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If he is so interested in the case you would have thought that he would have discussed the files with others on a forum.
And what makes them think he hasn't? There are a good few haters from SA, he could be any one of them.
And their knowledge of The Case is no better than his anyway, which is why he has made such a fool of himself.
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It was fascinating, the way the less-stupid forkers realised almost at once that it was physically impossible for Birch's claims to be true, while the rest of them suddenly became experts on lime.....anything rather than face the fact that they had been played for fools yet again.
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I agree with all posters above that it can not be ignored. Not only for Maddie, but for all we know it could be another person's remains.
What? Do they think Robert Murat is a serial killer, or something, to have bodies on his property?
Why can they not see that it is physically impossible for this phoney's claims to be true?
I agree with all posters above that it can not be ignored. Not only for Maddie, but for all we know it could be another person's remains.
What? Do they think Robert Murat is a serial killer, or something, to have bodies on his property?
Why can they not see that it is physically impossible for this phoney's claims to be true?
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@urcrazytoo Do you have evidence that Amaral thinks he (Birch) "is full of sh1t!"? - I must have missed that article re #McCann
I thought she hung on Amaral's every word - how come she managed to miss his TV appearance when he dismissed this garbage?
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*sigh* Morais is back, churning out the same old, same old - ie, days' old Cart of Muck anti-McCann drivel.
We've already seen that, so no need to repeat it. Only thing of interest is this report from the paper version of DN.
Caveat emptor - it's one of her translations, so may not be accurate and may well have been 'interpreted' to suit agendas.
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2012/07/robert-murat-likely-to-sue-south.html
Robert Murat likely to sue South African businessman
8 JULY 2012 | POSTED BY JOANA MORAIS
by José Manuel Oliveira
Robert Murat may sue the South African businessman Stephen Birch for trespassing on private property after the latter publicly assumed that he had entered in the garden of Murat's house in Praia da Luz, near Lagos, whenever Robert went out, in order to inspect the terrain with a georadar through which Birch claims to have located the place where the cadaver of Madeleine McCann, who disappeared in May 2007, is hidden.
“We are looking at what was said, analysing the statements that were made and then I will have a meeting with my client so we can make a decision. Suing is a situation to consider, it remains an open hypothesis”, said Francisco Pagarete, Robert Murat's lawyer to DN.
The Anglo-Portuguese citizen, and former real estate agent ended up being constituted as arguido with Declaration of Identity and Residence [Termo de Identidade e Residência]1, just like Maddie's parents were, on suspicion of involvement in the disappearance of the British child, following the investigations of the Judiciary Police, which included at the time excavations in parts of Murat's garden, where nothing was found.
Meanwhile, other lawyers guaranteed to DN that if the lawsuit now being considered does take place, “at most, in the worst case scenario” the South African “could be punished with the obligation of having to pay a fine of four hundred euro for the invasion of a private property”.
“This is a complicated process, in which the individual, who now states that he has entered the garden to try to find out where the supposed body of Maddie is, could, later on, deny that version. And to be able to punish that man, Murat would have to prove what he did. On the other hand, while living in South Africa he would only have to come to Portugal to present himself in a court2 if he wished to do so”, argued one of the lawyers heard by DN, adding that there are several examples similar to this case.
Diário de Notícias, July 7, 2012, paper edition
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Note all the weasel words like 'may', and unnamed other lawyers who 'guaranteed' - which generally translates as, A mate of mine in the pub said....
The comments contain half-witted remarks like,
Why did he not sue Jane Tanner for swearing under oath that he had abducted Madeleine.
That would be because she did no such thing. That was a total fiction spread by assorted members of Team Gonc, and Big Rock himself.
It simply didn't happen.
We've already seen that, so no need to repeat it. Only thing of interest is this report from the paper version of DN.
Caveat emptor - it's one of her translations, so may not be accurate and may well have been 'interpreted' to suit agendas.
