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FleetStreetFox speaks out about the PJ and hatertrolls
bb1 Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:48 pm
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-missing-whoevers-blame-2370176
Madeleine McCann is missing and whoever's to blame, we have to find her
14 Oct 2013 14:28
FleetStreetFox on the new push to find Maddie six years, five months and 11 days after she went missing on holiday
Six years ago a little girl disappeared.
And that's it - that's pretty much all we know for sure. Madeleine McCann was there one minute and gone the next. She was a few days off her fourth birthday.
It's actually been six years, five months and 11 days since it happened. She'd be 10 now, on the cusp of adolescence, getting excited about going up to 'big school', and badgering her parents for Christmas presents.
Instead her parents are on Crimewatch tonight - and several other crime-solving programmes across Europe - publicising a new police investigation which is throwing up new leads and suspects.
No-one has seen much of it apart from a brief trailer, and no-one at all has heard what the new information might be. That hasn't stopped an awful lot of people having their say, with everything from off-colour jokes to wild accusations.
Not one person who makes them knows what's actually true. They're not criminal psychologists, they haven't sifted the evidence, and most of them can't begin to imagine what it must be like for your child to just drop off the radar like that.
It says a lot about human beings that the ability to presume the worst of strangers, on the basis of no evidence at all, is as undiminished today as it was when we crawled out of the swamp.
Perhaps the worst is true; stranger, and worse things have happened. But the fact is we don't know anything much beyond the fact that little girl was last seen sleeping in her family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal, in May 2007.
That doesn't stop anyone weighing in, however. The internet is awash with conspiracy theorists, armchair investigators, the well-intentioned, and just plain bored. Having been one of the many who reported on Madeleine's disappearance, I get sporadic abuse from these sorts for covering up a child's murder.
Which is nice. Obviously if I knew a child had been killed my first reaction would be to protect those responsible then earn online notoriety in the hope of one day having my crime exposed by someone who would need a run-up to get their head around simple arithmetic.
In fact having been a news reporter since I was 18, my first reaction is to look hard at stuff and then tell other people about it. You can make your own minds up, if you feel like reading it.
1. Praia da Luz consists of dust and rocks. There's nowhere to dispose of a body. If Madeleine was there, and dead, she'd have been found by now. There were some roadworks going on at the time she disappeared, and there was an oft-quoted theory among journalists covering the story she could have wandered into the night on her own and tipped in a hole, only to be covered up next day by unsuspecting roadworkers. As far as I know they've yet to have a look.
2. Kate and Gerry McCann were not as careful as they could have been. Hindsight makes this obvious, but the restaurant they were eating in with friends while taking it in turns to look in on their children was not as close as it seemed. It was within the same holiday complex, but between it and their apartment door were two high hedges customers could not see over, and a swimming pool. To check on their children they had to walk out of the complex, up the road for 80 yards, and back in again - and Madeleine was old enough to be able to open the door and wander out looking for her parents. The resort also boasted a babysitting service and there was no reason not to use it, if you felt like a night out.
THIS DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE MURDERERS. Nor does it constitute criminal neglect as some suggest - it's a mistake, and one they've no doubt thought about quite a lot.
3. The local police, once informed, made the Keystone Cops look like Poirot. They didn't close the borders that were a short drive away, they didn't watch the ports, they stamped all over the apartment and ground fag ash into the carpet. Thanks to the efforts of CSI Praia da Luz, any trace of intruders was lost, the first vital hours in which Madeleine was most likely to found were wasted, and while they collected mobile phone data they didn't bother to properly analyse it.
4. It’s an unpleasant fact of life that most people who kill or abuse children are family members. Predatory paedophiles are rare.
When they do strike, it’s all over and done pretty quickly. The victims are dead and disposed of within a few hours. In those hours Kate and Gerry McCann were running around Praia da Luz and talking to the police, and if they were abusive parents there’d be clear signs to their relatives and friends they were holidaying with. None have been discovered.
5. If it wasn’t Kate or Gerry, and if a body hasn’t been discovered, there’s only two options left. Either Madeleine was disposed of as thoroughly as April Jones – to the extent where there’s only a few bone fragments left lying around somewhere – or she’s still alive.
If she’s still alive, she needs to be found and returned to her family, and we all need to hope that Portugal doesn’t have its own version of Ariel Castro.
