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Post  bb1 Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:59 pm

I would not be at all surprised if their stupid twitter account was on Windows 98, with free AVG security, Lily, it's what was posted that should be the concern.

There was one pic that appeared to have been taken with a cameraphone, inside some kind of military facility - lots of people in Army uniforms were walking around and at desks.

There were also long lists of names and addresses - whose, I do not know.

There's always the possibility it was an inside job to convince Americans that it's OK for NSA to spy on them even more, but I don't think it was in this case. More like, how else can we embarrass the US, after the no-show by their cowardy custard President and his chums?
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Post  lily Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:21 pm

Shocked mad

That's all I can say......
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Post  bb1 Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:26 pm

Thing is, Lily, if you weren't actually online, and didn't see what had been posted before the twitter feed was shut down, you would be somewhat in the dark about what had been posted.

A non-internet person might think it consisted of, Curse you, infidels, Obama has big ears or some such rubbish. It wasn't, it was far more serious than a stupid hashtag getting hacked.
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Post  lily Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:31 pm

Thank you, Bonny.
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Post  bb1 Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:51 pm

This is actually a fair summary of what happened, Lily:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-12/isis-supporters-hack-us-centcoms-account-threaten-us-soldiers-release-personal-detai


We won't stop! We know everything about you, your wives and children.
U.S. soldiers! We're watching you!

Here's a part of confidential data from your mobile devices:


Links to the files follow, but I am not posting that, and neither am I going to try to find out if they're still active.

Thing is, they weren't on the # as links, they were there as screenshots. There were dozens - hundreds - of names, addresses, etc.
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Post  lily Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:11 pm

OMG that is horrendous!

Don't blame you for not wanting to click on links etc. You shouldn't.
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Post  bb1 Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:18 pm

Meanwhile the prime minister, Pedro Passos Coelho, was among those who visited France's embassy in Lisbon to sign a book of condolences, in which he transcribed a text expressing his "total solidarity" with France's authorities and people, and "deep condolences" for the families of the victims.

The text of the parliamentary resolution expresses consternation and sadness at the events in Paris as well as its solidarity with the families of the victims and the surviving staff of 'Charlie Hebdo'.

After the vote, members of parliament observed a one-minute silence.

"Paris is now the place where we all live," the resolution declares. "The place where a new impetus is generated, an impetus of will for an unyielding and daily struggle for dignity and rights, for freedom and democracy."

It stressed that although violence and attacked "our newspapers, those places where freedom is exercised and democracy pulses", this "horror" will not prompt the betrayal of democracy.
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Post  bb1 Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:33 pm

Some are made of sterner stuff than me:

http://rt.com/usa/221927-central-command-hackedcybercaliphate/

Another tweet, linking to what appeared to be a roster of US military personnel, contained a phone number listed as belonging to Gen. Keith Alexander, the former chief of both CENTCOM and the National Security Agency. When dialed, RT reached the office of Admiral Mike Rogers, Alexander's replacement, and was referred to CENTCOM's public affairs office where the call then went unanswered.
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Post  lily Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:52 pm

Amazing. Eek
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Post  Lamplighter Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:10 am

Paris attacks: ’I am not Charlie’
By Patrick Jackson BBC News, Sarcelles
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30790412

Breakingnews     Bulgaria arrests Frenchman with alleged links to Paris attackers: prosecutors
January 13, 2015
SOFIA (AFP) - A Frenchman arrested in Bulgaria on January 1 trying to cross into Turkey was in contact with one of the men who carried out Islamist attacks in Paris last week, prosecutors said Tuesday.
Fritz-Joly Joachin, 29, a French citizen of Haitian origin, "was in contact several times with one of the two brothers -- Cherif Kouachi," public prosecutor Darina Slavova told AFP.
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Post  Jean-Pierre.t50 Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:09 am

In response to Fox News Steve Emerson's claim that Birmingham is a "no go" area for non muslims, and also parts of London are under Sharia Law, there were a couple of priceless comments:

A picture of Birmingham's BT tower was posted, with the cation "The city's mosque is one of the tallest and most sacred in all Islam"

A photo of the Queen in a headscarf - noting that she is foced to wear the ijab due to sharia law enforcement in the UK.

And news that Muslims are controlling the weather in theUK - "in some places its Sunni, but mainly it's Shi'ite"

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Post  Sabot Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:46 am

Jean-Pierre.t50 wrote:In response to Fox News Steve Emerson's claim that Birmingham is a "no go" area for non muslims, and also parts of London are under Sharia Law, there were a couple of priceless comments:

A picture of Birmingham's BT tower was posted, with the cation "The city's mosque is one of the tallest and most sacred in all Islam"

A photo of the Queen in a headscarf - noting that she is foced to wear the ijab due to sharia law enforcement in the UK.

