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Post  bb1 on Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:43 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2426813/Anti-McCann-kate-madeleine-websites-plotted-kidnap-siblings-knew-disappearance-court-hears.html#ixzz2fRZZC5fV

'Anti-McCann' websites plotted to kidnap one of Madeleine's siblings 'to find out what they knew about her disappearance', court hears
Friend of the McCanns found examples of forum members encouraging kidnap so one of the twins could 'throw some light on the matter'
Police chief claimed the McCanns hid their daughter's body after her death
Evidence heard in Lisbon during £1million libel case against Goncalo Amaral

By GERARD COUZENS
PUBLISHED: 15:09, 20 September 2013 | UPDATED: 15:36, 20 September 2013

Internet trolls fuelled by an ex police chief's claims about the McCanns incited conspiracy-theorists to plot to kidnap the couple's twins Sean and Amelie, a court heard today.
Goncalo Amaral's claims they faked daughter Madeleine's abduction to cover up her death in their Algarve holiday apartment was to blame for the threats, close family friend Michael Wright said.
Gerry and Kate McCann, 45, from Rothley, Leics, are suing the former Portuguese detective over his bombshell July 2008 book 'The Truth of the Lie.'

The couple have also launched £1 million libel proceedings at Lisbon's Palace of Justice against Mr Amaral's book publishers and a TV station which broadcast an April 2009 documentary based on his claims.
Mr Wright, husband of Kate McCann's cousin Anne-Marie, told the court the theories in Mr Amaral's book gave conspiracy theorists on anti-Mccann Internet forums 'focus' because he had been in charge of the botched investigation into Madeleine's disappearance.
He said: 'There were several examples of them inciting forum members to abduct one of the twins as they felt they would be able to throw some light on what may have happened.
'On one of the Internet forums, called The 3 Arguidos, there was an Internet conversation in great length where a member was suggesting that someone should abduct Sean or Amelie because they may be able to get information out of them that would confirm Mr Amaral's theories.'
Mr Wright, who helped monitor Internet activity on missing Madeleine for the couple, said he felt compelled to tell Gerry and he was interviewed by police from his home county of North Yorkshire after they decided detectives should be alerted.
He said the threats also made Gerry and Kate more vigilant about the use of the Internet by their twins, now eight.

'I know Amelie has Googled her name and discovered sites to do with the conclusions of Mr Amaral's book,' he told the court.
'I do not know if she opened any of the pages and fortunately she told Gerry and Kate.
'But I know they will definitely be in a position where over the coming years they will search on the Internet and they will find people who will be saying their parents killed their sister.'
Mr Amaral's book was published just three days after the McCanns - made suspects over their daughter's death in September 2007 - had their status as 'arguidos' formally lifted.
Around 120,000 copies of the book were sold before it was withdrawn when the McCanns won an injunction against him.
It formed the basis for a documentary screened on TVI - the Portuguese equivalent of ITV - in April 2009.
Company director Mr Wright, from Skipton, North Yorks, said Gerry had suffered one of his darkest hours when they marked the second anniversary of Madeleine's May 3 2007 disappearance together in a remote cottage.
The couple were told on the way to the cottage locals on the Algarve were ripping up posters they had put up as part of a campaign to find their daughter.
He told the court: 'I had a discussion with Gerry where he talked about not being able to go on.

'I had never heard Gerry speak like that before.
'It was a very upsetting conversation for me to hear Gerry talk like that.
'Both he and Kate are incredibly strong and driven people.'
He said Kate, who flew to Lisbon last week for the start of the libel trial, changed whenever she was in Portugal where she felt most people believed Mr Amaral's theories.
'She feels she can't be seen to smile,' he told the court.
'Almost any form of relaxation is a problem, she wouldn't even go to the gym on her own, because there's still a belief most people in Portugal think she and Gerry are responsible for killing Madeleine.

'What is normal behaviour for her at home is very different when she is in Portugal.'
Revealing he had received an email informing him Mr Amaral had asked for £67,000 for an interview with Channel 5 in September 2009, he added: 'Kate's reaction was this was confirmation this was not about justice or truth.
'This was about greed.' Amaral, 56, is denying defamation.
He insists everything he published in his book is already contained in police and court case files on Madeleine which have been made public - an argument disputed by the McCanns.
The case, due to finish hearing evidence in November, continues next Friday.
It is believed Kate's mother Susan Healy, cousin Michael Corner and Gerry's sister Bridget Cameron, known as Trish, will be called as witnesses



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I hope that over on Justice, Luz is taking notice of the part about people in Portugal ripping down Madeleine's posters?


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Post  bb1 on Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:18 pm

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This testamony by Michael Wright will be easy to rubbish by GA`s lawyer - trouble is, there is a whole week for this to fester before he can do so. It will be easy to clarify that the 3As was gone before the book was even published and the fee for the TV interview also clarified.


