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Post  bb1 Tue May 29, 2012 10:56 am

I am sure we all remember the horrible fire in Derby recently, in which six children died. It is thought to be arson, and now there have been arrests:

http://www.itv.com/news/story/2012-05-29/derby-house-fire-arrests/

Derby house fire arrests
Detectives investigating a fire in which six children died have arrested a 55-year-old man and a 31-year-old woman on suspicion of murder.
ABOUT 1 MINUTE AGO
Police refuse to reveal identities of arrested pair
by Rupert Evelyn: ITV News Correspondent
Derbyshire Police are refusing to confirm the identities of the two people who were arrested or where they were arrested.


I don't want to jump to conclusions, but those ages match the children's parents.


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Post  greenink211 Tue May 29, 2012 11:48 am

Daily Mail claiming it is the father and mother of the dead children who have been arrested.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2151521/BREAKING-NEWS-Father-mother-children-killed-Derby-house-arrested-murder.html

BREAKING NEWS: Father and mother of six children killed in Derby house fire arrested on suspicion of their murder
By TOM GARDNER
PUBLISHED: 10:55, 29 May 2012 | UPDATED: 11:42, 29 May 2012

The father and mother of six children killed in a house fire were this morning arrested on suspicion of murder.

In a dramatic development, Mick Philpott, 55, and his wife Mairead, 31, are in custody being questioned by detectives about the horrific blaze.
Just two weeks ago the couple, both from Derby, wept uncontrollably at an emotional press conference as officers described how petrol had been poured through the family’s letterbox and set alight.


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Post  bb1 Tue May 29, 2012 12:00 pm

Not much anyone can say to that, really. If it is proven in court that they did it - it's unimaginable, appalling - there aren't the words.

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Post  bb1 Tue May 29, 2012 12:14 pm

Seeking justice ‏@justice4maddie
I just KNEW the house fire parents were doing a " #mccann "



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Post  bb1 Tue May 29, 2012 1:32 pm

More disgusting ghouls:

Always the family
Roasted Arizona Today at 12:50

So, Mick philpott and wife now arrested , not charged, on suspicion of murdering their six kids in that house fire....sad sad sad

e: Always the family
Justiceforallkids Today at 12:54

i saw this and its shocking in jail if they did it they will get beaten to death imo



Is there NOTHING these creatures will not exploit?
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Post  Sabot Wed May 30, 2012 7:42 am


It seems a bit strange. If both parents did this to get a larger house they would not have intended to actually kill the children, would they? And if not, would it still be Murder?
Not that I would wish to excuse them if they did, but what mother in her right mind would agree to such a dangerous and diabolical plan?
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Post  bb1 Wed May 30, 2012 10:32 am

Sabot, I would not be surprised if it turns out they have done something utterly stupid, like setting fire to the front door intending to pretend they were being victimised in the hope of getting another house.

And being utterly stupid, didn't realise how fast the fire would spread.

I don't see them deliberately killing their children so horribly - not that that makes any difference to the consequences.

In passing, it is shocking - though sadly not surprising - that the ghouls are using this as yet another stick to beat the McCanns with.
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Post  Sabot Wed May 30, 2012 10:38 am


As usual, I guess it is best to wait and see what charges are actually brought, if any.

And yes, Bonny, I have noticed The Ghouls. Their ability to link The McCanns to every disaster in the world is truly remarkable. Poor, sick minded sods. What a state to live in.
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Post  bb1 Wed May 30, 2012 2:33 pm

Not much more news:

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16237465

Derby Fire Deaths: More Time To Quiz Parents

Police have been given more time to question the parents of six children killed in an arson attack on their home in Derby.

