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Scotland Yard's hunt for Madeleine McCann is in jeopardy because of foot-dragging by Portuguese police who think they know who was responsible for her disappearance.
High-ranking officers in Portugal are convinced African thief Euclides Montiero took Madeleine and was responsible for five other sex attacks on British girls before being killed in a tractor accident in 2009.
However, the frustrated Yard team believes there is insufficient evidence. One attack believed to be significant to the Madeleine inquiry took place the year after
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Precisely.
Which begs the question - why are the PJ so desperate to blame a dead black guy when it's glaringly obvious it isn't the same person?
High-ranking officers in Portugal are convinced African thief Euclides Montiero took Madeleine and was responsible for five other sex attacks on British girls before being killed in a tractor accident in 2009.
However, the frustrated Yard team believes there is insufficient evidence. One attack believed to be significant to the Madeleine inquiry took place the year after
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Precisely.
Which begs the question - why are the PJ so desperate to blame a dead black guy when it's glaringly obvious it isn't the same person?
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Which begs another question, who is this person they are determined to shield? Someone has enough clout so who would that be and why?
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It's just as well Montiero's dead, or he would have been falling down those dangerous police station stairs by now.
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Definitely. Poor Gonc would have missed out on the aggro?
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He's one of those that doesn't grasp that merely getting a conviction isn't 'justice'.
The right person has to be convicted, after a professional investigation and a fair trial. Wrongful convictions are a stain on the whole justice system, never mind the person wrongly accused.
The right person has to be convicted, after a professional investigation and a fair trial. Wrongful convictions are a stain on the whole justice system, never mind the person wrongly accused.
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/466378/Scotland-Yard-and-Portuguese-police-fall-out-over-identity-of-key-Madeleine-McCann-suspect
Scotland Yard and Portuguese police fall out over identity of key Madeleine McCann suspect
SCOTLAND Yard’s hunt for Madeleine McCann is in jeopardy because of foot-dragging by Portuguese police who think they know who was responsible for her disappearance.
High-ranking officers in Portugal are convinced African thief Euclides Monteiro took Madeleine and was responsible for sex attacks on five other British girls before being killed in a tractor accident in 2009.
However, the frustrated Yard team believes there is insufficient evidence. One attack believed to be significant to the Madeleine inquiry took place the year after Monteiro died. The clash is threatening to stall the Yard probe at a crucial time, with detectives here having made 287 requests for leads to be pursued in Portugal.
The Sunday Express understands they have asked for forensic work at holiday apartments where sex attacks took place, in their hunt for a breakthrough clue, a fingerprint or hair.
Yet delays by Portuguese officials are slowing progress and increasing tensions between the two forces.
Last week Deputy Assistant Commissioner Martin Hewitt admitted he was “frustrated” with the pace of the investigation.
The Yard is interested in Monteiro but pointedly declined to name him during a briefing for journalists last week when it made a fresh appeal for help from the public. The ex-junkie was sacked as a waiter at an Ocean Club restaurant in Praia da Luz for stealing a year before Madeleine vanished from a holiday apartment there in May 2007.
Portuguese police have been interested in the volume of calls on his mobile phone on the night she vanished, which indicate he was near the scene.
Yard officers want to know if he acted alone as a thief or was part of a wider, more sinister paedophile ring which could still pose a risk to British children holidaying on the Algarve.
They also want to investigate possible links with burglars operating in Praia da Luz whom he was known to associate with.
Last week the Yard revealed it was focusing on 12 “potentially” linked break-ins between 2004 and 2010 on the western Algarve. In four cases between 2004 and 2006 a man sexually assaulted five white girls aged between seven and 10 in their beds. Two were assaulted in one villa.
The man remained calm throughout all the attacks and even when disturbed by waking parents or children he made no attempt to run away, leaving villas slowly, apparently unconcerned about being caught.
Two break-ins occurred in Praia da Luz in 2006 and 2010 but children were not assaulted in those incidents. As Monteiro died in 2009 he could not have been responsible for the last break-in in 2010.
