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Post  Pedro Silva Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:40 am

My friends, this was taken from i newspaper:

http://www.ionline.pt/artigos/portugal/maddie-pj-avisa-ingleses-nao-quer-ver-investigacao-nos-jornais/pag/-1

PJ warns Englishmen that don´t want to see investigation in the newspapers.

The PJ inspectors state that the " international cooperation there is no room for states of mind "

Different communication strategies between the Portuguese and British authorities in the Madeleine case are bothering PJ . The discomfort went so far athat PJ have warned Metropolitan Police that refuses to do investigation through newspapers . Since the British police decided to investigate on their own the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, the British press began to publish frequently about the ongoing efforts . Much of this news turned out to be unfounded , diverging from the possibility of cooperation with the PJ . At issue is the fact that the two police forces have different lines of investigation and also communication policies are opposite , confirmed to i some inspectors , who preferred to remain anonymous .

According to knowledgeable sources in the process, the PJ have already informed the British counterparts that " wants to continue to do his investigation on the process and not in the newspapers ." A caution to make it clear they do not want the English police sources speak out about alleged facts of the Portuguese investigation . Because, they say , is something that the British did not know . In Portugal there is an ongoing investigation conducted by a team from Oporto, but are elements of the PJ of Portimão who have responded to letters rogatory sent by the British, ie , applications for aid for investigation from London .

The strategy of the Portuguese - not to make public information about their investigation - was already known to the British, but some reports citing anonymous sources have forced the Metropolitan Police this notice . " The PJ will continue with the necessary discretion , which is aware of its British counterpart . The media is out of our equation during the investigation . And it was never said that there is suspicious because there is nothing strong enough ," explained the police source .

Yet last week a report was published in Portugal realizing that the English had received from a secret dossier of PJ about burglars who lived in the Algarve and that might have even committed crimes against children. To i , the same source ensures that this information is false : " . Was not any secret dossier delivered to the Metropolitan Police" Another next element of the process explained , however, that what the British called secret dossier can not pass the list of people joined who lived near the Praia da Luz and that PJ sent in fulfilling a letter rogatory .

In recent months , the British media reported every suspicious Scotland Yard published the robot portraits police - hi revealed that they were made by detectives ultimately paid by the parents of the child - and brought the audience to send the three letters rogatory of English investigators before the Portuguese authorities become aware of these requests for international assistance .

That was not filmed in Portugal - - ​​and broadcast in England, Germany and the Netherlands a reconstruction of the night of the crime was taken . After the " thousands of clues " that the Metropolitan Police told the media he had received following the issue of television programs , the strategy remains the tracking of mobile phones that were near the Ocean Club resort on the night of May 3, 2007 , the day the child disappeared .

For the elements of PJ contacted by i , these behaviors will not affect cooperation between the two police forces . " The rogatory will be fulfilled in the most committed as possible because in international cooperation there is no room for states of mind ," concluded the source of PJ .
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Post  bb1 Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:34 am

According to knowledgeable sources in the process

That generally translates as:

Gonzo and his chums invented this to sh*t stir.
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Post  lily Mon Mar 03, 2014 3:16 pm

They would never do that would they?  Pcorneater 
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Post  Sabot Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:26 pm

Since most of the shite is coming from The Portuguese Madia and being picked up by the Uk Madia, as usual, I think I will take this with a bucket of salt.
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Post  bb1 Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:33 am

Fascinating to see the McCann-haters in full shriek, under the impression that this is a genuine news article, and not just some rather clunky Team Gonzo propaganda.

Wonder who wrote it? Someone like that deluded fool McFadden that boasts about giving Gonzo $30 every month, mayhap?

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Post  lily Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:56 pm

It's so bi-polar of them isn't it? They get all excited by some article that gives them hope then crash back down when the truth emerges.

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Post  Pedro Silva Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:16 pm

these antis are becoming more insane.
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Post  bb1 Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:24 pm

Indeed. Even though no-one thought they could possibly have an even looser grasp on reality, they keep on managing it.

Which is good.
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Post  Pedro Silva Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:52 pm

due to the fact of antis are insane,

their insane brains don´t allow them to understand that every time they insist in their madness, they are exposing themselves to the ridiculous, but, that is what to expect from them
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Post  bb1 Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:49 pm

concluded the source of PJ

Makes me chuckle every time I see that. It's a bit like, The cheque is in the post and The dog ate my homework.
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Post  lily Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:07 pm

bb1 wrote:concluded the source of PJ

Makes me chuckle every time I see that. It's a bit like, The cheque is in the post and The dog ate my homework.