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2012/07/robert-murat-likely-to-sue-south.html
Robert Murat likely to sue South African businessman
8 JULY 2012 | POSTED BY JOANA MORAIS
by José Manuel Oliveira
Robert Murat may sue the South African businessman Stephen Birch for trespassing on private property after the latter publicly assumed that he had entered in the garden of Murat's house in Praia da Luz, near Lagos, whenever Robert went out, in order to inspect the terrain with a georadar through which Birch claims to have located the place where the cadaver of Madeleine McCann, who disappeared in May 2007, is hidden.
“We are looking at what was said, analysing the statements that were made and then I will have a meeting with my client so we can make a decision. Suing is a situation to consider, it remains an open hypothesis”, said Francisco Pagarete, Robert Murat's lawyer to DN.
The Anglo-Portuguese citizen, and former real estate agent ended up being constituted as arguido with Declaration of Identity and Residence [Termo de Identidade e Residência]1, just like Maddie's parents were, on suspicion of involvement in the disappearance of the British child, following the investigations of the Judiciary Police, which included at the time excavations in parts of Murat's garden, where nothing was found.
Meanwhile, other lawyers guaranteed to DN that if the lawsuit now being considered does take place, “at most, in the worst case scenario” the South African “could be punished with the obligation of having to pay a fine of four hundred euro for the invasion of a private property”.
“This is a complicated process, in which the individual, who now states that he has entered the garden to try to find out where the supposed body of Maddie is, could, later on, deny that version. And to be able to punish that man, Murat would have to prove what he did. On the other hand, while living in South Africa he would only have to come to Portugal to present himself in a court2 if he wished to do so”, argued one of the lawyers heard by DN, adding that there are several examples similar to this case.
Diário de Notícias, July 7, 2012, paper edition
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Note all the weasel words like 'may', and unnamed other lawyers who 'guaranteed' - which generally translates as, A mate of mine in the pub said....
The comments contain half-witted remarks like,
Why did he not sue Jane Tanner for swearing under oath that he had abducted Madeleine.
That would be because she did no such thing. That was a total fiction spread by assorted members of Team Gonc, and Big Rock himself.
It simply didn't happen.
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Vile ghoul:
Eric said... 22
Why doesn't some wealthy TV channel just turn up and give the owners silly money to get specialists to dig it up? I'm sure if conducted live it would be watched. Unless their is a law against offering someone money to dig small hole in their garden.
Anyway, that's what I would do.
Sick, sub-human scumbag. This is just entertainment to the haters and forkers, a diversion from Big Brother Strictly X factor, or whatever garbage they fill their 'minds' with.
IMO, this was an attempt by one faction of the haters to manipulate Madeleine's parents into generating bad publicity just ahead of a couple of trials.
Sadly for them, it hasn't worked, and Robert Murat so far has had the good sense not to give into blackmail.
And if anyone doubted that the forkers, hounders, haters and ghouls hate Madeleine McCann just as much as they do the rest of her family - well, they have provided ample proof over the last few days.
They have been dribbling on their keyboards at the idea of her remains being dug up in Murat's garden, live on telly. Their lives are going to be ruined when, hopefully, Porto PJ and the Yard find her alive and well.
Vultures, the whole damned lot of them.
Eric said... 22
Why doesn't some wealthy TV channel just turn up and give the owners silly money to get specialists to dig it up? I'm sure if conducted live it would be watched. Unless their is a law against offering someone money to dig small hole in their garden.
Anyway, that's what I would do.
Sick, sub-human scumbag. This is just entertainment to the haters and forkers, a diversion from Big Brother Strictly X factor, or whatever garbage they fill their 'minds' with.
IMO, this was an attempt by one faction of the haters to manipulate Madeleine's parents into generating bad publicity just ahead of a couple of trials.
Sadly for them, it hasn't worked, and Robert Murat so far has had the good sense not to give into blackmail.
