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Post  Sabot Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:06 pm

Besides, what is there to say? Witnesses who never read his book. Witnesses who are his best buddies. Witnesses who can't remember and don't know noffink. And now witnesses who have been dismissed, or decided not to testify, not sure which. Hardly breaking news.
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Post  bb1 Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:16 pm

Notice that the full evidence from Gonc's chum that dropped him in it over his reasons for writing the thing, Antonio Paulo dos Santos, doesn't seem to have been posted in the Official Edited Reports?

The crucial section doesn't appear to have been even mentioned.

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Post  bb1 Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:27 pm

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She sure is. She's spreading outright lies and libel now, as well as encouraging all the one-handed typists who are enjoying speculating about their favourite topic.
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Post  Sabot Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:34 pm

Someone is going to have to do something about her when the libel trial is over. And this is one I can hardly wait to see.
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Post  bb1 Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:51 pm

Yes, she's one of the worst muck-spreaders, and totally devoid of any conscience about what she's doing, so devoted is Hoho to Gonzo. One could almost pity her, if she didn't take such delight in hurting Madeleine and her family.
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Post  Sabot Thu Nov 21, 2013 2:06 pm

I think she does actually have to be mentally ill. Her rant's never make sense and her videos are full of such obvious and provable lies that she completely fails to see.
And after her putrid and simpering debut on The Justice Forum where she was eventually called on to justify herself, she went completely over the top, spreading her lies and libel even further and wider.
How dare we question her? This is narcissism in the extreme. And she won't shut up until someone shuts her up.
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Post  muratfan Thu Nov 21, 2013 2:16 pm

You would have thought that Duarte Levy would produce the 24 photos for Amoral wouldn't you
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Post  bb1 Thu Nov 21, 2013 2:29 pm

You would also have thought that Gonzo would have produced that Ace, wouldn't you? If he had, he wouldn't be in this mess now.

The spinning going on on the hate sites over this is a wonder to behold.


The Judge reminds the Court of the principle that when a Party declares to another Party that a requested document does not exist or is not in their possession, the legal remedy is not for the pursuer to make a further request but to prove through whatever means that the respondent is being untruthful. The Judge therefore grants a request by the plaintiffs that receipts be provided as previously requested since the defender has failed to produce the information sought.

Does that sound as if the judge thinks Gonc has told the truth about his income? No, it doesn't - if she believed him, then there would have been no need to issue the order to produce the receipts.

Oh wait - did Gonzo know this was coming, hence his lie-and-smear-a-thon over the weekend to divert attention?

I shouldn't think that impressed the judge much, right in the middle of a libel trial - or Gonc's own lawyer, who had previously told him to STFU.

I wonder if Gonc's latest stunt had any bearing on the defence not bothering to call a good few of their witnesses? There really isn't much defence for what Gonc did, after all -those lie-filled broadcasts were  stupidity on an epic scale, IMO.
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Post  Sabot Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:27 pm

Nope, that bolded bit still doesn't make sense.

UNLESS, HA HA, Isabel Duarte proved to The Judge that Amaral was being UNTRUTHFUL. And Anne Guedes left that bit out.

Now that would make sense.



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Post  bb1 Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:29 pm

She's cut chunks out of other testimonies, so it's quite possible - IMO, the Official Edited Court Reports are NOT designed to give an accurate view of what's going on.

Just to make the Gonc Fan Club think everything's going swimmingly for their idol. Which it isn't.
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Post  Sabot Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:37 pm

Well now, Anne Guedes is hardly going to report that The Judge decided that Amaral was being untruthful, is she.
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Post  lily Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:01 pm


The Judge reminds the Court of the principle that when a Party declares to another Party that a requested document does not exist or is not in their possession, the legal remedy is not for the pursuer to make a further request but to prove through whatever means that the respondent is being untruthful. The Judge therefore grants a request by the plaintiffs that receipts be provided as previously requested since the defender has failed to produce the information sought.

So, did Gonc try to wriggle out of producing the requested receipts by saying they didn't have a copy? I guess the judge would be pretty annoyed by that.

Maybe he had tried to lowball the figures as the word 'damages' may have surfaced?
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Post  bb1 Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:22 pm

Have the hounders been infiltrated? Just asking, because suddenly, an awful lot of people seem to be experts on Drachen Sachen's favourite topic. vomit vomit vomit 
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Post  Sabot Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:23 pm

lily wrote:
The Judge reminds the Court of the principle that when a Party declares to another Party that a requested document does not exist or is not in their possession, the legal remedy is not for the pursuer to make a further request but to prove through whatever means that the respondent is being untruthful. The Judge therefore grants a request by the plaintiffs that receipts be provided as previously requested since the defender has failed to produce the information sought.

