KATE'S DIARY WAS GIVEN TO PORTUGUESE FEMALE JOURNO BY THE PJ

Doesn't it just? They have scraped right through the bottom of the barrel now - including telling outright LIES:

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Bravo, Tony!

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I wish these sick, corrupt sh*ts would crawl back under their rock and never pollute our oxygen again.

Can someone tell me exactly when Kate's Diary was seized by The PJ? Please.

Same day as her clothes were siezed, Sabot - August 3rd?

bb1 wrote:Same day as her clothes were siezed, Sabot - August 3rd?

Thanks, Bonny. Answered on other thread about the latest BIG FAT LIE on MM by some Blogger whose name I can't remember. How does he think The PJ seized Kate's Diary when she was back in UK in October?

KATE'S DIARY WAS SEIZED ON GONC'S WATCH AND UNDER HIS INSTRUCTIONS. I expect he had already decided to sell it before it was returned.

Sue Me.

Doesn't matter how they twist and spin now, Sabot, it all happened on Amoral's watch - God knows how many copies were being passed around Portimao.

And telling colossal LIES in an attempt to get him off the hook is a sign of real desperation, IMO.

Oh FFS, how desperate are these people?

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Xavier wrote:
Not sure that anyone comes of out this exactly smelling of roses.

However you spin this, how did a copy of the diary get from the PJ into the hands of a Portuguese journalist in the first place? And was thence sold to the NOTW.

Was a payment made for the copy of the diary?

And on whose watch did this happen?


Yes, but there are two sides to it. You have chosen to look at the least important aspect at this stage.

Clearly we need to know (because it has not so far been established as fact, that the PJ (or specific elements within it) did leak it and when and for what reason.

However of greater importance surely is the issue of truthfulness regarding Mitchell, Edmondson, Myler & Crone.

Given what the McCann's said under oath about this episode and given the NOTW staff testimony at Leverson then there is a much more serious issue here of people lying under oath.

And what Mitchell has so far said in his denials makes no sense whatsoever.

He knew of a diary but didn't know it was Kate's??? If he knew there was a diary why wouldn't he have told K&G??

So right now, in the context of this enquiry that's the real and only story in town.

Agree??

Isn't that pathetic It's trying to pretend that it doesn't matter that the PJ passed copies of the diary on after they were ordered destroyed

Instead, we get a pathetic he said - she said diversionary tactic

The pitchforkers must be dizzy with their efforts to spin this disaster for Amoral

Oh, this one's getting the idea...

There is also another question, if the NotW where going to pay a journalist for the diary in Portuguese, and the McCanns said it was ok to print it, then why didn't they just print her copy in English, and avoid the translation costs and the cost to the journalist, which Sanderson mentioned.

Exactly, dear pitchforker. The reason they didn't print the originals IS THAT THE MCCANNS KNEW NOTHING ABOUT IT TILL THE NOTW CAME OUT.

Edmundson didn't tell Clarence Mitchell the truth about what NOTW were planning - now do you get the picture?

However of greater importance surely is the issue of truthfulness regarding Mitchell, Edmondson, Myler & Crone.

Given what the McCann's said under oath about this episode and given the NOTW staff testimony at Leverson then there is a much more serious issue here of people lying under oath.

Here we go again with their faulty upside down logic. Remind me please, who has a sentence hanging over him for lying?

Try not to laugh at this desperate suggestion from 'Me' *cough*


It's not beyond the realms of possibility to propose that it was requested or suggested it should be done this way (i.e. purchased from the Portuguese source rather than direct from the McCann's) to put distance between the Team / Mitchell and the "leak" of this document.



Oh yes it is beyond the realms of possibility - desperate or what?

They have heard testimony after testimony, in public, under oath - and they just cannot bring themselves to face the truth.

TEAM AMORAL DID THIS.

I don't know why they bother telling lies. It isn't going to affect anything, and no one is taking any notice.
The McCanns aren't going to be arrested or made Arguidos again, even if the case is reopened.

Gonc, on the other hand is in some serious shit. He is already an Arguido with another case looming. Hey Ho, Happy Days.

The business of the diary escaping from the clutches of Portimao PJ isn't funny - but this display is hilarious. Do they actually believe this rubbish themselves? Or can they just not face the fact that they have been played for fools by Gonc and co?

