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Post  Sabot Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:24 pm

bb1 wrote:I wonder, is there an element of jealousy in her bizarre interpretation? I am no Union Jack-waver, but there isn't another place on earth that can put on huge shows like that. And keep on doing it, sometimes several times a year.

The only people I've seen whinging in the UK are the Right-wing Tory types, who would love to privatize everything, despite the balls-ups over security, seats left empty by the corporate sponsors, ect.


I think there probably is some jealousy in this Bonny, Although heaven knows why. But there are a lot of Americans in London at the moment.
Neither am I A Union Jack waver, but leave The Queen alone, okay. This is not some stupid old woman who does as she is told.
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Post  bb1 Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:28 pm

Glass should have remembered the old saying.

Better to stay quiet and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and confirm it.

Body language expert my ar@e - she didn't even know what she was looking at it, or grasp what it meant in BRITISH culture.
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Post  bb1 Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:36 pm

She has just done a Profile on Katie Holmes with Suri and The Puppy.

And why on earth would any sane grown-up be in the least bit interested? Cod science for E! sounds about her dead strength. I suggest she sticks to 'profiling' zelebs - and their puppies - and stay well clear of historical events, where she clearly knows nothing about the context, background, culture, or, well, anything.
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Post  Sabot Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:41 pm

I think Doctor Lillian Glass is getting annoyed with me. Free Speach an all that. And I had no idea of what a Patriot I am until this happened.

The Funny thing is that I am probably one of the rare Brits that understands perfectly why The Americans fought their War for Independence.
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Post  Sabot Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:44 pm

bb1 wrote:She has just done a Profile on Katie Holmes with Suri and The Puppy.

And why on earth would any sane grown-up be in the least bit interested? Cod science for E! sounds about her dead strength. I suggest she sticks to 'profiling' zelebs - and their puppies - and stay well clear of historical events, where she clearly knows nothing about the context, background, culture, or, well, anything.

She has no Culture. She probably doesn't even know what the word means.
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Post  bb1 Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:49 pm

Well, yes, I do too, Sabot.

I forget where, but in some nations, moving your head from side to side - our NO - means YES. Ms Glass seems to have decided that one size fits all, and that what applies to some zelebs' child's puppy applied equally to the Head of State, not only of the UK, but of rather a lot of nations worldwide.

I doubt if she understood much of what she was actually looking at.
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Post  Sabot Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:02 pm


The suggestions was that Katie Holmes tried to force a puppy on Suri that Suri was patently terrified of. This puppy was about the size of a Tea Plate.
The more likely possibility was that Suri wanted the puppy and her Mother said No, living in an appartment and all that.
The implication being that Katie Holmes is trying to buy Suri away from her Father, that Scientology Freak.
Sorry about that. In My Opinion, Scientologists are Freaks
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Post  bb1 Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:26 pm

Believe it or not, Sabot, I have absolutely no interest in the domestic arrangements of Ms Holmes, Cruise-wise or puppy-wise. biggrin

I just watched the video Ms Glass found so offensive again:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/

How James Bond whisked the Queen to the Olympics

I recommend watching it full screen, with the sound turned up, to fully enjoy it.

I am sure there is an element of jealousy in it, Sabot - people like her like to imagine 'Engerland' (they never seem to be able to grasp which bit is which) as this sort of shabby, down-at-heel place where it rains all the time and nothing ever works properly - which it is, of course rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

However, when it REALLY matters - like standing up to Hitler all by ourselves, or putting on enormous, public pageants - we always seem to somehow manage to pull the rabbit out of the hat.

That short film is wonderful. In many ways, it IS Britain.

And if Glass cannot or will not see that, well, it's her loss.

PS - Personally, I think that, after being escorted to the stadium by James Bond, to waves from Winston Churchill and the Dambusters theme, Her Maj was rightly miffed about being introduced in French.
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Post  bb1 Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:47 pm

I suppose it did occur to Ms Glass that Her Maj might not have been best pleased at being introduced in what, in US parlance, is cheese-eating surrender monkey lingo?

Now that was a faux pas, by whichever Olympian official was responsible. While French and English are the official Olympic languages, at that particular moment, French should not have taken precedence.

There were gasps all over the UK at that.
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Post  Sabot Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:53 pm

Oh. I quite liked The French bit, probably because I understood what he said. La La.

Anyway, I have accepted an apology on behalf of The Queen from some pillock called Barbara, and promised not to insult their Head of State on the next occasion that they Host The Games. If ever.
Personally I doubt that America has enough Guns and Missiles to protect it's own population. Or maybe they have too many.
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Post  Sabot Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:57 pm


Could I have another Link to that arrival, please, Bonny? That one seems to have gone off.
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Post  bb1 Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:59 pm

Good for you, Sabot. The ridiculous woman has projected what SHE thinks onto what the British head of State, and Head of State of scores of other nations, should think, and got it abysmally wrong.

I reread her blog, and it was clear she simply did not know what she was looking at. She could have saved herself at least a few blushes if she had bothered to google GOSH and J M Barrie - she might at least have understood that segment.

