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Post  Lamplighter Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:37 pm

Breakingnews Breakingnews

Verdict reached in Conrad Murray trial

By Alan Duke, CNN
November 7, 2011 -- Updated 1925 GMT (0325 HKT)

Los Angeles (CNN) -- Jurors in the involuntary manslaughter trial of Michael Jackson's doctor reached a verdict on their second day of deliberations Monday.

The jury buzzed three times at 10:56 a.m. (1:56 p.m. ET) to signal a verdict has been reached after about nine hours of deliberation. The verdict is expected to be announced in two hours, at 4 p.m. ET.
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Post  bb1 Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:05 pm

Thanks, LL - I freely admit the Jackson trial has rather passed me by. It will be interesting to see what a jury makes of it all.
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Post  lily Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:12 pm

I haven't paid too much attention, to be honest, but I think the Doc will be sent away for a while.
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Post  Lamplighter Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:12 pm

bb1 wrote:Thanks, LL - I freely admit the Jackson trial has rather passed me by. It will be interesting to see what a jury makes of it all.
CNN have promised a live broadcast as the verdict is announced. They are saying in approx an hour, but at exactly which hour I don't know. LL
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Post  greenink211 Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:23 pm

BBC claiming 21.00 GMT is time of announcement.
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Post  crazytony Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:39 pm

greenink211 wrote:BBC claiming 21.00 GMT is time of announcement.
Just about to be announced

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Post  Sabot Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:09 pm


I am going out on a limb. I think he will get off.
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Post  lily Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:10 pm

I wish the judge would go into the court so the verdict can be announced.
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Post  bb1 Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:12 pm

I have just glanced at the headlines, but it all seems so confusing, and he isn't charged with murder or anything, so I tend to agree from what I have seen of it, Sabot.

I get the impression that no-one was actually bothering about Michael Jackson's welfare - nobody.
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Post  lily Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:18 pm

The Judge is in. The verdict is guilty of crime of involuntary manslaughter.

Oops, just getting the info from the jury - confirmed.


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Post  crazytony Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:19 pm

lily wrote:The Judge is in. The verdict is guilty of crime of involuntary manslaughter.
All jury members voted guilty.

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Post  Lamplighter Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:20 pm

lily wrote:The Judge is in. The verdict is guilty of crime of involuntary manslaughter.
You beat me by 2 minutes, Lily! I was watching it on CNN, he can get up to four years inside! LL
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Post  bb1 Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:23 pm

Ah well, I should have paid more attention to the trial.

PS - I HATE Sky's new banner at the bottom of the page, I find it beyond irritating - it draws the eye down when you actually want to read what is at the top of the page.
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Post  Sabot Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:23 pm

I'm surprised he live for as long as he did. If it hadn't been this Doctor it would have been another one.

And I don't think that Michael Jackson was a bad man. But although I believe that he had a shitty childhood, I don't believe that this was responsible for his over indulgence in Drugs. If that were the case then I would be a Crack Head. There was something else missing in Michael Jackson.
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Post  Sabot Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:27 pm


Oh well, there you go. And I was wrong about Vincent Tabak as well. I guess I tend to live behind rose tinted spectacles when it comes to people.
Although you might think I would have been disabused of that by now.
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Post  lily Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:32 pm

Sentencing to be on the 29th November. Defendant to be remanded in custody with no bail.
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Post  Maggs Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:42 pm

lily wrote:Sentencing to be on the 29th November. Defendant to be remanded in custody with no bail.

If this hadn't been Michael Jackson, I don't believe he would have been found guilty Lily!

What annoys me, is all the family think about is Michael's money. They were never there for him when he needed them most.
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Post  lily Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:53 pm

Maggs wrote:
lily wrote:Sentencing to be on the 29th November. Defendant to be remanded in custody with no bail.

If this hadn't been Michael Jackson, I don't believe he would have been found guilty Lily!

What annoys me, is all the family think about is Michael's money. They were never there for him when he needed them most.

I believe you are right, Maggs. His family sure did do very well out of him. It was his parents who pushed for this.

He was really sweet. Very childlike and kind. Always spoke in a gentle manner. So very talented, and I believe he was so misunderstood by many.
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Post  bb1 Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:57 pm

I suspect Murray has been made a scapegoat for the failings of everyone else who was around Jackson in the days before his death.
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Post  lily Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:01 pm

bb1 wrote:I suspect Murray has been made a scapegoat for the failings of everyone else who was around Jackson in the days before his death.

You nailed it, Bonny.
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Post  crazytony Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:23 pm

Sorry but, I believe the correct verdict was reached. Part of a doctors Hippocratic oath is, 'First Do No Harm'. He should never had Propofol anywhere near Jackson knowing the drugs he was already taking. And, he should never have left Jackson alone after administrating the drug to him. It doesn't matter what other doctors did, Murray was the one that was there. He had a choice, he made the wrong one, and Jackson is dead.

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Post  bb1 Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:26 pm

I haven't been following it closely, Tony, I just got the impression that Jackson's final days were chaotic all round?
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Post  lily Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:30 pm

Apologies, Tony. He should not have left him alone, I do agree there.

There were too many vultures around MJ but no one could say NO to him. That becomes a huge problem when dealing with mega stars. I'm definitely not saying it's right, but that is a hazard of working for people like that. That's why it's called Hollyweird.
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Post  bb1 Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:33 pm

From Sky:

In a police interview, the doctor also mentioned other medical conditions that his patient was dealing with.

He said it would take the singer "hours" to urinate for which he had been prescribed the drug Flomax, and that his body was covered in injection scars.
He also revealed that Jackson had a severe fungal infection in his toenails and had arranged for the removal of painful calluses on his feet that made it difficult to dance.
The doctor added that the singer did not eat or drink, and had very bad eyesight - so bad in fact the "he could be legally blind".


Poor sod, what a way to live - that is a list of ailments you would expect to see from someone in their eighties.
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