Eddie the infallible?

Oh my goodness. Eddie was shown the coconut shell and reacted as though it was human remains? That is damning.

the sample was
not bone and not human, appearing instead to be
more like part of a large seed casing or part of
something like a small piece of coconut.

And I see there wasn't a 'bath' with 'bloodstains', either.

bb1 wrote: the sample was
not bone and not human, appearing instead to be
more like part of a large seed casing or part of
something like a small piece of coconut.

And I see there wasn't a 'bath' with 'bloodstains', either.

No blood in bath, it was analysed as rust, no skull, just an old coconut shell.
Brilliant dog. Pi$$ poor handler!

The whole Jersey business annoys me, Tony. There may well have been child abuse, in whichever form, occurring there - but no-one will ever know now, thanks to those idiots turning it into a very expensive media circus.

There will never, ever be a professional, calm, investigation after that little lot.

bb1 wrote:The whole Jersey business annoys me, Tony. There may well have been child abuse, in whichever form, occurring there - but no-one will ever know now, thanks to those idiots turning it into a very expensive media circus.

There will never, ever be a professional, calm, investigation after that little lot.

I believe there was abuse Bonny, but there was never a death. Because Grime said his dog indicated the coconut was human remains; the abused children were forgotten, for a murder that never happened.

That's it exactly, Tony - you put it far better than I did.

When, exactly, did this nonsense over Eddie the Wonderdog start? How did he change from being a rather exciteable police dog into a superstar?

It's like some kind of showbiz hype, and it's ridiculous. He didn't even manage to locate the late Mrs Prout - woofing at a carpet when the deceased has been killed and buried elsewhere on the farm isn't really good enough, is it?

bb1 wrote:That's it exactly, Tony - you put it far better than I did.

When, exactly, did this nonsense over Eddie the Wonderdog start? How did he change from being a rather exciteable police dog into a superstar?

It's like some kind of showbiz hype, and it's ridiculous. He didn't even manage to locate the late Mrs Prout - woofing at a carpet when the deceased has been killed and buried elsewhere on the farm isn't really good enough, is it?

No it isn't good enough Bonny. This report really does a great deal of harm to Amaral also.
If the dog mistakes rust for blood, and coconut for cadaver, what the hell can Amaral say now about Madeleine being in the vehicle?

The very idea is, frankly, ridiculous, Tony - that Eddie had to be called back to the car, and was more interested in something half-way up the wall, tells its own story.

That is at least three high-profile cases where Eddie has made matters WORSE. I am sure Prout was delighted at the carpet-woofing, when he knew perfectly well what he had done with the late Mrs Prout - and it didn't involve carpets.

And let us not forget what else Eddie was interested in on Jersey:

http://voiceforprotest.blogspot.com/2010/03/operation-rectangle-summary-report.html

VT / 9 Trench and gun emplacement containing small personnel shelter. Forensic examination revealed recently deposited tissues that appeared to have been used to ‘clean up following sexual intercourse’. It would appear that the shelter had been used as a venue for courting couples. This alert is within the trained parameters of the dog’s repertoire and is a satisfactory explanation of the alert.

bb1 wrote:The very idea is, frankly, ridiculous, Tony - that Eddie had to be called back to the car, and was more interested in something half-way up the wall, tells its own story.

That is at least three high-profile cases where Eddie has made matters WORSE. I am sure Prout was delighted at the carpet-woofing, when he knew perfectly well what he had done with the late Mrs Prout - and it didn't involve carpets.

The mistakes Grime made in the Madeleine case was unforgivable. Having two dogs on site with him as handler to both of them, is a no,no.
Allowing the animal to play with evidence; never been heard of before the McCann case.
I could go on and on but, it is just what everyone with half a brain knew, the moment they viewed the videos.

no dog is infalible, dogs can / do make mistakes, eddie is no exception. A few days ago, at tv, I heard an expert in trained dogs, with this statement: dogs are not reliable, they can / do fail.

I don't think Grime expected quite the circus that he got, and wasn't prepared for it having been used to a more professional approach. But having got it he then used it to his own advantage. Cadaver Dogs were barely heard of at the time, or at least to me.
And neither did he expect someone to ignore his advice about Forensics, or to edit the videos.
He just saw Big Bucks.
It was interesting in itself that he was already preparing to train a very young dog in a more specific way to the way in which Eddie had been trained. Eddie basically was a search and rescue dog, and probably quite good at it, but when a dog is running around a disaster area it is all too easy to confuse injury with death since most of the victims will have been injured before they died.