So, did Gonc try to wriggle out of producing the requested receipts by saying they didn't have a copy?  I guess the judge would be pretty annoyed by that.

Maybe he had tried to lowball the figures as the word 'damages' may have surfaced?
So it seems that Isabel Duarte had to prove that Amaral was being untruthful. Which she appears to have done, as The Judge granted her request.
And apparently Amaral has failed to produce this evidence right from the start.

I know that the first several book payments were documented because I have seen them. All taxed at source, as it happens. But I don't know about any later ones. Or any records of what Amaral was paid for Television or Newspaper Interviews, none of whom appear to be involved in this case, like Dear Julia.

So Amaral is still trying his tricks with The Court. But this court isn't having it.

And the one thing you don't do is to treat a Judge like a fool where all of the world can see, even if that Judge is somehow on your side. Which I very much doubt in this case.

Amaral thinks that he is still living in a Fascist State. Deluded or what?
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Post  lily Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:31 pm

We don't know that Ms. Duarte had to prove it, Sabot.  It may have been some spinning going on by one pretendy court reporter?

Ms Duarte may have stated that she had not received the requested documents in time as promised by the other side?  Therefore the judge made an order for it to be done?
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Post  bb1 Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:33 pm

You have indeed seen them, Sabot - they're here:

http://justice4mccannfam.5forum.biz/t3821-so-gonc-has-no-money

Some fairly large sums of money went into his pocket.
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Post  Sabot Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:47 pm

lily wrote:We don't know that Ms. Duarte had to prove it, Sabot.  It may have been some spinning going on by one pretendy court reporter?

Ms Duarte may have stated that she had not received the requested documents in time as promised by the other side?  Therefore the judge made an order for it to be done?
No. we don't know, Lily. And Miss Guedes isn't going to tell us. The request was granted. So what is good about this for Gonc?
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Post  Sabot Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:51 pm

bb1 wrote:You have indeed seen them, Sabot - they're here:

http://justice4mccannfam.5forum.biz/t3821-so-gonc-has-no-money

Some fairly large sums of money went into his pocket.
Thanks, Bonny. I knew that I had seen them. So Gonc must have had them. And that is just The Book, up to a point. Thank God for The Internet.
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Post  lily Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:54 pm

Sabot, there is nothing good there for Gonc.

It would appear that libel has been admitted/proved so they are now down to the damages part of the trial?

That is why the court would want to see proof of income from the books/documentary etc.

This is only an opinion, but I think that Gonc has to cough up. He is trying to fool the court into believing that the receipts are much smaller than they really are? The judge saw through it and ordered what she needed so she can make the award of damages?

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Post  bb1 Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:58 pm

Cristabel totalled up the receipts shown:

http://justice4mccannfam.5forum.biz/t3821p15-so-gonc-has-no-money

€343.900.67 TOTAL

And that is only the handful shown there.
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Post  lily Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:01 pm

Was the sequester around 1.2 million euros?
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Post  Sabot Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:19 pm

I knew that the sum was well in excess of 300,000 Euros just for the books at that time. But no one seems to know what happened to the rest of Gonc's earnings, or how much they were. But from what I remember the 1.2Million was based on what The McCanns thought that Gonc had earned overall.
Obviously, The Court in sequestering, thought that their knowledge of what Gonc was worth was insufficient. Which is why they sequestered the house as well.

In the end it doesn't matter how much is left after his spending sprees, and you can't take back a Face Lift. The Court will award what it thinks is fair.

Attempting to bamboozle The Court was a very bad idea. But Amaral must have thought that he could get away with it. Four years on and he is still trying to do just that.
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Post  lily Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:41 pm

Attempting to bamboozle The Court was a very bad idea. But Amaral must have thought that he could get away with it. Four years on and he is still trying to do just that.

Spot on. It seems that the end is in sight. I realize that Gonc can stall until Kingdom Come, but there will be the bottom line of what he is expected to pay. It will eat at him.

The witnesses were dismissed because the end of that part of the case had arrived with damage assessment?

Guedes could hardly 'report' on that, could she? No wonder her fiction took so long to see the light of day on the Injustice site.

I believe that we all are of one mind in that the McCanns would far rather have their daughter returned to them than to receive any amount of money from Gonc et al.

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Post  Sabot Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:17 pm

Always and Always, Lily.

And I still cannot get my head around him or these awful people. What on earth did or do they think they were doing? They have absolutely no proof so why do they come down on the side of the worst?
Is this what will happen on the next occasion that a child id abducted?

Sorry. Stupid question.
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Post  lily Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:27 pm

Their hard wiring seems to be malfunctioning so yes, no change there.
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