In most of the 12 cases nothing was taken and there was no sign of forced entry, suggesting access to holiday apartment keys. All were within about an hour’s drive.
The Yard said: “Witnesses describe the man as having dark, as in tanned, skin with short dark unkempt hair. He spoke English with a foreign accent. His voice was described as slow or possibly slurred.”
Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood said: “We need to establish the identity of this man. These offences are very serious and no one has been charged. We also need to eliminate this man from our inquiries and ascertain whether these offences are linked to Madeleine’s disappearance.”
Portuguese police later leaked that the person being sought was identified by their officers as Monteiro, although he was never formally charged with any of the offences because of insufficient evidence.
However, the information offered by the Yard suggests it is far from convinced by the evidence uncovered by Portuguese detectives. They have Monteiro’s DNA as the Cape Verde immigrant had served time for theft.
British officers have pointed out to the Portuguese that a key sighting of a man holding a child in Luz at 10pm, shortly after Madeleine was taken, was not of a black man. Irishman Martin Smith and family saw him.
Former Portuguese inspector Goncalo Amaral was about to fly Mr Smith to Portugal when he was removed from the case. DCI Redwood said last week: “We still need to establish the identity of a man seen by three witnesses, carrying a child fitting Madeleine’s description towards the beach or town at about 22.00 on the night Madeleine disappeared.
“The witnesses have described the man in the e-fits as being white, aged in his 30s, with short brown hair of medium build, medium height and clean shaven.”
Scotland Yard and Portuguese police fall out over identity of key Madeleine McCann suspect
SCOTLAND Yard’s hunt for Madeleine McCann is in jeopardy because of foot-dragging by Portuguese police who think they know who was responsible for her disappearance.
High-ranking officers in Portugal are convinced African thief Euclides Monteiro took Madeleine and was responsible for sex attacks on five other British girls before being killed in a tractor accident in 2009.
However, the frustrated Yard team believes there is insufficient evidence. One attack believed to be significant to the Madeleine inquiry took place the year after Monteiro died. The clash is threatening to stall the Yard probe at a crucial time, with detectives here having made 287 requests for leads to be pursued in Portugal.
The Sunday Express understands they have asked for forensic work at holiday apartments where sex attacks took place, in their hunt for a breakthrough clue, a fingerprint or hair.
Yet delays by Portuguese officials are slowing progress and increasing tensions between the two forces.
Last week Deputy Assistant Commissioner Martin Hewitt admitted he was “frustrated” with the pace of the investigation.
The Yard is interested in Monteiro but pointedly declined to name him during a briefing for journalists last week when it made a fresh appeal for help from the public. The ex-junkie was sacked as a waiter at an Ocean Club restaurant in Praia da Luz for stealing a year before Madeleine vanished from a holiday apartment there in May 2007.
Portuguese police have been interested in the volume of calls on his mobile phone on the night she vanished, which indicate he was near the scene.
Yard officers want to know if he acted alone as a thief or was part of a wider, more sinister paedophile ring which could still pose a risk to British children holidaying on the Algarve.
They also want to investigate possible links with burglars operating in Praia da Luz whom he was known to associate with.
Last week the Yard revealed it was focusing on 12 “potentially” linked break-ins between 2004 and 2010 on the western Algarve. In four cases between 2004 and 2006 a man sexually assaulted five white girls aged between seven and 10 in their beds. Two were assaulted in one villa.
The man remained calm throughout all the attacks and even when disturbed by waking parents or children he made no attempt to run away, leaving villas slowly, apparently unconcerned about being caught.
Two break-ins occurred in Praia da Luz in 2006 and 2010 but children were not assaulted in those incidents. As Monteiro died in 2009 he could not have been responsible for the last break-in in 2010.
In most of the 12 cases nothing was taken and there was no sign of forced entry, suggesting access to holiday apartment keys. All were within about an hour’s drive.
The Yard said: “Witnesses describe the man as having dark, as in tanned, skin with short dark unkempt hair. He spoke English with a foreign accent. His voice was described as slow or possibly slurred.”
Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood said: “We need to establish the identity of this man. These offences are very serious and no one has been charged. We also need to eliminate this man from our inquiries and ascertain whether these offences are linked to Madeleine’s disappearance.”
Portuguese police later leaked that the person being sought was identified by their officers as Monteiro, although he was never formally charged with any of the offences because of insufficient evidence.
However, the information offered by the Yard suggests it is far from convinced by the evidence uncovered by Portuguese detectives. They have Monteiro’s DNA as the Cape Verde immigrant had served time for theft.
British officers have pointed out to the Portuguese that a key sighting of a man holding a child in Luz at 10pm, shortly after Madeleine was taken, was not of a black man. Irishman Martin Smith and family saw him.
Former Portuguese inspector Goncalo Amaral was about to fly Mr Smith to Portugal when he was removed from the case. DCI Redwood said last week: “We still need to establish the identity of a man seen by three witnesses, carrying a child fitting Madeleine’s description towards the beach or town at about 22.00 on the night Madeleine disappeared.
“The witnesses have described the man in the e-fits as being white, aged in his 30s, with short brown hair of medium build, medium height and clean shaven.”
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Portuguese police later leaked that the person being sought was identified by their officers as Monteiro
Hope the haters take on board that....
1. It was the PJ that leaked his name.
2. It's the PJ that are after the dead black guy.
Hope the haters take on board that....
1. It was the PJ that leaked his name.
2. It's the PJ that are after the dead black guy.
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Forker:
SY were told to 'shut it' and they still continue to spout rubbish and the PJ are fed up with it all.
Wrong. If they ever learn to read, they can see for themselves that it is, yet again, the PJ that were doing the leaking.
And some chum of Gonzo pretending to speak for the PJ doesn't carry any weight with anyone. Except his no-mark worshippers.
SY were told to 'shut it' and they still continue to spout rubbish and the PJ are fed up with it all.
Wrong. If they ever learn to read, they can see for themselves that it is, yet again, the PJ that were doing the leaking.
And some chum of Gonzo pretending to speak for the PJ doesn't carry any weight with anyone. Except his no-mark worshippers.
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Haters gotta hate. Of this photo used by the Express:
a forker says this:
A perfectly pleasant picture of the missing child they all pretend to care so much about makes Amaral supporters vomit.
Says it all.
a forker says this:
A perfectly pleasant picture of the missing child they all pretend to care so much about makes Amaral supporters vomit.
Says it all.
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We know what they are.
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On the subject of the Gonzo fanclub trying to deny children have been been attacked on the Algarve for years, by a predator that has not been caught:
http://stopthemyths.prophpbb.com/post221682.html#p221682
They haven't just thrown the parents under the bus, but the children too.
They have claimed variously that the victims don't exist, that they exaggerated what happened, that they were even too stupid to notice their assailant was a black man.
There's nothing too scummy for the McCann-haters.
http://stopthemyths.prophpbb.com/post221682.html#p221682
They haven't just thrown the parents under the bus, but the children too.
They have claimed variously that the victims don't exist, that they exaggerated what happened, that they were even too stupid to notice their assailant was a black man.
There's nothing too scummy for the McCann-haters.
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What if ... And this is merely a what if ... But what if the libel trial going quiet is something to do with these hair samples apparently being sent to Belgium?? What if they are awaiting such critical results to determine the fairness of the case
What 'hair samples being sent to Belgium'? Hasn't it sunk in yet - that's just more lies from convicted perjurer Amoral? He'd say ANYTHING to save his sorry hide for just a bit longer.
Why aren't they asking why he didn't bother to investigate the attacks on children when he was swaggering around the Algarve? Wasn't he at all interested? How was the attacker getting in? Did he have keys to the properties? Maybe an ex-pat that put money into the local economy?
No interest at all from the Great Co-Ordinator? No wonder he's panicking and burbling sh*te about hair.
Lucy-angelique Roberts
What if ... And this is merely a what if ... But what if the libel trial going quiet is something to do with these hair samples apparently being sent to Belgium?? What if they are awaiting such critical results to determine the fairness of the case
What 'hair samples being sent to Belgium'? Hasn't it sunk in yet - that's just more lies from convicted perjurer Amoral? He'd say ANYTHING to save his sorry hide for just a bit longer.