If she’s dead, she needs to be found, laid to rest, and her killer brought to justice.
Either way the Portuguese police need to get their backsides kicked all the way to Lisbon for their shocking contempt for basic police techniques, and for wasting months treating the McCanns as suspects when it got them not one step closer to finding Madeleine.
Personally I’d like to see the insane, vicious and unjustified half of Twitter suffer a sudden attack of logic and get in touch with their nicer sides to the extent they wonder what kind of scum they could be if they’ve spent six years accusing innocent parents of infanticide.
But regardless of what we know, think we know, or imagine someone told us once, there’s really only one thing that matters.
There is a little girl who disappeared on May 3, 2007. No-one knows where she is, and we need to find out – for all our sakes.
Check out all the latest News, Sport & Celeb gossip at Mirror.co.uk http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-missing-whoevers-blame-2370176#ixzz2hhiF7nqU
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Madeleine McCann is missing and whoever's to blame, we have to find her
14 Oct 2013 14:28
FleetStreetFox on the new push to find Maddie six years, five months and 11 days after she went missing on holiday
Six years ago a little girl disappeared.
And that's it - that's pretty much all we know for sure. Madeleine McCann was there one minute and gone the next. She was a few days off her fourth birthday.
It's actually been six years, five months and 11 days since it happened. She'd be 10 now, on the cusp of adolescence, getting excited about going up to 'big school', and badgering her parents for Christmas presents.
Instead her parents are on Crimewatch tonight - and several other crime-solving programmes across Europe - publicising a new police investigation which is throwing up new leads and suspects.
No-one has seen much of it apart from a brief trailer, and no-one at all has heard what the new information might be. That hasn't stopped an awful lot of people having their say, with everything from off-colour jokes to wild accusations.
Not one person who makes them knows what's actually true. They're not criminal psychologists, they haven't sifted the evidence, and most of them can't begin to imagine what it must be like for your child to just drop off the radar like that.
It says a lot about human beings that the ability to presume the worst of strangers, on the basis of no evidence at all, is as undiminished today as it was when we crawled out of the swamp.
Perhaps the worst is true; stranger, and worse things have happened. But the fact is we don't know anything much beyond the fact that little girl was last seen sleeping in her family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal, in May 2007.
That doesn't stop anyone weighing in, however. The internet is awash with conspiracy theorists, armchair investigators, the well-intentioned, and just plain bored. Having been one of the many who reported on Madeleine's disappearance, I get sporadic abuse from these sorts for covering up a child's murder.
Which is nice. Obviously if I knew a child had been killed my first reaction would be to protect those responsible then earn online notoriety in the hope of one day having my crime exposed by someone who would need a run-up to get their head around simple arithmetic.
In fact having been a news reporter since I was 18, my first reaction is to look hard at stuff and then tell other people about it. You can make your own minds up, if you feel like reading it.
1. Praia da Luz consists of dust and rocks. There's nowhere to dispose of a body. If Madeleine was there, and dead, she'd have been found by now. There were some roadworks going on at the time she disappeared, and there was an oft-quoted theory among journalists covering the story she could have wandered into the night on her own and tipped in a hole, only to be covered up next day by unsuspecting roadworkers. As far as I know they've yet to have a look.
2. Kate and Gerry McCann were not as careful as they could have been. Hindsight makes this obvious, but the restaurant they were eating in with friends while taking it in turns to look in on their children was not as close as it seemed. It was within the same holiday complex, but between it and their apartment door were two high hedges customers could not see over, and a swimming pool. To check on their children they had to walk out of the complex, up the road for 80 yards, and back in again - and Madeleine was old enough to be able to open the door and wander out looking for her parents. The resort also boasted a babysitting service and there was no reason not to use it, if you felt like a night out.
THIS DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE MURDERERS. Nor does it constitute criminal neglect as some suggest - it's a mistake, and one they've no doubt thought about quite a lot.
3. The local police, once informed, made the Keystone Cops look like Poirot. They didn't close the borders that were a short drive away, they didn't watch the ports, they stamped all over the apartment and ground fag ash into the carpet. Thanks to the efforts of CSI Praia da Luz, any trace of intruders was lost, the first vital hours in which Madeleine was most likely to found were wasted, and while they collected mobile phone data they didn't bother to properly analyse it.
