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Post  bb1 Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:50 pm

Please note; the member of not-Bennett's site known as 'LadyinRed' has admitted to being 'Christine in Cardiff'

From:

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id232.html

First broadcast: Thursday 20 February 2014

Transcript

By Nigel Moore

Nicky Campbell: Errm... Adeal in London... no, I tell you what, we'll go to Christine in Cardiff. Brief points please because there's only eight minutes left, so make your questions as... as, errr... well edited as you can. Hi, Christine.

Christine: (phone in) Good morning. Good morning, Sir Bernard.

Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe: Good morning, Christine.

Christine: I'd like to ask you, errr... on the progress of Operation Grange.

Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe: Right, we have a lots of Op... Operations, so you're going to have...

Nicky Campbell: Operation Grange, just...?

Christine: Operation Grange.

Nicky Campbell: Which is?

Christine: It's the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe: Ahh, right, thank you for helping...

Christine: That's okay.

Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe: ...but we do have a lot of Operations in London, so I'm sorry if I didn't recognise it immediately.

Nicky Campbell: The Portuguese police are in a mess... really messed up, didn't they?

Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe: Yes. [spoken in acknowledgment of the reference to the 'Portuguese police' and before Nicky Campbell has finished his sentence]

Christine: Yes... no [seemingly spoken in echo of Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe's 'yes' but then realises it could be misconstrued and makes an attempt to change it to 'no'. See her next comment]

Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe: Errm... I'm not going to respond to Nicky's comments.

Christine: (in background) Did they Nicky?

Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe: I'm just going to... Let me just... let me just help. Where we are at the moment: We've sent three letters of request for international assistance to the Portuguese, errr... Judiciary, because that's the way their system works, and also with the police - we are working closely with them. Errm... obviously the Portuguese police have got a line of inquiry which is different to the Metropolitan Police's but we're working together to try and resolve that. Errm... we're trying our best to keep the family informed and I think in the middle of all this, quite often their torment gets lost. Have they lost a child or, errr... by being murdered or... sadly... or have they lost a child by someone else stealing them.

Nicky Campbell: Awful.

Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe: Either way, errr... they've got that terrible uncertainty, so we're all trying our best to help resolve that. We...

Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe: Errr... yes, we've said very clearly that, you know, we've got lines of inquiry that, errm... are different to the Portuguese police and we're working with them to try and resolve that and I'm only going to... you know, that comment you made at the beginning, about, you know, what they did or didn't do. We've got to work together on this and I don't mean that as a naïve thing; I just think, generally. We've generally got to work together. We can't police Portugal, they can't do everything over here; we must work together. So, we're insist... you know, we really can work in genuine partnership on this. We're making some progress, errm... let's see how it comes over the next few months.

Nicky Campbell: If you'd been involved at the outset, do you think we might have got further with this investigation?

Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe: Errr... I think that's a bit unf... that would be unfair. I mean there's been inquiries in, errm... in the UK, where we know that the police could have done better. I think to be too judgmental in these cases is... is wrong and I wasn't there and I'm not going to judge them. The main thing we're all committed to is trying to find that little girl.

Nicky Campbell: And you have lines of inquiry, you have 'suspects' lines of inquiry; you have names.

Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe: That's right.

Nicky Campbell: Errm... and I appreciate how you can't, at this stage, go any further, errr... and have you spoken to those people?

Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe: Errm... I'm not going to go any further, really. Because that's what you just said you didn't want!

Nicky Campbell: I'm sure when you were interviewing people in that... in that little room you'd try and sneak one in like that, Sir Bernard. I bet you have in your time.


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Post  bb1 Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:55 pm

It becomes clear why there's a section of the hounders' transcript that doesn't make sense. It's because it didn't happen...
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Post  bb1 Thu Feb 20, 2014 4:04 pm

Spot the difference competition!

HOUNDER VERSION:

Nicky :Portuguese police really messed up didn't they

BHH Yes (answering Cic)

Cic: Yes, no-er, what did you say Nicky?


MCCANNFILES VERSION

Nicky Campbell: The Portuguese police are in a mess... really messed up, didn't they?

Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe: Yes. [spoken in acknowledgment of the reference to the 'Portuguese police' and before Nicky Campbell has finished his sentence]

Christine: Yes... no [seemingly spoken in echo of Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe's 'yes' but then realises it could be misconstrued and makes an attempt to change it to 'no'. See her next comment]
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Post  lily Thu Feb 20, 2014 4:24 pm

I'm not able to hear the program but I sure can read.