Mick Philpott, 55, and his wife Mairead, 31, were arrested on suspicion of murder on Tuesday.
Police have already confirmed petrol was used as an accelerant.
Duwayne Philpott, 13, Jade Philpott, 10, and brothers John Philpott, nine, Jack Philpott, seven, Jessie Philpott, six, and Jayden Philpott, five, all died as a result of the fire.
The fire broke out at the house, in Victory Road, Allenton, in the early hours of May 11.
At a news conference earlier Derbyshire Police Assistant Chief Constable Steve Cotterill asked people to come forward with any information about the fire.
"Please don’t see these two arrests as the police inquiry coming to an end, this is not the case," he said.
He had earlier issued a statement in which he said: "I suspect there may still be people with crucial information who have not yet come forward to speak to us.
"They have my personal reassurance that we will deal with their information sensitively.
"We still need information to help us in this inquiry. The latest arrests are just one step further in the investigation."
A 38-year-old man and a 28-year-old woman, who were arrested on suspicion of murder shortly after the fire, were released without charge the following day.
Mr Philpott and his wife faced the media at a news conference five days after the fire.
He repeatedly dabbed his eyes as he thanked those who tried to rescue his children and members of the local community for their support.
Talking to reporters for about two and a half minutes, Mr Philpott repeatedly paused to compose himself and said he and his wife had decided to donate Duwayne's organs for transplant.
Tributes and gifts, which remain outside the house more than two weeks after the fire, are being moved with the family's agreement.


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God help them if they started the fire; no-one else will.

We're probably best not to speculate too much; internet gossip has nearly wrecked one or two high-profile cases recently.
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Post  Sabot Wed May 30, 2012 2:59 pm


Yep. Definitely best not to speculate because we simply do not know. And it surely must be obvious by now that this is not a good idea.
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Post  bb1 Wed May 30, 2012 9:19 pm

It's just coming through now that they have been charged with murder. If that is indeed the case, and is proven in court to be so - then I really don't think there is any punishment on the statute book that covers something so evil.
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Post  bb1 Wed May 30, 2012 9:37 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-18261680

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The parents of six children who died in a house fire in Derby have been charged with their murders.

Jade Philpott, 10, and brothers John, nine, Jack, eight, Jessie, six and Jayden, five, died in the house fire on Victory Road on 11 May.

Another brother, Duwayne, 13, died three days later in hospital.

Mick Philpott, 55, and his wife Mairead, 31, are due to appear before Southern Derbyshire Magistrates' Court on Thursday morning.

Derbyshire Police's Assistant Chief Constable Steve Cotterill said: "Following the appeal yesterday a number of people have come forward with more information but I want to stress that the two charges this evening should not be seen as the end of the investigation.

"We are determined to get to the truth of what happened and still want people to speak to us to tell us what they know about this tragedy."
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Post  bb1 Wed May 30, 2012 9:42 pm

This report is odd:

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16238669

Derby Fire Deaths: Parents Charged With Murder

9:28pm UK, Wednesday May 30, 2012
The parents of six children killed in an arson attack on their home in Derby have been charged with murder.

Derbyshire Police had arrested Mick Philpott, 55, and his wife Mairead, 31, on suspicion of murder on Tuesday.
The pair will appear before Southern Derbyshire Magistrates' Court on Thursday morning.
A Crown Prosecution Service spokesman said: "The evidence was reviewed by a Crown Advocate from the CPS East Midlands Complex Casework Unit, who decided that there was sufficient evidence to charge and that it is in the public interest for a prosecution to take place.
"It is important to note that the defendants are entitled to a fair trial and nothing should be said or reported that would prejudice that right."
More follows...
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Post  bb1 Wed May 30, 2012 10:13 pm

Let's hope we are going to be spared any more remarks like:

omg 6 children died in a fire the house was firebombed!!!
Justiceforallkids on Wed 16 May 2012, 2:40 pm

all because the dad had 17 kids and is on welfare at least these parents were at home with their kids!!!unlike some peoplewe know they were not down at the pub!!!!


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Post  Rose Thu May 31, 2012 9:27 am

Disgusting SteelMagnolia

http://steelmagnolia-steelmagnolia.blogspot.com/2012/05/mccann-legacy-seven-dead-children.html?spref=tw


Thursday, May 31, 2012
The #McCann Legacy : Seven Dead Children.
Note: Mick Philpott just like Gerry McCann loves the camera the attention and both fancy themselves as celebrities . Both , famous for all the wrong reasons, dead children, both are criminals. Within days the Philpot family opened a webpage asking for donations to pay for their childrens funerals, to build a new house and support them through this tragic time. Not a lot of difference is there except the McCanns have corrupt politicians protecting them.The Philpots did not realize that !


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Post  bb1 Thu May 31, 2012 9:34 am

Sadly, there is a lot of that going on in hateland today, Rose. IMO, it is beyond sick, and yet more proof - not that it is needed - that these creatures see everything in the world in relation to the McCanns.