And if she really, really couldn't 'get' it, she should have just shut up and enjoyed the show, like billions of other people.
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Post  bb1 Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:00 pm

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Post  Sabot Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:04 pm

That's it actually, isn't it. Just her opinion. And any fool can do that. It's hardly Body Language Expertise.
My dog looks as though he is starving 24/7. Call The RSPCA.
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Post  Lamplighter Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:04 pm

Maybe it's cos the Queen is not as demonstrative as other Heads of State, no punching the air with both fists .... LL
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Post  bb1 Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:04 pm

Ms Glass would be well advised to read up on the making of the video:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19018666

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Her Majesty, Daniel Craig, our Brazilian schoolchildren (a nod to four years hence of course) and the corgis all played their parts impeccably and none of it would have happened without the extraordinary and tenacious Tracey Seaward who somehow fitted in co-executive producing these two films with her day job of producing the entire ceremony

Does she seriously think the Queen didn't know a stunt double, in identical clothes, was going to jump out of the helicopter?

I watched it with my family, and we all thought the chopper was actually going to somehow land right in the middle of the arena..... Shocked
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Post  Sabot Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:10 pm

Lamplighter wrote:Maybe it's cos the Queen is not as demonstrative as other Heads of State, no punching the air with both fists .... LL

Perhaps their Head of State will arrive on a jet propelled rocket shouting Free Speach for all. After that, someone will have to recite The Constitution. This might reminded them that, Not Guilty means precisely that when it comes to Casey Anthony.

Oh Yes, she did that one. And Casey's parents who, wait for it, were caught out SHOPPING. OMG. And looking shifty. How very dare they.
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Post  Lamplighter Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:14 pm

How about good old-fashioned sour grapes cos the Big Apple could only make it into 4th place? LL hmmm hmmm

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Post  bb1 Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:17 pm

Pure ignorance, I think, LL? Which is actually inexcusable from a so-called 'professional'. If Glass didn't know what she was looking at, then no-one was stopping her from finding out before she mouthed off.
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Post  bb1 Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:19 pm

Glass has probably never heard of J M Barrie, and thinks 'Peter Pan' is a Disney character. Well, she must do, to fail to grasp the GOSH segment.
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Post  Sabot Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:20 pm

bb1 wrote:Try this one, Sabot:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19020220

Not Available in France, Bonny. But thanks anyway.
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Post  Lamplighter Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:26 pm

bb1 wrote:Pure ignorance, I think, LL? Which is actually inexcusable from a so-called 'professional'. If Glass didn't know what she was looking at, then no-one was stopping her from finding out before she mouthed off.
Let's face it we Brits know that HM is a first and foremost a lady; and she behaves with dignity and decorum at all times. I saw in the film an elderly lady with a barely concealed smile of delight and certainly the Duke was grinning from ear to ear and back again. I bet this blonde bimbo is also ageist.

Re Scientology, I was once invited to a 'theosophical debate' in LA whrn I was living there. It turned out to be a recruitment drive for Scientology; a load of balderdash and idiocy. I walked out but was pursued by a woman who tried to give me a copy of Dianetics, the Hubbard book. When I refused she turned quite nasty and called me a couple of names, at which point I told her, first in English, then in Austrian what a stupid creature she was. She then threatened me so I told her what I did for a living - and she bolted, very fast, back to the meeting. It is a cult, plain and simple, NOT a religion but a way to make money from the gullible, especially the rich idiots like Cruise. LL
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Post  bb1 Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:27 pm

Oh, that's a nuisance, Sabot. The BBC has the copyright, and they are being taken off YouTube as fast as they appear. There must be one somewhere international....
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Post  Sabot Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:50 pm

Lamplighter wrote:
bb1 wrote:Pure ignorance, I think, LL? Which is actually inexcusable from a so-called 'professional'. If Glass didn't know what she was looking at, then no-one was stopping her from finding out before she mouthed off.
Let's face it we Brits know that HM is a first and foremost a lady; and she behaves with dignity and decorum at all times. I saw in the film an elderly lady with a barely concealed smile of delight and certainly the Duke was grinning from ear to ear and back again. I bet this blonde bimbo is also ageist.

Re Scientology, I was once invited to a 'theosophical debate' in LA whrn I was living there. It turned out to be a recruitment drive for Scientology; a load of balderdash and idiocy. I walked out but was pursued by a woman who tried to give me a copy of Dianetics, the Hubbard book. When I refused she turned quite nasty and called me a couple of names, at which point I told her, first in English, then in Austrian what a stupid creature she was. She then threatened me so I told her what I did for a living - and she bolted, very fast, back to the meeting. It is a cult, plain and simple, NOT a religion but a way to make money from the gullible, especially the rich idiots like Cruise. LL

Funny you should say that, LL. They once invaded Plymouth, England that is, and tried to extract quite a large sum of money from me, and then treated me like some sort of brain dead moron when I refused. Although in my opinion you have to be brain dead to fall for it.
But I do wonder if they were in the past, able to facilitate advancement of certain people in the real world.
Tom Cruise is a half decent Actor, but hardly in the same league as the likes of Christopher Plummer or Lawrence Olivier.
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Post  Sabot Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:56 pm

bb1 wrote:Oh, that's a nuisance, Sabot. The BBC has the copyright, and they are being taken off YouTube as fast as they appear. There must be one somewhere international....

So much for The French Connection, Bonny. I did catch it in the beginning, but not in Full Screen.
Funnily enough, I thought it was The Queen to start with. What a hoot that would have been, except that they would never have allowed her to do it. Presuming she would have been daft enough. But I wouldn't be surprised if she did parachute out of some plane or another when she was younger. Dear of her.
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