Hounder had to back track.
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Post  bb1 Thu Feb 20, 2014 5:31 pm

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/460831/Met-chief-confirms-he-DOES-have-names-of-Maddy-suspects

Met chief confirms he DOES have names of Maddy suspects

THE Metropolitan Police Commissioner has confirmed Scotland Yard does have names of suspects in the Madeleine McCann case

Speaking on Radio 5 Live, Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe said police had "lines of inquiry" that they were looking into.

When asked by host Nicky Campbell whether he had names for the suspects, he replied: "That's right", but refused to comment further.

He said: "Obviously the Portuguese police have got lines of inquiry that are different to the Metropolitan Police but we're working together to try and resolve that."

He said it would be "unfair" to say whether he thought the operation would have been more successful if it had been led by British officers from the start.

He added: "There have been inquiries in the UK where we know the police could have done better.

"I think to be too judgemental in these cases is wrong. I wasn't there and I'm not going to judge them.

"The main thing is we are all committed to finding that little girl. "

He also said the suffering of the McCanns was often overrun by the details of the case.

He said: "We are trying our best to keep the family informed. I think in the middle of all this, quite often their torment gets lost."
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Post  bb1 Thu Feb 20, 2014 5:32 pm

He also said the suffering of the McCanns was often overrun by the details of the case.

He said: "We are trying our best to keep the family informed. I think in the middle of all this, quite often their torment gets lost."


Wonder if the tick-tockers can grasp that?
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Post  lily Thu Feb 20, 2014 5:40 pm

Well the hounders, forkers and assorted others, see it as their duty to heap it on regardless of the fact that they are innocent people in this.
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Post  bb1 Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:22 pm

http://stopthemyths.prophpbb.com/post216587.html#p216587

Many thanks to Tigerloaf for putting the interview on YouTube.

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Post  lily Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:30 pm

Yes, a huge thank you to tigerloaf. CIC was obviously minimized but she did say yes first.

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Post  bb1 Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:48 pm

Babalou ‏@B_balou 2h
@cosyring Don't think ------>>> @NickyAACampbell has read those judging by his despicable comment that the PJ really messed #mccann case up.

Nicky Campbell ‏@NickyAACampbell 2h
@B_balou it was a provoking question to BHH not an opinion ya numpty.

10:36 AM - 20 Feb 2014 · Details
Babalou ‏@B_balou 2h
Hope that's playful banter & not abuse from >> @NickyAACampbell Don't think you should make inflammatory remarks re PJ. Leave it to #mccann


NUMPTY?

He's got the measure of the McCann-haters.  rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl 
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Post  lily Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:05 pm

They'll get a complex next.  rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl 
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Post  bb1 Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:42 pm

This bristling-with-indignation hounder is hilarious:


This is in no way a critique of Ladyinred, but had I been on the other end of that telephone, I'd have been rudely interrupting Bernard Hogan-Howe demanding to know what these 'differences' are, because as sure as hell they ain't about jurisdiction issues or who's going to play lead counsel in any subsequent proceedings, etc. etc.

........and as soon as it started ranting, the plug would have been pulled on the nutjob. Hahau 

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Post  Pedro Silva Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:06 pm

thank you bb1, Tigerloaf.
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Post  Pedro Silva Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:11 pm

"The main thing we're all committed to is trying to find that little girl.", this is what is truly important.
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Post  lily Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:29 pm

bb1 wrote:This bristling-with-indignation hounder is hilarious:


This is in no way a critique of Ladyinred, but had I been on the other end of that telephone, I'd have been rudely interrupting Bernard Hogan-Howe demanding to know what these 'differences' are, because as sure as hell they ain't about jurisdiction issues or who's going to play lead counsel in any subsequent proceedings, etc. etc.

........and as soon as it started ranting, the plug would have been pulled on the nutjob. Hahau 


However, in the hounder fantasy world, s/he would ofbeen met with a round of applause from BHH lauding the intelligence, research etc.

Thus the investigation would of changed direction.  rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl 
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Post  bb1 Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:33 pm

Off course it would off..... rofl 

These people are clearly living in a parallel universe:


My goodness LIR, what have you started?! Looks like you've provided most of tomorrow's headlines! Well done, you!

What, by mumbling Yes a couple of times, and otherwise being ignored? Or was there a Secret Radio Show only haters can listen to?
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Post  lily Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:41 pm

what have you started?!