And news that Muslims are controlling the weather in theUK - "in some places its Sunni, but mainly it's Shi'ite"

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

Priceless. And B*gger, I am going to have to stop wearing my Pure Silk, Designer Head Scarf in favour of my old Flat Cap.
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Post  bb1 Tue Jan 13, 2015 11:22 am

In the interests of Free Speach and all that, we really ought to show this week's Charlie cover:

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But don't turn it upside down. Oh dear me no, whatever you do, don't do that. That would be Bad.
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Post  bb1 Tue Jan 13, 2015 11:43 am

An excellent piece, as ever, by Ron Paul:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-12/ron-paul-lessons-paris


Ron Paul: "Lessons From Paris"

It was, IMO, a tragedy for the US and the wider world that his run for the presidency went nowhere; he's intelligent, for starters.
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Post  lily Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:55 pm

J-P, that is hilarious. Thanks for the laugh. hug
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Post  Sabot Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:58 pm

bb1 wrote:In the interests of Free Speach and all that, we really ought to show this week's Charlie cover:

10 KILLED IN PARIS-shot dead UPDATE Fri morning more DEAD in shootout - Page 11 Charlie%20hebdo%20cover

But don't turn it upside down. Oh dear me no, whatever you do, don't do that. That would be Bad.

It would never have crossed my mind to turn it upside down. But you have to admit that it's, erm, clever?
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Post  Pedro Silva Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:05 pm

free speech is no reason to murder, but, the newspaper should also known that they are not dealing with reasonable people.
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Post  bb1 Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:19 pm

France is secular, and proud of it, Pedro. The magazine is NOT preaching race hatred, it is laughing at a belief system, which is perfectly legal.

How would any of us like it if, say, communists or fascists demanded greater rights than the rest of us, and slaughtered people if anyone laughed at them?

Simple - we wouldn't. That magazine is rude about everyone, not just about 'Allah'; it doesn't discriminate in who or what it insults. It's not a magazine I would rush out and buy, partly because that kind of French humour doesn't translate well into English.

If people wish to live in theocracies, well, I am sure Saudi Arabia - currently holding the world record for State beheadings - would welcome them. They might find Iran and other emerging Islamic nations a bit too liberal for their taste these days.

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Post  bb1 Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:24 pm

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/birmingham-now-100-percent-klingon-2015011394318

Birmingham now 100 percent Klingon

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BIRMINGHAM has become the UK’s first all-Klingon city.

The transition was complete as the last non-Klingon emerged from a public lavatory and was then placed in a laser-cannon and fired into the upper atmosphere.

The city’s name has been changed to ‘Arkmapnak’ and its promotional slogan is now ‘Kirk Marap Koobanak’, which means ‘Kirk molested a spaniel’.

Balak Goprak, the leader of the city council, said: “I challenge you now, Kirk. Come to Arkmapnak, if you have the courage.”

Asked how the city will address complaints over refuse collection timetables, Goprak replied: “Kirk, you and your decrepit comrades will beg for mercy as I wield the Triple Axe of Charkogdok.”

Meanwhile, the city’s football teams have been incinerated and the National Exhibition Centre is now home to the deadly Klingon sport of Pang-Pong.



Hope no-one from Fox sees that. Pcorneater
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Post  Jean-Pierre.t50 Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:43 pm

bb1 wrote:France is secular, and proud of it, Pedro. The magazine is NOT preaching race hatred, it is laughing at a belief system, which is perfectly legal.

How would any of us like it if, say, communists or fascists demanded greater rights than the rest of us, and slaughtered people if anyone laughed at them?

Simple - we wouldn't. That magazine is rude about everyone, not just about 'Allah'; it doesn't discriminate in who or what it insults. It's not a magazine I would rush out and buy, partly because that kind of French humour doesn't translate well into English.

If people wish to live in theocracies, well, I am sure Saudi Arabia - currently holding the world record for State beheadings - would welcome them. They might find Iran and other emerging  Islamic nations a bit too liberal for their taste these days.


Interesting discussion with a friend, who is a devout Muslim.

I gather that accounding to the Koran, the prohibition on images of The Prophet apply only to Muslims - and similar to the commanment not to make graven images - it is to discourage idolatory and to keep the religion pure.


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Post  bb1 Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:09 pm

Thanks, Jean Pierre, that's interesting. I have no desire to make graven images of anyone. Except maybe the Harlow Hounder on occasion, and that rather involves a lot of pins. biggrin
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Post  lily Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:46 pm

That is rather similar to Jews. Mind you, they do share a lot of things from their early practices.
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