4. It’s an unpleasant fact of life that most people who kill or abuse children are family members. Predatory paedophiles are rare.
When they do strike, it’s all over and done pretty quickly. The victims are dead and disposed of within a few hours. In those hours Kate and Gerry McCann were running around Praia da Luz and talking to the police, and if they were abusive parents there’d be clear signs to their relatives and friends they were holidaying with. None have been discovered.
5. If it wasn’t Kate or Gerry, and if a body hasn’t been discovered, there’s only two options left. Either Madeleine was disposed of as thoroughly as April Jones – to the extent where there’s only a few bone fragments left lying around somewhere – or she’s still alive.
If she’s still alive, she needs to be found and returned to her family, and we all need to hope that Portugal doesn’t have its own version of Ariel Castro.
If she’s dead, she needs to be found, laid to rest, and her killer brought to justice.
Either way the Portuguese police need to get their backsides kicked all the way to Lisbon for their shocking contempt for basic police techniques, and for wasting months treating the McCanns as suspects when it got them not one step closer to finding Madeleine.
Personally I’d like to see the insane, vicious and unjustified half of Twitter suffer a sudden attack of logic and get in touch with their nicer sides to the extent they wonder what kind of scum they could be if they’ve spent six years accusing innocent parents of infanticide.
But regardless of what we know, think we know, or imagine someone told us once, there’s really only one thing that matters.
There is a little girl who disappeared on May 3, 2007. No-one knows where she is, and we need to find out – for all our sakes.
Check out all the latest News, Sport & Celeb gossip at Mirror.co.uk http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-missing-whoevers-blame-2370176#ixzz2hhiF7nqU
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Re: FleetStreetFox speaks out about the PJ and hatertrolls
bb1 Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:49 pm
Personally I’d like to see the insane, vicious and unjustified half of Twitter suffer a sudden attack of logic and get in touch with their nicer sides to the extent they wonder what kind of scum they could be if they’ve spent six years accusing innocent parents of infanticide
Check out all the latest News, Sport & Celeb gossip at Mirror.co.uk http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-missing-whoevers-blame-2370176#ixzz2hhiQHwkn
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We all know who she's talking about, don't we?
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We all know who she's talking about, don't we?
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Re: FleetStreetFox speaks out about the PJ and hatertrolls
rhodes Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:00 pm
they've told Butler n Nobby Lobby to eff off 
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Re: FleetStreetFox speaks out about the PJ and hatertrolls
lily Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:14 pm
Not shy is she in saying it as it is? 
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bb1 Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:15 pm
I seem to recall the nutjobs had managed to convince themselves she was secretly on their 'side' too - gathering material, more like.
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lily Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:30 pm
You bet she was, Bonny.
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bb1 Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:17 pm
Adelle @vulpeculiar 4h
@fleetstreetfox If anyone has conclusive evidence either way, surely they should be talking to the police rather than ranting on twitter?
fleetstreetfox @fleetstreetfox 4h
@vulpeculiar You'd think so, wouldn't you? Instead they're spending time photoshopping Kate's face onto Rose West.
Sadie Smith @smithsky1979 3h
The depressing realityof the human psyche can be revealed in all of its stinking awfulness by twitter-searching the word "McCann".
fleetstreetfox @fleetstreetfox 3h
Blocking spittle-flecked crazies. Such fun.
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She has their measure all right - and so does the rest of the media. And the police.
@fleetstreetfox If anyone has conclusive evidence either way, surely they should be talking to the police rather than ranting on twitter?
fleetstreetfox @fleetstreetfox 4h
@vulpeculiar You'd think so, wouldn't you? Instead they're spending time photoshopping Kate's face onto Rose West.
Sadie Smith @smithsky1979 3h
The depressing realityof the human psyche can be revealed in all of its stinking awfulness by twitter-searching the word "McCann".
fleetstreetfox @fleetstreetfox 3h
Blocking spittle-flecked crazies. Such fun.
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She has their measure all right - and so does the rest of the media. And the police.
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Re: FleetStreetFox speaks out about the PJ and hatertrolls
lily Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:21 pm
You would think the hounders, haters and Co. would take it onboard that they mean them.
Don't they ever stop and think about it?
Don't they ever stop and think about it?
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