And if anyone doubted that the forkers, hounders, haters and ghouls hate Madeleine McCann just as much as they do the rest of her family - well, they have provided ample proof over the last few days.
They have been dribbling on their keyboards at the idea of her remains being dug up in Murat's garden, live on telly. Their lives are going to be ruined when, hopefully, Porto PJ and the Yard find her alive and well.
Vultures, the whole damned lot of them.
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More blackmail on the Morais blog:
Anonymous said... 21
Never mind getting PGR or any authority`s permission, its Jenny Murat`s property, her garden, why doesn`t she just get in touch with Mr. Birch, discover the exact spot and then get someone to bring a shovel round and dig. And if Robert is innocent why doesn`t he get his shovel out and dig? Anyone who is innocent will want that garden dug. Anyone who doesn`t want it dug, is automatically suspect imo.
Yes, but who cares what a pitchforking vulture who regards this as entertainment thinks?
Anonymous said... 21
Never mind getting PGR or any authority`s permission, its Jenny Murat`s property, her garden, why doesn`t she just get in touch with Mr. Birch, discover the exact spot and then get someone to bring a shovel round and dig. And if Robert is innocent why doesn`t he get his shovel out and dig? Anyone who is innocent will want that garden dug. Anyone who doesn`t want it dug, is automatically suspect imo.
Yes, but who cares what a pitchforking vulture who regards this as entertainment thinks?
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My comments to the others who think the police should dig up everyone's yard on the say so of some psychic or nutcase....this would be irresponsible and a violation of citizen's rights. One has to have a thing called "probable cause" to go searching people's property.
And that is one of the few sensible things she has ever said.
My comments to the others who think the police should dig up everyone's yard on the say so of some psychic or nutcase....this would be irresponsible and a violation of citizen's rights. One has to have a thing called "probable cause" to go searching people's property.
And that is one of the few sensible things she has ever said.
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And if Robert is innocent why doesn`t he get his shovel out and dig?
Can you imagine what would be said if he did any such thing?
The AG has dismissed this crap, the ghouls will have to go back to watching Jeremy Kyle for their entertainment.
Can you imagine what would be said if he did any such thing?
The AG has dismissed this crap, the ghouls will have to go back to watching Jeremy Kyle for their entertainment.
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That's it now. Forget about Eddie The Wonder Dog. If The McCanns and Robert Murat don't get out there digging they must be guilty. So all of the theories they lived and breathed for the last five years are now out of the window.
I wonder how long it will be before they go back to dissecting them again.
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I may be wrong here, but, can Robert Murat sue Birch?
After all its NOT his property, its Jenny Murats.
After all its NOT his property, its Jenny Murats.
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Yes, Sabot, that's the way it is being spun by them - Murat and the McCanns are IN IT, have been all along.
They really are vile, cruel people:
Why can't someone in PdL just ask Jenny Murat if she minds if her path is checked to see if there is anything there. I'm sure it can be restored to her satisfaction. No big deal , is it?
Well yes, it is, actually. How bloody dare they do this to an elderly woman? If the Murats give in to this blackmail once, they will never know a minute's peace.
Every whackjob forker will think they are entitled to dig up the Murats' property whenever the Voices tell them to.
The Portuguese authorities have laid it on the line. That should be the end of it.
And if the forkers and hounders are now so far gone, they aren't even listening to the AG, then here is a picture for them to explain it all:
http://thehoundingofthemccans.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/it-would-appear-some-of-hate-mccann.html
The Portuguese police officers are standing just where Birch was playing with his toy.
Are the forkers and hounders now saying they failed to notice a decomposing body less than 24'' beneath their feet?
Well, they must be, if they are demanding that the Murats dig up their path to entertain them.
They really are vile, cruel people:
Why can't someone in PdL just ask Jenny Murat if she minds if her path is checked to see if there is anything there. I'm sure it can be restored to her satisfaction. No big deal , is it?
Well yes, it is, actually. How bloody dare they do this to an elderly woman? If the Murats give in to this blackmail once, they will never know a minute's peace.
