe that a dingo was strong enough to take away the baby. Some even spat on Mrs Chamberlain and howled like a dingoes outside her house.

She was three years into her sentence, when evidence was found that backed up her version of events: the baby's jacket, found near a dingo den, helped explain the condition of the rest of the baby's clothing.

A Royal Commission, the highest form of investigation in Australia, debunked much of the forensic evidence used at trial and her conviction was overturned.

The couple gave new evidence to the coroner about more than 200 recorded dingo attacks on humans since Azaria disappeared. Three children died as a result.

"No longer will Australia be able to say that dingoes are not dangerous and only attack if provoked," Mrs Chamberlain said before leaving the court with her ex-husband and their three surviving children.

They then went to collect Azaria's death certificate, which states the newly confirmed cause of death.

"We live in a beautiful country, but it is dangerous and we would ask all Australians to beware of this and take appropriate precautions," she said.

Coroner Elizabeth Morris ruled that on August 17, 1980, shortly after Mrs Chamberlain placed Azaria in the tent, a dingo, or dingoes, entered and carried the baby away.

Ms Morris detailed how the mother was alerted to a baby's cry, and on returning to the tent saw a dingo nearby. She raised the alarm but despite an extensive search, the body was never found.

The coroner noted that dingo experts disagree on whether a dingo could have removed the clothing so neatly and without causing more damage.

"It would have been very difficult for a dingo to have removed Azaria from her clothing without causing more damage than what was observed on it, however it would have been possible for it to have done so," she said.

"I think it is likely that a dingo would have left the clothing more scattered, but it might not have done so.

She then spoke directly to the family: "Please accept my sincere sympathy on the death of your special loved daughter and sister Azaria. I am so sorry for your loss.

"Time does not remove the pain and sadness of the death of a child."



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Post  bb1 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:43 am

http://www.whatsonsanya.com/news-22044-aussie-boy-azaria-chamberlain-killed-by-dingo-corner-says-after-25-years.html


Aussie boy Azaria Chamberlain killed by dingo, corner says after 25 years


A dingo was responsible for the death of Azaria Chamberlain in 1980, a Northern Territory coroner has found.

Coroner Elizabeth Morris told a packed courtroom in Darwin today that a dingo was to blame for the attack at Uluru, which originally saw Azaria's mother Lindy Chamberlain-Creighton jailed for murder and her husband Michael given a suspended sentence for being an accessory after the fact.

Both were later exonerated after a royal commission in 1987.

During the inquest both the counsel assisting the coroner, Rex Wild, QC, and the lawyer representing Azaria's parents, Stuart Tipple, agreed a dingo was the most likely cause of the baby's death.

The finding means Chamberlain-Creighton, as she is known after remarrying, and her ex-husband Michael Chamberlain have finally won recognition that a dingo killed their child.

The inquest was the fourth into the death of Azaria since the nine-week-old child disappeared on a camping trip.

The decision will mean that Azaria's death certificate will be changed.

In the final moments of handing down her finding, an emotional Morris apologised to the Chamberlain family.

Morris said she was satisfied the evidence was "adequate, clear, cogent and exact and excluded all other reasons possible".

She told the court: "(Azaria) died at Uluru on 17th August 1980 as a result of being attacked and taken by a dingo."

She told them an amended death certificate was available immediately to them.

In 1988, the Northern Territory Court of Criminal Appeal overturned all convictions against the Chamberlains but a coronial inquest in 1995 delivered an open verdict.

Eleven dingo attacks
Earlier today, Lindy Chamberlain-Creighton's lawyer indicated he expected the coroner to find that her daughter Azaria was taken by a dingo.

Asked if he was confident of the outcome, lawyer Stuart Tipple replied: "I think it's wrong to ever say one is confident in judicial matters.

"I certainly agree with the counsel assisting the inquest with his recommendation and given that his recommendation is the same as ours, you would expect that that would follow."

Tipple said the coroner had been presented with fresh evidence detailing 11 serious dingo attacks that had occurred since the last inquest into Azaria's death in 1995.

But Tipple rejected the suggestion the Chamberlains wanted to put to rest any doubts about their innocence.

"I don't really think that anybody that is right thinking or really studied the evidence could possibly entertain that Lindy or Michael are involved," he told ABC Radio today.

"There have been enough judicial decisions about that, this is really just the final public record that needs to be corrected."

Tipple says that from his experience all parents who have lost children in tragic circumstances share a common view.

"They really want to make sure this doesn't happen to another family and to another parent," he said.

"It's not really just a cause or a journey for themselves."

Lindy Chamberlain-Creighton, who was originally jailed over Azaria's death, arrived in Darwin yesterday.

Enduring saga
Morris' findings could be the final chapter in what has been one of Australia's most enduring sagas, which began when Azaria disappeared from a campsite in Uluru in 1980.

Court hearings in the 1980s resulted in Lindy Chamberlain being jailed for murder while her then husband, Michael Chamberlain, was given a suspended sentence for being an accessory after the fact.

But after Azaria's matinee jacket was found in 1986 the case was reopened and a royal commission in 1987 exonerated both parents.

In 1988 the Northern Territory Court of Criminal Appeals overturned all convictions against the Chamberlains.

Despite their exoneration, a coronial inquest into the disappearance of Azaria in 1995 delivered an open verdict, and the Chamberlains have been fighting to have that changed.

There was a surreal element to Chamberlain-Creighton's arrival in Darwin yesterday.