It is also beyond sick that they are using the deaths of six children as yet another excuse to abuse the McCanns.

Mind you, who cares what that fraud Ironside says about anything?
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Post  Sabot Thu May 31, 2012 10:06 am


I am thinking that if The Philpotts set fire to the house to get a larger house then they deliberately put their children at risk. Deliberate Endangerment is not Manslaughter, so therefor it must be Murder to some degree. This would explain a Murder Charge.
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Post  Rose Thu May 31, 2012 10:12 am

Well IMO:

Public opinion partly stems from opinion makers? UK has a number of, just IMO, bizarre TV personalities with sometimes shocking agressive reactionary right views, with the purpose to influencce a less critical audience that is 'forced" (because it is decent???) to accept uncritically their views as standard norm and act to that. And I put that mildly.
UK: example Jeremy Kyle

US too: Dr.Phil: Dr.Phil sets the standard. There is no room for a more nuanced view on things: The only positive thing about his show is that it goes beyond a TV program with high ratings, he actually tries to help his guests with continued assistance, though we never see any outcome of that. That makes him a hero and easy to swollow his narrow mind views.

Not me tho...

Mick Philpott on Jeremy Kyle show - Man who's 6 children dies died in fire




Derby house fire father Mick Philpott holds emotional press conference

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Post  bb1 Thu May 31, 2012 10:17 am

Ah yes, I see what you mean, Sabot. I genuinely cannot believe they set out to kill their children - not that that makes one bit of difference to the consequences, the children are just as dead.
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Post  Rose Thu May 31, 2012 10:22 am

SkyNewsBreak2 mins on Twitter

Michael and Mairead Philpott remanded in custody charged with murder of their six children in a house fire Derby.



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Post  bb1 Thu May 31, 2012 10:24 am

Public opinion partly stems from opinion makers? UK has a number of, just IMO, bizarre TV personalities with sometimes shocking agressive reactionary right views, with the purpose to influencce a less critical audience that is 'forced" (because it is decent???) to accept uncritically their views as standard norm and act to that.

I am delighted to say I don't watch them, Rose. Or reality TV. Or celebrity dancing talent on ice or any of the other carp a fair percentage of the population is fascinated with.

I know what you mean, though - the Hang 'em and flog 'em, let's not bother with a trial brigade is as well represented on Braindead TV as it is on the sites that hate the McCann family. IMo, it is very telling that so many forkers and hounders are drawn to the far Right.
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Post  bb1 Thu May 31, 2012 10:28 am

Rose wrote:SkyNewsBreak2 mins on Twitter

Michael and Mairead Philpott remanded in custody charged with murder of their six children in a house fire Derby.




Thanks, Rose. I swear the ghouls are actually enjoying 'discussing' this - which translates as, posting the kind of material which causes cases to be dropped because the accused cannot get a fair trial, and blaming the McCanns.

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Post  bb1 Thu May 31, 2012 10:35 am

According to the Breaking News feed on Sky, there has been some kind of trouble in the court.

Just what ISN'T needed.
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Post  bb1 Thu May 31, 2012 10:48 am

It is very noticeable that, not only have the forkers and ghouls merrily siezed on the deaths of six children as a stick to beat the McCanns with.

They are also ignoring the fact that Mick Philpott has ELEVEN other children. Not one forker or ghoul has given the slightest thought to how they must be feeling right this minute, seeing their father facing these charges.
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Post  bb1 Thu May 31, 2012 1:48 pm

Re: Philpotts
Justiceforallkids Today at 1:42 pm

Oldartform wrote:

Justiceforallkids wrote:
imo slow in this case or not it is not a excuse they had the intellegence to know that to light petrol on fire would burn etc and they knew the kids were in the house and that fire burns/smoke kills jmo



Yes you`d think so wouldn`t you, but the alternative cause or motive is just too awful to contemplate. I just can`t accept that anyone would kill so many of their own children. Its hard to accept that anyone would kill one or even two of their own children but mass paedocide by parents is incomprehensible.


agree and notice none of the pros are saying the parents are innocent???

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And when she has finished, yet again, making it all about her, via burnt muffins and her sister's contraceptive problems, all that attention-seeking little nowt cares about is what 'pros' are saying. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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