Every whackjob forker will think they are entitled to dig up the Murats' property whenever the Voices tell them to.
The Portuguese authorities have laid it on the line. That should be the end of it.
And if the forkers and hounders are now so far gone, they aren't even listening to the AG, then here is a picture for them to explain it all:
http://thehoundingofthemccans.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/it-would-appear-some-of-hate-mccann.html
The Portuguese police officers are standing just where Birch was playing with his toy.
Are the forkers and hounders now saying they failed to notice a decomposing body less than 24'' beneath their feet?
Well, they must be, if they are demanding that the Murats dig up their path to entertain them.
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Maggs wrote:I may be wrong here, but, can Robert Murat sue Birch?
After all its NOT his property, its Jenny Murats.
I would think he can, Maggs, as it isn't Mrs Murat he pointed his finger at.
Birch is a moron, anyway. Why on earth he thinks that that is a 'second driveway' when it's clearly just a back garden path escapes me.
I suppose 'second driveway' sounds more melodramatic and ghoulish.
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if Murat and the McCanns are innocent of any wrong doings isn't this perfect to show the world what this guy is
It's a modern version of throwing supposed witches into rivers, isn't it?
Here's the thing, NOTHING would satisfy these freaks. I would like to see this Birch character in court. He's the one who threw mud and caused all this, he can explain himself to a judge.
It's a modern version of throwing supposed witches into rivers, isn't it?
Here's the thing, NOTHING would satisfy these freaks. I would like to see this Birch character in court. He's the one who threw mud and caused all this, he can explain himself to a judge.
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And here comes the blackmail:
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2012/07/south-african-businessman-challenges.html
South African businessman challenges Robert Murat
8 JULY 2012 | POSTED BY JOANA MORAIS LEAVE A COMMENT
“He should allow excavations at the site”
by João Mira Godinho
Stephen Birch, the South African that guarantees to have found indicia that Madeleine McCann is buried in Robert Murat's garden, challenges the Briton: “If he has nothing to fear, he should allow the place to be excavated”
In statements made to Correio da Manhã, Birch ensures that, after the hole is made in the terrain, “everything would be restored” .
“That would clear all doubts”, argues the South African, that by means of a georadar machine detected variations in the subsoil in an area of Murat's garden, in Praia da Luz. The place is, according to Birch, in “the area of a cement pavement, that was added after the child's disappearance” in May 2007.
The challenge made by the South African businessman comes after the McCann family's lawyer defended that the authorities should investigate the leads provided by Birch. “The family does not investigate. What the family expects is for the police to take a position on this matter, to verify the site," said the lawyer Rogério Alves, who defends Kate and Gerry McCann, to CM.
Meanwhile, to substantiate his theory, Stepehn Birch uploaded a video where he appears analysing, with the georadar, the terrain of Murat's villa in Praia da Luz. The businessman shows, in the divulged footage, the results obtained by his private investigation and explains what led him to conclude that Maddie is buried in that garden. In the video shows an image obtained with the georadar at the terrain “where it is clear that there is a cavity, bellow the driveway, and in that cavity is an object”. The “image shows that the soil was disturbed with a spade”.
in Correio da Manhã, July 8, 2012, online edition
Yes, we know the soil was disturbed with a spade.
WE'VE GOT A PHOTO OF A COUPLE OF PORTUGUESE POLICE OFFICERS DOING THE DISTURBING WITH SPADES
This piece of merde needs brought into court to explain himself - and reveal who else is involved in this disgusting scam.
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2012/07/south-african-businessman-challenges.html
South African businessman challenges Robert Murat
8 JULY 2012 | POSTED BY JOANA MORAIS LEAVE A COMMENT
“He should allow excavations at the site”
by João Mira Godinho
Stephen Birch, the South African that guarantees to have found indicia that Madeleine McCann is buried in Robert Murat's garden, challenges the Briton: “If he has nothing to fear, he should allow the place to be excavated”
In statements made to Correio da Manhã, Birch ensures that, after the hole is made in the terrain, “everything would be restored” .