Why aren't they asking why he didn't bother to investigate the attacks on children when he was swaggering around the Algarve? Wasn't he at all interested? How was the attacker getting in? Did he have keys to the properties? Maybe an ex-pat that put money into the local economy?
No interest at all from the Great Co-Ordinator? No wonder he's panicking and burbling sh*te about hair.
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This is how desperate the Gonzo Fan Club is to cover up:
We can all go home, Marc Dutroux did it
Post weissnicht Today at 11:21 am
It's just semantics that he is in jail
See the LYING and TWISTING?
That excellent piece says nothing of the kind. It's talking about how Belgian police and others covered up for Dutroux for years while children died.
Now, why would that rattle Team Gonzo cages?
We can all go home, Marc Dutroux did it
Post weissnicht Today at 11:21 am
It's just semantics that he is in jail
See the LYING and TWISTING?
That excellent piece says nothing of the kind. It's talking about how Belgian police and others covered up for Dutroux for years while children died.
Now, why would that rattle Team Gonzo cages?
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http://yorechildren.com/2014/03/20/someone-knows-madeleine-mccanns-abductor-lessons-from-the-belgian-dutroux-case/
Wonder why the Gonzo fan club are so scared of that article? Or rather, I don't.
Wonder why the Gonzo fan club are so scared of that article? Or rather, I don't.
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Re: We can all go home, Marc Dutroux did it
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She isn't saying though that Dutroux was responsible, just that dreadful things like this are known to happen and we must all be vigilant.
Another person who should have researched the McCann case more thoroughly.
Really? When it's the Portuguese police that haven't been vigilant, leaving a predatory paedophile on the loose for years? Now, why would they do that if they weren't protecting someone?
ETA, and they must still be doing it if they're trying to blame the dead, black junkie.
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She isn't saying though that Dutroux was responsible, just that dreadful things like this are known to happen and we must all be vigilant.
Another person who should have researched the McCann case more thoroughly.
Really? When it's the Portuguese police that haven't been vigilant, leaving a predatory paedophile on the loose for years? Now, why would they do that if they weren't protecting someone?
ETA, and they must still be doing it if they're trying to blame the dead, black junkie.
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Oh look, a panicking hounder is attacking the person who wrote the blog about incompetent, corrupt, Belgian police and Dutroux:
http://portugalresident.com/someone-knows-madeleine-mccann%E2%80%99s-abductor
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Oh dear, predictable hate speech redacted.
That reaction is, I suspect, exactly what the author would expect from people with something to hide. She may be charitable and decide it's because the McCann-haters have so much emotional investment in the Gonzo Party Line.
That's Gonzo the dirty cop that commits perjury in missing children cases. No alarm bells ringing?
I think time will prove that the Yard know EXACTLY who they're interested in, and that he's local to the Algarve. If the Gonzo fangirlz took their hategoggles off, they would see what the rest of the world can.
http://portugalresident.com/someone-knows-madeleine-mccann%E2%80%99s-abductor
AndyB • 3 hours ago
Oh dear, predictable hate speech redacted.
That reaction is, I suspect, exactly what the author would expect from people with something to hide. She may be charitable and decide it's because the McCann-haters have so much emotional investment in the Gonzo Party Line.
That's Gonzo the dirty cop that commits perjury in missing children cases. No alarm bells ringing?
I think time will prove that the Yard know EXACTLY who they're interested in, and that he's local to the Algarve. If the Gonzo fangirlz took their hategoggles off, they would see what the rest of the world can.
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Another hounder toes the Gonzo line:
the expert doesn't seem to have noticed that unlike Dutroux in Belgium who was a prolific abductor Madeleine's " abductor" only seems to have abducted once in seven years so not many parallels there to learn from
Really? Forgotten Rui Pedro, has it? The Cipriano scandal? The strange death of Jacinta Rees, who according to the Algarve PJ committed suicide by beating her own brains in with an axe?
Four times?