I was in stitches all over again when I saw someone on MM asking:

Cui bono?
Who and what benefited from this confused and mysterious story?

Conspiraloon nonsense follows...but not the obvious answer...

WHOEVER IN PORTUGAL GOT A CUT OF THE APPROXIMATELY €20,000 NOTW WERE CONNED INTO PARTING WITH

God, what a moron this one is!

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@LevesonInquiry LEAVE the #mccann s OUT of this! THE DIARY WOULD HAVE BEEN MADE PUBLIC BY PORTUGUESE JUDICIARY EVENTUALLY ANYWAY! FFS
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No, they wouldn't - a Portuguese judge ordered the destruction of all copies:



Someone in Portimao ignored that order.

Of course they would have, HB - the lengths the forkers are going to to convince themselves that the sun rises in the West are rather amusing to watch, though.

The whole thing is spelled out for them, and they still can't - or won't - believe the truth.

honestbroker wrote:It is outrageous to suppose that Mitchell would give consent to publication of anything leaked from Portugal.

The McCanns would have sacked him on the spot if they supposed he'd done any such thing.

They have sacked him. Several times. Everybody knows that.

Don't encourage them, Sabot - you know how reality-challenged they are.

bb1 wrote:Don't encourage them, Sabot - you know how reality-challenged they are.

You mean they haven't sacked him? Well they will now. You see if I'm right.

Silly creature.

I wish we could establish 100% whether or not Amoral's lawyer, Antonio Cabrita, is connected to the notorious raddled Portuguese Journalist Felicia Cabrita.

And what is this carp Ironside Magnolia has come out with?

Today, it has been reported that the person who 'leaked' the diary was a female Portuguese' reporter...Kate has made it plain the 'diary' was translated into Portuguese and then translated back into English...do you see where I am going with this ? The ONLY female reporter who followed this case because of her very good English was none other than Sandra Felgueiras !

He off his meds again? The rest of us can think of quite a few names - and Sandra F. isn't even on the list.

Cabrita? Morais? No? Nothing ringing bells? Someone with good English calling herself a journo? No?

Question.

As the copies of the diary went walkabouts around Portimao on Gonc's watch, can Ms Duarte question him about the matter in the course of the libel trial?

The Female Portuguese Journalist wouldn't have needed to speak English. The PJ had it translated into Portuguese at great cost to The Portuguese Tax Payers, and then flogged it on illegally. Hopefully the powers that be will do something about this as they do seem to have run out of patience with the corruption in The PJ.
But Gonc should have lost his Pension the minute he was convicted, and the other one should have been sacked. This whole thing beggars belief.

PS. How MM have managed to turn this into The McCann's fault is beyond me. Madeleine was hardly born when these corrupt coppers committed these offences

bb1 wrote:Question.

As the copies of the diary went walkabouts around Portimao on Gonc's watch, can Ms Duarte question him about the matter in the course of the libel trial?

Was The Diary mentioned in his Book? If so, was anything derogatory said by he?

4. What was paid for the diary and to whom?
I believe 18,000 Euros were paid to the Portuguese journalist (the P J). It was paid in two
parts; 9,000 Euros up front and 9,000 Euros on publication. I can’t be certain of this figure,
but it is certainly a fairly accurate estimate. I am aware of the approximate figure because
that is the price that had been agreed with the PJ in my initial phone conversations with the
PJ. The PJ set the price, which I had communicated to Mr Edmondson. Mr Edmondson then
authorised both payments to the source. The PJ then contacted me after publication to
organise the second payment, which was authorised by Mr Edmondson

So the NOTW, lost 18,000 Euro to a bent Journo

The PJ had it translated into Portuguese at great cost to The Portuguese Tax Payers, and then flogged it on illegally.

Ah, of course, so they did, Sabot. The receipt for the translation:



No need for anyone to speak fluent English - they got their translation at the expense of the Portuguese taxpayer.

I am aware of the approximate figure because
that is the price that had been agreed with the PJ in my initial phone conversations with the
PJ.

Sorry, Maggs, it is NOT the police PJ - Mr Sanderson took it into his head to use 'PJ' as shortform for Portuguese Journalist.....he could scarcely have picked a worse abbreviation, under the circumstances.