“That would clear all doubts”, argues the South African, that by means of a georadar machine detected variations in the subsoil in an area of Murat's garden, in Praia da Luz. The place is, according to Birch, in “the area of a cement pavement, that was added after the child's disappearance” in May 2007.
The challenge made by the South African businessman comes after the McCann family's lawyer defended that the authorities should investigate the leads provided by Birch. “The family does not investigate. What the family expects is for the police to take a position on this matter, to verify the site," said the lawyer Rogério Alves, who defends Kate and Gerry McCann, to CM.
Meanwhile, to substantiate his theory, Stepehn Birch uploaded a video where he appears analysing, with the georadar, the terrain of Murat's villa in Praia da Luz. The businessman shows, in the divulged footage, the results obtained by his private investigation and explains what led him to conclude that Maddie is buried in that garden. In the video shows an image obtained with the georadar at the terrain “where it is clear that there is a cavity, bellow the driveway, and in that cavity is an object”. The “image shows that the soil was disturbed with a spade”.
in Correio da Manhã, July 8, 2012, online edition
Yes, we know the soil was disturbed with a spade.
WE'VE GOT A PHOTO OF A COUPLE OF PORTUGUESE POLICE OFFICERS DOING THE DISTURBING WITH SPADES
This piece of merde needs brought into court to explain himself - and reveal who else is involved in this disgusting scam.
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Bit odd innit?
Birch was allowed to investigate, but real investigators, or SY cannot.
You can't tell me nobody knew he was there, and who did he have with him from Portuguese IT specialists?
Birch was allowed to investigate, but real investigators, or SY cannot.
You can't tell me nobody knew he was there, and who did he have with him from Portuguese IT specialists?
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They will just say that someone had already dug up the evidence, and then run over the area with a garden roller. I mean, they've had plenty of time, haven't they. And I expect someone could track down a garden roller if Robert Murat hasn't got one.
See, I'm getting quite good at this. Perhaps I should change sides because they certainly need some help.
See, I'm getting quite good at this. Perhaps I should change sides because they certainly need some help.
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But if they erected a tarpaulin cover in Murat's yard, and some men in white CSI suits went in and started digging, and the results came back as 'nothing suspicious,'...... would we believe them?
I know I wouldn't.... not unless the digging was done openly. That is the sad state of affairs at this juncture I fear.
See? This is just entertainment to these creatures, they WANT to see people hurt, they WANT to see Mrs Murat's garden dug up yet again, this time live on telly.
And their dearest wish would be to see Madeleine's remains dug up live on telly, they would be beside themselves with ghoulish, sick glee.
No heed should be paid to what these sickos want, they are the kind of freaks who enjoy other people's suffering.
Also, whoever is behind this hoax, is in their camp - only the likes of them go around insisting Madeleine McCann is dead, without a shred of evidence.
Look at posts like that, and it is clear their lives will be ruined if and when Madeleine is found alive and reunited with her family.
But if they erected a tarpaulin cover in Murat's yard, and some men in white CSI suits went in and started digging, and the results came back as 'nothing suspicious,'...... would we believe them?
I know I wouldn't.... not unless the digging was done openly. That is the sad state of affairs at this juncture I fear.
See? This is just entertainment to these creatures, they WANT to see people hurt, they WANT to see Mrs Murat's garden dug up yet again, this time live on telly.
And their dearest wish would be to see Madeleine's remains dug up live on telly, they would be beside themselves with ghoulish, sick glee.
No heed should be paid to what these sickos want, they are the kind of freaks who enjoy other people's suffering.
Also, whoever is behind this hoax, is in their camp - only the likes of them go around insisting Madeleine McCann is dead, without a shred of evidence.
Look at posts like that, and it is clear their lives will be ruined if and when Madeleine is found alive and reunited with her family.