That is very easy to answer. Another round of laughter that's what.  rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl 
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Post  bb1 Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:08 pm

Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe on R5 Bg8xm00IIAAxqDI
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Post  lily Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:11 pm

Interesting.
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Post  bb1 Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:08 pm

Shelagh Ferreira imo SY's mission is to frame some hapless patsy and the PJ are refusing to endorse this. Rightly so, they are not co-operating and even being obstructive

Their wilful stupidity is awesome.

The Yard has stated that the McCanns are not suspects. The PJ have stated that they aren't interested in the McCanns and are treating the reopened case as an abduction.

It's the PJ who are pursuing the Tractorman angle.

And not one bit of any of this has penetrated their thick skulls. Indeed, in their warped minds, it's GOOD that the PJ are not going in the same direction as the Yard. So much for all their hypocrisy about 'caring' about missing children.
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Post  lily Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:12 pm

I think hating has re-wired their brains.  Pcorneater 
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Post  bb1 Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:34 pm

A hounder asks:

Have the Portuguese police ever come out and actually stated that the McCanns are not being considered as suspects?


For the millionth time:

YES

Why can't they make even a little effort to keep track of what is really going on?
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Post  lily Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:39 pm

It's something they don't want to know so they forget it. However, if it were something positive for Gonc they would not forget.

Strange but true.
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Post  lily Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:35 am

Red tape hampering search for Madeleine McCann

THE parents of Madeleine McCann want police to form a joint British and Portuguese task-force to find their daughter.


By: David PilditchPublished: Thu, February 20, 2014

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The couple are said to be frustrated that the level of co-operation between the two forces “isn’t as it should be”.

It comes amid growing concerns that investigators are conducting separate inquiries instead of pooling resources.

Last night a friend of the couple said they were worried that a potential conflict will hinder the search for Madeleine, abducted in May 2007.

The source said: “It is obvious that the co-operation between Britain and Portugal isn’t as it should be.

“There are two police inquiries going on in two different countries trying to find out what happened to Madeleine and you would want and hope that they would work together.”

British investigators are focusing on three local burglars blamed for a string of break-ins at the Algarve holiday resort of Praia da Luz, where Madeleine was staying with her family. In what could be a breakthrough, Scotland Yard honed in on the three men after a painstaking trawl through mobile phone records.

It is understood there was significant phone traffic between them around the time Madeleine, then aged three, vanished.

Kate and Gerry hope, for the sake of Madeleine, the two countries’ forces can work together in a joint investigation
A source close to the McCann's

Portugal’s Policia Judiciaria are concentrating their efforts on a theory that a sacked resort worker abducted Madeleine. Heroin addict Euclides Monteiro, 40, was killed in a tractor accident four years ago, but mobile phone analysis placed his handset near the McCanns’ apartment on the night Madeleine disappeared.

There have also been concerns Scotland Yard’s Operation Grange investigation has been caught up in red tape.

British police have to send international letters of request to Portugal via the Crown Prosecution Service each time they want officers to carry out investigative work on their behalf.

Last night the source close to the McCanns said: “Kate and Gerry hope, for the sake of Madeleine, the two countries’ forces can work together in a joint investigation.”

Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe has also called for senior detectives from both countries to conduct a single inquiry.

Last night the McCanns’ spokesman said: “Kate and Gerry remain very pleased with the work Scotland Yard continue to do in the search for Madeleine.”

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/460748/Missing-Madeleine-McCann-search-hampered-by-red-tape


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Post  lily Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:36 am

British police have names of suspects in Madeleine McCann case

DETECTIVES have named suspects in the Madeleine McCann investigation, Britain’s top policeman revealed yesterday.


By: John Twomey
Published: Fri, February 21, 2014

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Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe also disclosed his officers and Portuguese police are moving towards a joint investigation team.

On BBC Radio 5 Live, Sir Bernard said: “We can’t police Portugal and they can’t do anything here. So we must work together.”

It has been reported that Madeleine’s parents are frustrated at the slow progress towards a joint inquiry.

Madeleine, who was three at the time, vanished from a holiday apartment in Praia de Luz on the Algarve in May 2007.

We can’t police Portugal and they can’t do anything here. So we must work together
Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe
Since May 2011, a special squad of Scotland Yard detectives have investigated.

It is understood the squad has identified a number of suspects, including three burglars operating in the area at the time.

Radio presenter Nicky Campbell asked: “You have lines of inquiry, suspects, names?” Sir Bernard replied: “That’s right.”

Authorities in London and Lisbon are working to set up a joint squad to take advantage of European law to speed up cross-border inquiries.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/460956/British-police-have-names-of-suspects-in-Madeleine-McCann-case
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