We have NO idea how many local children have been attacked due to the lax approach to crimes against children. And they still are NOT asking why the attacks on the children of holidaymakers have been swept under the carpet.
They really do need to wake up and smell the coffee. They're defending the indefensible.
the expert doesn't seem to have noticed that unlike Dutroux in Belgium who was a prolific abductor Madeleine's " abductor" only seems to have abducted once in seven years so not many parallels there to learn from
Really? Forgotten Rui Pedro, has it? The Cipriano scandal? The strange death of Jacinta Rees, who according to the Algarve PJ committed suicide by beating her own brains in with an axe?
Four times?
We have NO idea how many local children have been attacked due to the lax approach to crimes against children. And they still are NOT asking why the attacks on the children of holidaymakers have been swept under the carpet.
They really do need to wake up and smell the coffee. They're defending the indefensible.
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Quote from: Silkywhiskers on Today at 03:12:54 AM
They can't have found out anything about the perp of the bed sitting attacks because
1. they don't know who he is
2. there are no other unsolved child disappearances in the Algarve
3. all he did was sit and look in 10 cases and "sexual assault" in two cases which could mean touching a butt through a pair of pjs.....NOT "rape" as alleged on this forum.
Yet another Amaral supporter makes light of the abuse of the children of holidaymakers.
They can't have found out anything about the perp of the bed sitting attacks because
1. they don't know who he is
2. there are no other unsolved child disappearances in the Algarve
3. all he did was sit and look in 10 cases and "sexual assault" in two cases which could mean touching a butt through a pair of pjs.....NOT "rape" as alleged on this forum.
Yet another Amaral supporter makes light of the abuse of the children of holidaymakers.
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bb1 wrote:http://yorechildren.com/2014/03/20/someone-knows-madeleine-mccanns-abductor-lessons-from-the-belgian-dutroux-case/
Wonder why the Gonzo fan club are so scared of that article? Or rather, I don't.
Had not heard about this before. OMG. Stunned beyond belief.
Did the police receive nice little kickbacks?
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Numty:
......Now lets factor in the Oswald scenario, nothing like a dead patsy to get quick closure to a case, black, junkie, foreign,…wow manna from heaven, a sure fire winner!….hold on..no one believes it. Another flash of brilliance, i know lets blame him for random sex attacks on unspecified women so that he does not look like what he was, a petty thief stealing to feed his habit.........
So, why isn't the numty demanding to know why the PJ are trying to blame the dead black guy?
PS - it wasn't 'women'. It's children.
......Now lets factor in the Oswald scenario, nothing like a dead patsy to get quick closure to a case, black, junkie, foreign,…wow manna from heaven, a sure fire winner!….hold on..no one believes it. Another flash of brilliance, i know lets blame him for random sex attacks on unspecified women so that he does not look like what he was, a petty thief stealing to feed his habit.........
So, why isn't the numty demanding to know why the PJ are trying to blame the dead black guy?
PS - it wasn't 'women'. It's children.
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Obviously she was more concerned about the poor man.
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I find it most interesting that it's Gonzo supporters that are trying to spread the outright lie that it's the Yard who are blaming the dead black guy, when it is, in fact, the PJ.
They really should learn to read. And ask themselves WHY the PJ are trying to blame someone who died the year before the attacks continued.
They really should learn to read. And ask themselves WHY the PJ are trying to blame someone who died the year before the attacks continued.
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Totally correct. What's this rush to sweep it under the carpet?
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They're always bleating, Why doesn't Portugal defend itself? It never sinks in that Portugal can't.
Having fouled the investigation up the first time, the PJ is now concentrating on someone that simply could not have been responsible for the attacks on children in 2010.
And why was nothing done about the attacks in the first place? If the Gonzo fan club can't see something stinks to high Heaven, they're even stupider than we thought.
Having fouled the investigation up the first time, the PJ is now concentrating on someone that simply could not have been responsible for the attacks on children in 2010.
And why was nothing done about the attacks in the first place? If the Gonzo fan club can't see something stinks to high Heaven, they're even stupider than we thought.
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