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Maggs wrote:Bit odd innit?
Birch was allowed to investigate, but real investigators, or SY cannot.
You can't tell me nobody knew he was there, and who did he have with him from Portuguese IT specialists?
I have a feeling one or two knew he was there, Maggs, like a good little puppet
He wasn't in the garden proper, he was in the lower bit beneath the pool, which I suspect is why the dogs didn't get him.
The 'Portuguese IT specialist' was probably just the cameraman - anyone seen Levy recently? Or is the back gate too narrow for him to get through?
Others, even on Bennett's home forum, are thinking the same as us:
Maybe he has been paid by somebody who would benefit right now from a little distraction and I would not imagine that the McCanns need to do that currently.
Quite.
And isn't it odd, Morais returning from saving the Arctic just as all this kicks off? No doubt just another of those coincidences
My money's on this being a stunt which has backfired; neither the Murats nor the McCanns, nor the Portuguese authorities, have taken the bait.
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Bloody hell, he would have dug up the driveway if he had been able to. Or so he says in that latest video on Morais Blog.
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IMO, the Portuguese authorities, and his targets, should leave him to stew, Sabot. He seems to be getting more and more hysterical, and with any luck, he is going to start blurting out the names of just who put him up to this hoax.
Interesting, is it not, that his script is uncannily similar to Quack's?
Interesting, is it not, that his script is uncannily similar to Quack's?
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"SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS." Too right. They are sick to their evil souls. They will never accept that The McCanns are Innocent, no matter what happens. They will always find a reason to maintain their vile stance.
Although whether or not they believe what they say is irrelevant. They enjoy inflicting pain on bereft families. But I don't suppose that The McCanns care anymore about what they have to say.
But they for certain sure don't care about Madeleine.
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A perfect example of the kind of brain-dead hater who has fallen for this hoax:
Baffling then that nobody in authority seems interested in following this up, particularly since RM was distinctly singled out by Jane Tanner and others in the group....
Baffling? Really? When Birch alleges that Madeleine was buried there on the night of May 3rd 2007?
Before Robert Murat was wrongly made an arguido? Before the PJ levelled his garden and dug right down to Roman ruin level?
Baffling? When there are pictures of police officers digging at the very same spot he alleges Madeleine's remains are less than two feet below the surface?
The only thing 'baffling' is that there are people around stupid enough to fall for this hoax.
Baffling then that nobody in authority seems interested in following this up, particularly since RM was distinctly singled out by Jane Tanner and others in the group....
Baffling? Really? When Birch alleges that Madeleine was buried there on the night of May 3rd 2007?
Before Robert Murat was wrongly made an arguido? Before the PJ levelled his garden and dug right down to Roman ruin level?
Baffling? When there are pictures of police officers digging at the very same spot he alleges Madeleine's remains are less than two feet below the surface?
The only thing 'baffling' is that there are people around stupid enough to fall for this hoax.
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“If he has nothing to fear, he should allow the place to be excavated”
Birch has now directly accused Robert Murat. Time for Murat's lawyers to slap a writ on the fraud, and put a stop to this witch-hunt.
Birch has now directly accused Robert Murat. Time for Murat's lawyers to slap a writ on the fraud, and put a stop to this witch-hunt.
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bb1 wrote:IMO, the Portuguese authorities, and his targets, should leave him to stew, Sabot. He seems to be getting more and more hysterical, and with any luck, he is going to start blurting out the names of just who put him up to this hoax.
Interesting, is it not, that his script is uncannily similar to Quack's?
I do believe that on this occasion The Attorney General knows what he is doing, Bonny. He has all of the information from the previous two extensive searches, so Yes, just ignore him. And as you say, he could well get desperate.
DocMac. Isn't he the South African Liar who pretended to be a graduate of some South African University, but wasn't actually in the country when he supposedly attended a Reunion? Oh how we laughed at that. He sounds capable of cooking up this one.
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