Hague stepping down as Foreign Secretary

OK, I don't believe a word of this. No way would Hague be stepping down voluntarily right NOW.

  

Not only has he been a first class Foreign Secretary -


Yes, well, apart from a few minor incidents like announcing Gaddafi had fled to Venezuela and poncing around like a male model with Ketchup Kerry and Anjelina Jolie.....

The worst part is, whoever replaces him will be even worse.

As if it makes any difference whether an incompetent idiot is a male or female incompetent idiot! How patronising.

There's rumours flying that Esther McVey is going to be promoted. That should set the conspiraloons off, bigtime.

I'm not a fan of these stories, they always seem to involve an awful lot of smoke and very little fire, but....

Senior Tory cabinet ministers were supplied with underage boys for sex parties, it is sensationally claimed.

Former Conservative activist Anthony Gilberthorpe said he told Margaret Thatcher 25 years ago about what he had witnessed and gave her names of those involved.

His allegations that he saw top Tories having sex with boys comes after David Cameron launched a Government inquiry into claims of a cover-up.

Anthony, 52, said: “I am prepared to speak to the inquiry. I believe I am a key witness.”

Trawling seedy streets during a Tory conference, Gilberthorpe says he was asked to find underage rent boys for a private sex party at a top hotel.

Today, more than three decades later, he claims he was acting on the orders of some of the most senior figures of Margaret Thatcher’s government.

Anthony says he was a ­full-time ­political activist when he helped procure the “youngest and prettiest” boys for several cabinet ministers after being told to find “entertainment”.

In a series of explosive claims about conferences at Blackpool and Brighton in the 1980s, he alleges boys as young as 15 indulged in alcohol and cocaine before they had sex with the powerful politicians.

He says one person who attended a party is a current serving minister.



http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tory-child-abuse-whistleblower-i-3848987#ixzz37TrzHV7x
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Ken Clarke, who has also just quit, was a leftover from the Thatcher era.

Sorry, not believing you get rid of your Foreign Secretary at a time like this because he's a middle-aged bloke.

Especially when you replace him with another middle-aged bloke that's even more right-wing and warmongering than Hague:

http://news.sky.com/story/1301017/gove-leaves-education-job-as-hague-quits



He hates gays, Europe, Russkis, etc.......just about anyone that isn't a white, middle-aged male, in face. Oh, and rich like him.

To me it makes sense. For all Labours posturing, they are not going to get in power at the next election. So with Hague stepping down as an MP and that it makes sense someone else comes in who would most probably be in the job after the election

Ah, but why has Hague really quit 'to write history books'? On the same day as Clarke quits?

Ken Clarke quit before he was pushed. Clarke has been useless.

To be honest, I thought Clarke was dead, I am none too sure what he did....

Time will tell, but rumours are flying that a mega-scandal is about to engulf the Tory party.

bb1 wrote:To be honest, I thought Clarke was dead, I am none too sure what he did....

Time will tell, but rumours are flying that a mega-scandal is about to engulf the Tory party.

Not another one! I bet that's Tom Watson flapping his lip, he just sallivates at the idea of scandals in other parties, but is very quiet when something happens in his own. Rumors, tittle-tattle, happens all the time. That's why I steer clear of politics. LL

This one's slightly different, LL, it's escaped from the world of conspiraloonacy and gone mainstream:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tory-child-abuse-whistleblower-i-3848987#ixzz37TrzHV7x

bb1 wrote:This one's slightly different, LL, it's escaped from the world of conspiraloonacy and gone mainstream:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tory-child-abuse-whistleblower-i-3848987#ixzz37TrzHV7x

How very convenient, coming up to a General Election in, as I recall, a year and a half. Makes a change I suppose from the Germans kicking out US spies. And how come this activist kept stumm for 25 years - now what does that remind me of? LL

I don't like conspiraloonacy, LL, as far as I am concerned, it's just bread and circuses rubbish to take the voters' eyes off the genuine plotting and scheming involving those time-honoured favourites, money and power.

BUT - there's something very stinky being covered up at Westminster, IMO, and the lid is coming off the boiling pot. How leading LibDems could claim to have known nothing about Cyril Smith, I do not know. Rumours abounded when the old monster was alive, FFS.

This one is liable to top Profumo and Jeremy Thorpe. And I still want to see Justice for Rinka!   

bb1 wrote:Ah, but why has Hague really quit 'to write history books'? On the same day as Clarke quits?

To spend more time with his family?

I've detested Hague ever since I first saw him crawling to Thatcher as a child prodigy Tory....



And his activities over the years have done nothing to change my mind. There is NO way he would resign voluntarily, he's way too fond of strutting the world's stage being important.

Who's Rinka?   Don't remember a UK MP of that name, but then I know far less about UK politics than Austrian politics.   LL

Rinka was the dog owned by Thorpe's alleged male lover, Norman Scott. She was shot dead on Dartmoor as part of an alleged plot by Thorpe and other Liberals to silence Scott:

http://www.express.co.uk/expressyourself/99798/The-downfall-of-Jeremy-Thorpe

Scott, who now lived in Thorpe’s constituency, was making more trouble with outbursts. Money had failed to silence him. According to one of Thorpe’s closest friends David Holmes, who had now been drawn into the affair, the Liberal leader was “so obsessed” with Scott that “he conceived an almost manic desire to have him killed”. Thus, said the prosecution at the Old Bailey, was born the conspiracy to murder Scott.

It was said that Holmes and Bessell brought in two other men to assist in the plan, businessman George Deakin and carpet retailer John Le Mesurier. According to Bessell various schemes were devised for getting rid of Scott. One was to lure him to a bar and lace his drink with poison. Another was to push him down a disused mine shaft but eventually a more straightforward plan was drawn up: a shooting by a lone gunman.

Airline pilot Andrew Newton, who was looking to raise a lot of cash quickly to fund his hedonistic lifestyle, was reportedly hired for between £10,000 and £20,000 to do the deed.

But the plot went horribly wrong. As instructed, Newton, posing as a journalist, met Scott in Devon and then with Scott’s Great Dane Rinka in tow drove out to Dartmoor. There, in his account, he ordered Scott and the dog out of the car before shooting Rinka and turning the gun on Scott.

But the firearm jammed and Scott ran off into the mists of Dartmoor. Furious with his ineptitude Newton drove away. A short time later Scott was found weeping at the road over the corpse of his dog. The Thorpe affair had become a criminal matter.

The whole scandal eventually led to Thorpe standing trial for hiring a gunman to kill Scott. To the amazement of most of the nation, Thorpe was found Not Guilty but it was the end of his career.

It might have been better if he HAD had Scott shot, instead of the dog. Allegedly.

Thanks, how totally boring and puerile.   I am glad I declined an offer when I was much younger to stand as a UK MP.  I would have been totally out of my depth if I had agreed.  Sticking to what I knew best was a very sensible decision, I would have been a fish out of water amongst all this wheeling and dealing. LL

It's very unsavoury, isn't it?

I somehow suspect that if Thorpe had personally shot his alleged lover and pled insanity, he might have had some public sympathy. It was the fact that it was the dog that got shot that finished him, after a verdict about as convincing as OJ's.....

Marion Whatshername must have thought he was innocent, and stuck by him through thick and thin, until she died a short time ago

PS. I was upset about the dog.

Yes, it was the dog getting shot that really upset everyone, not political bedhopping.