Kate McCann Asks To Give Evidence

November 5th? I thought it would be decided this month, in a day or two. why to wait for November 5th?

I know that there are often delays and continuances in other countries but really, what a bizarre way to conduct trials.

sounds as stupid as the rest of their legal professions.

bizarre indeed. I agree with you lily, rhodes, weird, even when other witnesses have been listened, or are being listened, I don´t understand why the delay, very weird.

No offence to Portugal, Pedro, but I've never seen a shambles like it before in a courtroom.

bb1, your words are mine.

perhaps that is why due this type of behavior in relation to the courts in Portugal, which many processes are unresolved, they are being postponed, with time passing, and processes are accumulating, gaining dust inside the archives of the courts. maybe the judges are waiting for the processes to be solved by themselves, without judges involved.

I see a lot of complaints in the Portuguese media about the justice system, Pedro, and I can quite understand it. This is unfathomable to anyone used to the efficiency (in comparison) of the UK and US.

Look how quickly Bennett was dealt with when his sorry butt was finally dragged into court!

The whole world is seeing how inefficient the system is.

bb1, lily, big true.

Sorry to have to say it Pedro. This is no reflection on you at all.

we know that there are no perfect systems, but, this type of system stinks. it is a common behaviour in Portugal to delay, waiting for the crimes to be prescribed, instead of being properly resolved and fast.

I know lily.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2449861/Kate-McCann-mother-Madeleine-tells-libel-hearing-wants-defend-court-smears-Portuguese-police-over.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

Kate McCann tells libel hearing she wants to defend herself in court against ‘smears’ made against her by Portuguese police
Kate McCann has requested permission to defend herself in libel case
Gerry McCann has also expressed a wish to speak during trial
Family is suing Goncaro Amaral over book The Truth of the Lie
Police chief claimed the McCanns hid Madeleine's body after she died in an accident then faked her abduction

The tormented mother of Madeleine McCann has said she wants to defend herself in open court for the first time against Portuguese police 'smears' over her daughter's disappearance.
Kate McCann has asked a judge for permission to address a libel trial brought after a controversial book suggested the McCanns may have hidden their daughter's body and staged an abduction.
The author of The Truth Of The Lie is ex-police chief Goncalo Amaral, 56, who was tasked with investigating Madeleine's May 2007 disappearance.
Kate's husband Gerry and Mr Amaral have already applied to speak in the Portuguese court.
Her application, revealed at the libel trial today as former police colleagues of Mr Amaral spoke in his defence, paves the way for an emotional finale to the case.
It comes just days ahead of a new appeal by the McCanns for information on their missing daughter on BBC's Crimewatch which will feature a reconstruction of events in Praia da Luz on May 3 2007.
It is thought Gerry and Kate, 45, will appeal directly to a kidnapper during the programme.
Madeleine's mother flew to Portugal for the start of the libel trial last month - but had left it to friends and relatives to testify before Mr Amaral's side launched its defence.

Judge Maria Emilia Melo e Castro, referring to Kate by her maiden name as she revealed her change of heart, said: 'On October 2 Kate Healy made an application to make a statement to this court

'The court will decide on this application once evidence has been heard by both sides as only then will it be able to judge on the need for and the pertinence of this application.'
If given the go-ahead, the McCanns and Mr Amaral are expected to speak on the same day on or after November 27 when the last hearing in the trial at Lisbon's Palace of Justice is scheduled.
Former colleagues of Mr Amaral's turned up the heat on the McCanns today by insisting nothing he wrote in his July 2008 book was new.
The book was published just three days after the McCanns had their status as suspects over Madeleine's disappearance officially lifted.
Around 120,000 copies were sold before it was withdrawn when the McCanns won an injunction against the ex-police chief.

Portuguese TV station TVI, also being sued by the McCanns along with Mr Amaral's book publishers, broadcast a controversial documentary based on the book in April 2009.
Former family liaison officer Ricardo Paiva told the court: 'What is in the book is based on our investigation and contains the professional and personal opinions of Goncalo Amaral as a police officer.
'Everything that is there can be found in the case files.'
Contradicting earlier claims by the McCanns' family and friends that Mr Amaral's book had hindered their search for their daughter by turning the Portuguese public against them, he added: 'The flow of information continued to come in regularly.
'Neither this book or any other book affected the flow of information.'
Luis Neves, head of a national police unit tasked with investigating organised crime, including kidnappings, said Mr Amaral's conclusion Madeleine was dead was an idea accepted early on by her parents.
He insisted Kate was the driving force behind a failed July 2007 search for Madeleine by controversial ex-south African detective Danie Krugel, who claimed to have invented a machine which could locate a body if provided with a DNA sample.
Neves said the reservations he felt over Mr Krugel were shared by colleagues about sniffer dogs supplied by British police which went on to smell the 'scent of death' in the McCanns' holiday apartment and place a huge question mark over the hypothesis Madeleine was kidnapped.
The performance of the dogs was later called into question after they also reacted to remains at Haut de la Garenne orphanage in Jersey, which were later found to be animal bones.