Bit of a problem there, with 3A going on for more than a year AFTER the files came out and Gonc's trashy book was published.

So no, Gonc's lawyer won't be 'rubbishing' anything.

I wonder if it will be mentioned that Gonc joined 3A?

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Post  bb1 on Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:24 pm

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Of course there's no way to check that as 3As is long gone...

How handy for them !

Au contraire, it's very easy to check. Not least because there are HUNDREDS of screenshots and threats dated 2009, long after Gonc's nasty 'book' was published.

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Post  bb1 on Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:46 pm



What's the date on that? Oh yes, it's April 2009 - long AFTER Gonc's 'book' came out.

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Post  lily on Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:36 pm

I know that we remember those kidnap threats. We have also seen the screenshots.

Shame innit for the hounders and forkers who hope otherwise. Pcorneater 
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Post  bb1 on Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:52 pm

The McCann-haters are all screeching like vampires dowsed with Holy Water just now - don't think they ever expected any of their dirty deeds to come to light, especially under these circumstances.

At least their vile, hateful posts have been put to good use - demonstrating just how much damage Gonzo has done. I hope someone reminds the court that he was a member of 3a himself.....

I wonder how much money Humpty, Laffin, Luz and co have cost Gonc today? Lots, I hope.

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Post  bb1 on Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:55 pm

http://stopthemyths.prophpbb.com/topic5810-175.html

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I made a report to Crimestoppers about the kidnap threat myself

I see the antis have caught mass amnesia; even the one that made the threat.

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Post  bb1 on Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:02 pm

Humpty Bumpty ‏@RealHumptyB 3h
@TrulyJudy73 Are you suggesting today's courtroom #McCann 'kidnap threat' claim relates to a post I made on 3As in 2007/8?


Admitting it, is he, while lying about the date?

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Post  bb1 on Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:08 pm

Another Humpty post - note the date is 2009 and he even mentions the 3as...




ETA, oh, look who joined in with the gloating and sniggering!

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Post  bb1 on Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:17 pm

A handy roundup of malice and evil:

http://mccannhateexposed.pbworks.com/w/page/63779647/Miscellaneous%20threats

Including a contribution from emu/redblossom with a different head on:



Lovely people these Amaral supporters - NOT.

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Post  bb1 on Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:37 pm

This what Gonzo was so desperate to censor, was it? Hard luck, now the entire world knows what damage he's done to the McCann family, and what they've had to put up with from his deranged supporters.

Hope he squirmed all the way through today's court proceedings as he saw the slender chance he had of winning anything drain away.

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Post  bb1 on Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:41 pm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/10323929/Gerry-McCann-contacted-police-after-abduction-threat-to-twins.html

Gerry McCann contacted police after abduction threat to twins
Gerry McCann was forced to contact police after threats were made to kidnap one of their twins by vigilantes, inspired by a detective’s book on the case, in a bid to find out what really happened, a court heard.

By Claire Carter5:12PM BST 20 Sep 2013
Some of the threats against the couple and their twins, Sean and Amelie, were so “disturbing” that Michael Wright, a close friend of the family, didn’t want to tell Kate McCann.
A court in Lisbon heard that the release of a book which implicated the McCann’s in Madeleine’s disappearance in 2007 sparked suggestions by vigilantes about abducting one of the twins to find out the truth. Mr McCann eventually contacted police over the threats.
Michael Wright monitored internet activity after Madeleine was abducted from a holiday apartment in Portugal and said forums exploded after Goncalo Amaral, a former policeman and head of the investigation, published his book The Truth of the Lie.
He told the court: “There were several instances of inciting forum members to abduct one of the twins as they felt they could throw some light on what had happened. On the ‘The 3 Arguidos’ forum there was a thread of great length where one member was suggesting that someone should abduct Sean or Amelie as they would be able to confirm Mr Amaral’s theory.”
Gerry McCann contacted Leicestershire Police about the threats and Mr Wright was interviewed at his home in Skipton, Yorkshire by officers.

Mr Wright said he was concerned about the twins being able to read about the allegations on the internet after Amelie McCann had already found her name through an online search.
He told the court how he and his wife, Kate’s cousin Anne-Marie Wright, had spent the weekend with the McCann’s on the second anniversary of Madeleine’s disappearance. This followed a documentary broadcast on Portuguese TV channel TVI in April 2009.
He said: “The weekend we all spent together was horrible. They arrived at the cottage having received phone calls from friends they had made in Praia da Luz telling them that people were tearing down posters we had put up saying ‘we know what happened. The child is dead.´
“That news had a terrible impact. To hear that people were accepting the thesis of the book caused them huge, visible distress and great anger.”
Around 2.2 mllion people in Portugal watched the documentary – leading Mr McCann to admit to his friend that for the first time he felt he could not go on.
Mr Wright told the court: “Both he and Kate are very strong and driven people and for two years they had been dealing with the disappearance of their daughter, the media backlash, being made arguido… Through all this they had led the rest of the family and other people in helping find Madeleine. So to hear G Talk about it being too much to carry on and to see him almost broken was a great shock.”