"Today was her (Azaria's) birthday," she told reporters at the airport.

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Post  bb1 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:49 am

Naturally, that hasn't made the slightest bit of difference to the hatefest going on, with remarks like:

Re: dingo is in the clear over baby azaria***
kitti Today
That's what I mean carly, they can't prove the mother had anything to do with it so it must off been a dingo or now dingos.....for all we know the baby could off already been dead when it was taken to the outback and the dingos could off come by the body and that's it


Here's a quote from another hater:


There is JonBenet Ramsey, the Dingo baby and Maddie - a lot of similarities and no solution.

There may not yet be solutions but the similarities are glaringly obvious.

Despite the pitchforkers' cries of Burn the witch! Hang 'em high! in all three cases, the targets of the lynch mobs have been cleared by the relevant, LEGAL authorities.

***Inaccurate thread title handiwork of LOOKAMEE!!

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Post  bb1 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:20 am

Here is a classic example of forker thinking, or rather, non-thinking:

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Policeman believes dingo not involved in baby Azaria #Chamberlain's murder. It was HUMANS! http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/t20512-dingo-is-in-the-clear-over-baby-azaria #McCann


The 'policeman' she is dribbling about is the elderly one who messed up the first investigation so badly that Mrs Chamberlain went to jail for a crime she did not commit.

But the forkers would rather believe him than a host of experts, other police officers, forensic experts, coroners - any excuse to shriek BURN THE WITCH.

What does it say about them that, time and time again, they pitchfork innocent people and victimise victims all over again?

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Post  Jean-Pierre.t50 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:31 am

Page 14 of the international mysogonist police handbook -

Answer. The mother did it.

Now, what was the question?

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Post  bb1 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:42 am

Here's a gem:


Re: Dingo caused baby Azaria Chamberlain's death - coroner
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The Chamberlains didn't however market their daughter as a constantly changing product and use her as the basis for a commercial enterprise.

For me, the benefit of the doubt still applies here.


How very gracious of her to give Mrs Chamberlain the 'benefit of the doubt'! They clearly are incapable of grasping that they are doing this to an innocent woman.

Do they ever take their hategoggles off for long enough to read?

Nine-year-old boy killed by dingoes on holiday island beach

A nine-year-old Australian boy was killed and a seven-year-old boy injured on Monday when they were attacked by two wild dogs on Fraser Island off Australia's north east coast.
The dingoes attacked the boys as they walked away from their family campsites at Waddy Point on the eastern coast of Fraser Island, about 260 km (160 miles) north of Brisbane, police said.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-42438/Nine-year-old-boy-killed-dingoes-holiday-island-beach.html#ixzz1xZg7uUyi

Dingoes DO attack people, they DO kill children.

But I guess dealing with reality isn't nearly as much fun as pitchforking innocent people - usually women.

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Post  Sabot on Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:11 pm


http://resources.news.com.au/files/2012/06/12/1226392/701131-aus-nation-file-azaria-findings.pdf

Anyone reading this would wonder how Lindy Chamberlaine was ever arrested in the first place let alone convicted. This was a witch hunt, pure and simple. The Mother always done it.
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Post  Sabot on Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:15 pm


Wild animals, including Dingos don't think, "This is a human baby, and I mustn't attack it." They just think, "This is food."
Babies have their own smell, just as Puppies do. It wouldn't have been difficult for a Dingo to smell this.
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Post  Jean-Pierre.t50 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:44 pm

The terminally stupid "Kitti" has yet to grasp the whole "innocent until proven guilty" bit.


Re: dingo is in the clear over baby azaria
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.The question is.......are you 100% sure that a dingo took the baby....my answer is...no...simple as that.

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Post  Sabot on Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:37 pm

Jean-Pierre.t50 wrote:The terminally stupid "Kitti" has yet to grasp the whole "innocent until proven guilty" bit.


Re: dingo is in the clear over baby azaria
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.The question is.......are you 100% sure that a dingo took the baby....my answer is...no...simple as that.

The only possible answer to that is, are you 100% sure the mother killed the child? After that you look at The Evidence, which just happens to have pointed to A Dingo.
This, at the very least, is Reasonable Doubt.
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Post  Sabot on Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:55 pm


Good God. They are having a lovely time. The best fun for yonks. And Lindy Chamberlaine was cleared of all involvement over thirty years ago. But still they feel qualified to rule against her, or not. As though their opinions are of any importance.
Please tell me that none of these people will ever serve on Juries anywhere. They are a bunch of vicious thugs. Anonymously, although I wouldn't put bets on them in real life. They completely ignore evidence, and rely simply on foetid gut instinct.
But not a word against the baby's father.
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Post  bb1 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:17 pm

Oh, let them get on with it, Sabot. If anyone needed proof that they are a bunch of bigoted, ignorant, pitchforkers - they now have it, in spades.

Their opinions are worthless.

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Post  Sabot on Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:59 pm


Yes, Bonny. Their opinions are worthless. I just marvel at their capacity to post endless shite.
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Post  bb1 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:10 pm

It's them, Sabot, not the rest of the world. That after all this, after all that expert evidence, they can still carry on pitchforking Lindy Chamberlain regardless - who actually cares what they think about anything? It wouldn't matter if HM the Queen herself told them to leave the McCann family alone, they would just decide the Queen was IN IT and carry on as before.

There's no point in 'debating' with them; indeed, IMO that is counter-productive because it gives their rantings and fantasies an unjustified legitimacy.

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