Mr Neves told the court: 'The McCanns convinced us we should bring in the south African man with his equipment.
'We didn't want to place any obstacles in the way and so the investigating officers eventually allowed it.
'It was during this part of the investigation our British colleagues said there was a team made up of dogs and their handlers that could help us to find out where the child could be buried.
'It was from then on that the Algarve police division decided to allow the dogs to come and the idea of Madeleine's death began to form and things took another direction.
'I know the suggestion of the dogs was not accepted lightly.
'We had no experience of it in Portugal and the cost was another factor.'
Retired police officer Francisco Moita Flores, now a TV commentator, described the Madeleine McCann investigation as one of the 'most complex and well-investigated cases' he had had ever seen and called Mr Amaral 'competent.'
He insisted the Tapas Nine - the McCanns and the friends dining with them at a tapas bar near their apartment the night Madeleine disappeared - should have had their phones tapped because of 'inconsistencies' in their statements.
Attacking the ongoing Home Office-funded Met Police investigation into Madeleine's disappearance, called Operation Grange, he told the court: 'There's a prophetic and dogmatic vision behind it.
'These detectives are only putting forward the hypothesis of abduction.'
Judge Maria Emilio Melo e Castro stopped lawyers on both sides asking Mr Amaral's former police colleagues what they thought about his conclusions on Madeleine and her parents in his book because they were 'opinions' and not 'facts.'

She waved the book in her hand as she demanded to know from Ricardo Paiva: 'The back cover says it contains exclusive revelations.
'What's new in the book that's not in the police files?'
Told by Mr Paiva, 'Nothing', she replied: 'Ok, so then I have to conclude this is misleading advertising.'
Another defence witness, Mr Amaral's ex-number two Vitor Tavares de Almeida, was bizarrely dismissed after being asked just one question.
The police chief, still a serving officer despite being convicted in January of torturing a crime suspect and receiving a two and a half suspended jail sentence, has previously claimed he believes the McCanns concealed Madeleine's body.
He was overheard on a video link muttering: 'What am I doing here?' before being sent away after admitting he had only read the final two pages of Mr Amaral's book.
Mr Amaral denies defamation. The case continues.


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Oh dear, the Gonc fan club won't like that.       

Luis Neves, head of a national police unit tasked with investigating organised crime, including kidnappings, said Mr Amaral's conclusion Madeleine was dead was an idea accepted early on by her parents.

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And that is liable to come back and bite him on the bum bigtime, because it isn't actually true. What on earth made him come out with such nonsense? Cristovao got a dossier on him or something?

Another defence witness, Mr Amaral's ex-number two Vitor Tavares de Almeida, was bizarrely dismissed after being asked just one question.
The police chief, still a serving officer despite being convicted in January of torturing a crime suspect and receiving a two and a half suspended jail sentence, has previously claimed he believes the McCanns concealed Madeleine's body.
He was overheard on a video link muttering: 'What am I doing here?' before being sent away after admitting he had only read the final two pages of Mr Amaral's book.


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Glad the UK media picked up on that.  

The performance of the dogs was later called into question after they also reacted to remains at Haut de la Garenne orphanage in Jersey, which were later found to be animal bones.

Nice bit of dog-dissing there.

anne guedes ‏@aacg 3 Oct
@Mercedessigue @xklamation Bloggers are the authentic actual potential threat, they're totally free! Luxury of post-modern times!

Free propaganda is still propaganda. Pay peanuts, get monkeys.  

A hounder shrieks:


Re: LIBEL TRIAL DISCUSSION HERE
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IS THIS RIGHT??????

The police chief, still a serving officer despite being convicted in January of torturing a crime suspect and receiving a two and a half suspended jail sentence, has previously claimed he believes the McCanns concealed Madeleine's body.

Yes, absolutely and totally. Just a reminder of what de Almeida did:

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/pena-suspensa-para-dupla-da-pj-condenada-por-tortura

Two and a half years in prison
Suspended sentence for duo PJ convicted of torture
Two chief inspectors of the PJ were sentenced on Friday to two years and six months imprisonment with suspended sentence for torture against the official CP Virgolino Borges, told Lusa the victim's lawyer.