The McCann's are suing Amaral, his publishers Guerra & Paz, TVI and filmmakers VC Filmes for libel and damages equivalent to £1million.
The book sold 120,000 copies until an injunction filed by the McCann’s removed it from bookshops. The injunction was later lifted when the court ruling was overturned.
The trial is due finish hearing evidence in November.

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Post  bb1 on Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:45 pm

I suggest the McCann-haters stop kidding themselves that none of this happened; they can rest assured, copies of the relevant material will all have been entered in evidence.

And dated AFTER Gonzo's nasty comic came out.

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Post  bb1 on Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:49 pm

Gonc's demand for €80,000:

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id233.html

The cost of a Madeleine interview Sky News

By Martin Brunt
May 06, 2009 1:27 PM

If you were wondering why there was no interview with former Algarve police chief Goncalo Amaral in our recent Madeleine coverage, here's why.

His agent emailed us: "Since he left Policia Judiciaria his main concern is to reveal to the general public the facts (which) occured during the investigation."

Then he wrote: "He will be available, but will charge a fee of 80.000 euros VAT."

Yeah, we wondered if he meant 80 euros, too.

We didn't wonder for long.

Nem pensar, Jose!

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Post  lily on Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:59 pm

bb1 wrote:I suggest the McCann-haters stop kidding themselves that none of this happened; they can rest assured, copies of the relevant material will all have been entered in evidence.

And dated AFTER Gonzo's nasty comic came out.
Now we know why Gonc tried to have the hearings in camera. He didn't want what was heard yesterday and today to be public knowledge.
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Post  lily on Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:04 pm

bb1 wrote:The McCann-haters are all screeching like vampires dowsed with Holy Water just now - don't think they ever expected any of their dirty deeds to come to light, especially under these circumstances.

At least their vile, hateful posts have been put to good use - demonstrating just how much damage Gonzo has done. I hope someone reminds the court that he was a member of 3a himself.....

I wonder how much money Humpty, Laffin, Luz and co have cost Gonc today? Lots, I hope.

I have wanted to say this for ages.

The haters had better stock up on toilet paper and immodium. They are going to be running out.
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Post  bb1 on Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:05 pm

Marina Johnson ‏@beemmjay2011 3h
What does this have to do with libel? Gerry #McCann contacted police after abduction threat to twins via @Telegraph http://fw.to/K9Wc0N


You know, none of them seem to grasp what the case is about; that's what comes of swallowing the Team Gonc Kool-Aid for years.

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Post  bb1 on Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:06 pm

The haters had better stock up on toilet paper and immodium.

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl 

Wonder how many of them have locked themselves in the toilet for the night? Pcorneater 

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Post  lily on Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:12 pm

bb1 wrote:The haters had better stock up on toilet paper and immodium.

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl 

Wonder how many of them have locked themselves in the toilet for the night? Pcorneater 
Oh, a good one or two, Bonny. It might be better than sitting on a bedpan all night. Especially if they don't sleep alone. Eek 

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl 
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Post  crazytony on Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:13 pm

I am still going through my albums and I will find bumpty's kidnap post. Got to go out but will get back to it later.

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Post  lily on Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:15 pm

hug  for you Tony.
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Post  bb1 on Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:17 pm

I have it, but sadly, it's on one of my dead puters, Tony. Thankfully, you're a bit better organised than me. smile 

I am laughing at the McCann-haters desperately trying to comfort themselves with nonsense like:

I used to go on 3A s I really cannot remember anything related to kidnapping one of the twins. surely they must have screen shots or something to stand in a court and say it.

Of course 'they' do - do these idiots seriously imagine it hasn't all been entered into evidence so the judge can see for herself? Screenshots, threads, etc?

And they needn't bother trying to pretend they saw none of this, it happened repeatedly, all around them. And still is happening on some sites.

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Post  lily on Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:23 pm

Some of them are really going to be worried like you cannot believe. Oh well. They enjoyed it at the time. biggrin 
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Post  Pedro Silva on Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:33 pm

truly despicable, but, this is what to expect from the **** called gonçalo amaral with his followers.

the **** called gonçalo amaral stinks, the same can be said about his insane followers.
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Post  bb1 on Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:43 pm

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Re: Daily Mail/'Anti-McCann' websites plotted to kidnap one of Madeleine's siblings 'to find out what they knew about her disappearance', court hears
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I would also like the date 3A's closed to compare it to the publication date of the book if anyone has it


Book publication - from a Gonc Support Site:

http://goncaloamaral.webs.com/

July 2008 - the 24th, I seem to recall?

Collapse of 3A following the Rothely Stalking:

20th August 2009

The date is on the screenshot after it went down the gurgler:



I have no doubt all this and more has been entered as evidence and passed to the judge.

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