Yer well.....it keeps the hope going for some folk.  biggrin Pcorneater 
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Post  bb1 Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:59 pm

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/exclusivo-cm/gang-mata-idoso-em-assalto

Gang kills elderly in assault
76 year old man assaulted and suffocated with a pillow at home.


PJ warns Englishmen that don´t want to see investigation in the newspaper 2014-03-04222142_CA967162-B341-4FEB-88DD-FECB0766BF67$$738d42d9-134c-4fbe-a85a-da00e83fdc20$$d800ad56-d308-44ab-bb49-428af4540d40$$odia_imagem_grande$$pt$$1

Woman survived three robbers pretending to be dead

Thought Portuguese burglars were all kindly, and shy? Terrified of people, in fact?
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Post  lily Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:34 pm

Shocked  Don't tell me that the Portuguese Gonc lovers such as Morais, Guedes, Luz and their ilk got it wrong?
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Post  bb1 Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:02 am

Hounder:

SY isnt publishing either are they?  So are they bungling it too?
Would they really tell the papers first before arresting anyone?

At least the portuguese published the files, now let's see if SY will too


What? Does the hounder really expect the Yard to drive a coach and horses through the Official Secrets Act, and trash every concept of confidentiality, to give a shower of armchair defectives fuel for another five years of one-handed typing?

I don't think so!

And the PJ files were NOT supposed to be published. Portugal foolishly trusted the likes of Levy and his ilk to use them responsibly, not to spread copies of the DVD everywhere, and for amateur mistranslations to appear all over the internet.

These creatures really are reality-challenged.
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Post  Sabot Sat Mar 08, 2014 4:23 pm

I am so tired of all of this. Portugal is a Fascist State run by The Fascist PJ, and the mainly Fascist Judiciary.
Tragically, but for the abduction of Madeleine McCann, the likes of we would have remained in ignorance. So I am not placing too much faith in the cooperation of Portugal at this time.
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Post  bb1 Sat Mar 08, 2014 4:37 pm

It's not all like that, but sadly, there have been too many mini police states within the supposedly democratic state - the Algarve being a prime example.

It will be interesting to see where - and who - this business of bad elements in the PJ taking bribes from drug traffickers leads to.
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Post  Sabot Sat Mar 08, 2014 4:49 pm

The Mini Police States seem fairly wide spread to me. Certainly Lisbon, and now even in Madeira. And these people do all move around.
However, I don't suppose that Amaral would be the only one to be implicated.

Any news on Cristovao and his little sidelines?
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Post  bb1 Sat Mar 08, 2014 4:54 pm

Last we heard, he'd opted for a part-jury trial, Sabot, and whatever it is happens in Portugal to select their mini-juries were underway. I do hope that isn't so he can find new people to intimidate.  Wink 
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Post  Sabot Sat Mar 08, 2014 5:05 pm

But it will be to intimidate them. And The Judges as well, if what I have seen is anything to go by.
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Post  lily Sat Mar 08, 2014 5:09 pm

They are the kind of tough guys who would be terrified if just one person bigger than themselves caught them in a dark lonely alleyway.....

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Post  bb1 Sat Mar 08, 2014 5:10 pm

If Cristovao has lost his money, and his power, he won't be intimidating anyone, Sabot. He does seem to have fallen a very long way, and his name is mud in Portugal.

It was interesting to see what the first two names that came to mind in the Portuguese comments on the drug bribes story - Amaral and Cristovao.

Now, the dirty cops involved could be anyone - but very revealing that those two were the first Portuguese folk thought of.
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Post  Sabot Sat Mar 08, 2014 5:18 pm

Portugal fights back.  But then we knew that this was happening.  The people don't need to be afraid anymore.
Quite spectacular, really.  And they have done it all to themselves.

Poor Madeleine.
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Post  bb1 Sat Mar 08, 2014 5:56 pm

Here's the thing. Dirty cops are automatically incompetent cops. They can't actually 'investigate' anything, because all that drives them is self-interest.

Child goes missing? Round up the Usual Suspects, slap them around a bit, make sure they're smeared in the gutter press and banged away and forgotten about, and go back to your happy, if corrupt, existence as the Big Man.

The 'slapping around' bit didn't work with the McCanns, not least because the British Embassy knew all about previous Slapping Arounds.

And sending the wrong person to Spain on EAWs involving drugs charges. Thankfully, the Spanish police noticed they'd been sent entirely the wrong suspect.
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Post  Sabot Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:07 pm

Sadly, they seem to have gotten away with this incompetence for quite some time. Like about forty years since their inglorious Revolution when they merely changed the name of the game but not the game itself.
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Post  bb1 Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:14 pm

they merely changed the name of the game but not the game itself

Ding ding ding!
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