Duo tortured employee CP Virgolino Borges

The news of the sentencing of two inspectors of the Judicial Police was advanced by SIC Notícias.
The collective of judges from the 3rd to the criminal court of Lisbon condemned the torture inspectors Chief Joseph Diamond Santos and Vitor Tavares de Almeida and the payment of a fine of 80 euros / month for the same period, told the Lusa attorney Jerónimo Martins.

Nice man - not. More details here:

http://expresso.sapo.pt/dois-inspetores-da-pj-condenados-por-tortura=f782292

Two inspectors PJ convicted of torture
Lawyer of the victim shows was relieved by the end of a process that has dragged on for 13 years. "From what I understand, it is the first time that such a process leads to the conviction of persons in concrete," says the Express.

Two chief inspectors of the PJ were today sentenced to prison for two and half years, suspended upon payment of a fine in monthly period, for torturing a man's premises DCCB in March 2000. Another element of the PJ was acquitted.

In a judgment of about 40 pages, the Lisbon Criminal Court sentenced the two chief inspectors of the Judicial Police to pay each month, each, the sum of 80 euros for a fund that, in the end revert to the victim, Virgolino Borges, who constituted the wizard process. The decision was known in 3. ª stick, by 14h30.

Jerónimo Martins, lawyer Virgolino Borges, was relieved by the end of a process that has dragged on for 13 years. "From what I understand, it is the first time that such a process leads to the conviction of persons in concrete," he told Express.

The three inspectors - Diamond José dos Santos, Vítor Tavares de Almeida and Antonio Alves da Cunha, were part of the same brigade then Central Directorate for Combating Gangsterism (DCCB). In March 2000, Virgolino Borges was taken to the PJ on suspicion of theft (a process that eventually involved). On days 2 and 3, he complained, was beaten repeatedly with a board and punched in the feet by the inspectors of the PJ.

In a first phase investigation, the prosecutor finally drop the case. At that time, Virgolino consisted assistant and requested the opening statement - that led to the indictment of the three police for the crime of torture, criminal whose frame varies between one and five years in prison.

The two defendants, the Diamond and Tavares de Almeida Santos were convicted of co-authorship and should appeal the conviction.

The three inspectors Judicial, both now convicted and who was acquitted, all remain active.

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As Taveres de Almeida claimed not to know why he was in court, maybe someone should have beaten HIM on the soles of his feet to help him remember, as poetic justice?

J B Littlemore ‏@JBLittlemore 3h
@Dantew28 More of the 'balanced reporting' at last. Covers both sides & what was said. Not bad at all. #Mccann

Yup. It's especially good that the Great British Public now knows that the author of the 'interim report', on which the haters base their campaign, is a convicted torturer who was apparently too befuddled to know where he was or what he was doing there.

A hounder frets:


why didn't Isabel Duare show up on the hearing today, such an important day, Amaral's defensers?

Because it actually wasn't that important a day...she knew what they were going to say, as they've been saying it for years.

She also knew they could be left to stuff up without any input from her.

And so it came to pass.

contradicting insane moita flores: "the Madeleine McCann investigation as one of the  badly-investigated cases'... due to incompetence of liar, torturer, who is also corrupt, called gonçalo amaral, whose true purpose was to gain dirty fame and fortune through his despicable behaviour, to feed his ego, arrogance, lust for celebrity style, which can be proved through the autographs in his book of lies, smears, defamation.

http://www.tvi24.iol.pt/multimedia/oratvi/multimedia/imagem/id/11933149/550

amaral: you stink.

Yup. It's especially good that the Great British Public now knows that the author of the 'interim report', on which the haters base their campaign, is a convicted torturer who was apparently too befuddled to know where he was or what he was doing there.

You bet it's good. Let's people know exactly what kind of a reputable upstanding sort of person he is. One of the stars of the hate brigade.  

Flores is a joke, Pedro, as your countrymen demonstrated by NOT voting for him. All he's got are his ramblings in CdM and his fond memories of the good old days in PIDE. Oh, and bull-fighting.  

Couple of good posts here:

http://stopthemyths.prophpbb.com/post194534.html#p194534

And if Guedes' latest photos are anything to go by, Gonc looks like sh#t. He looks like he should be in hospital - at least they'd wash him and change his clothes. That manky shirt and the grubby jeans are repellent, frankly.