9 KILLED IN SHOOTING AT AFRICAN AMERICAN CHURCH IN CHARLESTON, S CAROLINA

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33179019

9 killed as they were at worship, shooter being sought.   The church's pastor, state Senator Clementa Pinckney, was among those killed. The police are treating it as a hate crime, the FBI are involved, and the latest is that they have a description of the suspect - white man about 21, sandy blond hair, slender, small build, wearing a grey sweat shirt, blue jeans, timberland boots, clean shaven.   LL

Madness, LL. I am afraid race relations in the US are at just about their lowest in decades - mainly thanks to Obama and others in his administration. I'm just surprised it doesn't happen more often, after so many attacks on white Americans - it started with the knockout game, progressed to polar bears, and now bad elements in the black community are attacking white Americans Just Because. Someone was bound to retaliate.

More here:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/18/police-respond-to-shooting-at-sc-church/

It's almost certainly race related, unless there is some bizarre personal motive, like the gunman having been dumped by a teenage female member of the congregation.

Or has something to do with politics.

Among the dead was the church's pastor, state Sen. Clementa Pinckney, 41, who had been a pastor since he was 18. Pinckney was the youngest African-American elected to the South Carolina legislature when he won office in 1996 at age 23 and had been a state senator since 2000. The other victims were not immediately identified.

Al Sharpton is heading for the town, so you can just about guarantee things are going to get even worse.

Al Sharpton is heading for the town, so you can just about guarantee things are going to get even worse.

He's already been on TV screaming about race hatred and is obviously hell bent on raising a riot, if his past actions are anything to go by. LL

I missed that, thank Heavens. Unfortunately, you just KNOW he's going to milk this tragedy for all its worth. Which means more American cities going up in flames, and more innocent people - of all ethnicity - being injured and killed.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/18/police-respond-to-shooting-at-sc-church/

Suspect in #Charleston shooting identified as 21 yr old Dylann Roof. If you know his whereabouts, call 1-800-CALL-FBI



That looks to me very like the South African Boer flag he has on his jacket:



I can't make out what the green one is. Apparently, he was previously up on drugs charges:

The other one is for the old Rhodesia.  It's like we have stepped back in time.........

The patches on Roof's jacket in his Facebook profile photo appear to match the flags for Apartheid-era South Africa (upper right) and Rhodesia. LL
http://heavy.com/news/2015/06/dylann-roof-pictures-photographs-photos-instagram-twitter-facebook/4/

Ah, well spotted, Lily, so it is!



It's like we have stepped back in time.........

That's just what I was thinking, I thought the days of Black Americans being murdered in churches were long gone, and it somehow seems worse this time?

I don't know, I am just an observer, but everyone seems so angry, to be spoiling for a fight constantly.

It seems the alleged shooter is now in custody, so we may find out more about him. I have a horrible feeling, though, that he isn't going to have any complicated motives.....

Rhodesia was a white supremicist state, just like apartheid SA. LL

Yup, he really does have a distinctive numberplate....

Lamplighter wrote:Rhodesia was a white supremicist state, just like apartheid SA.   LL

I don't think his motives are going to turn out to be at all complicated, LL, from these pictures. But God help America in the weeks to come, and when he goes on trial. Sharpton and co will be playing the race card for all it's worth, and Aryan nation will be locking and loading.

Good job all those troops are going to be practising for civil unrest in Jade Helm....it's a conspiracy theorist's dream come true. Or Charles Manson's.

bb1 wrote:Ah, well spotted, Lily, so it is!



It's like we have stepped back in time.........

That's just what I was thinking, I thought the days of Black Americans being murdered in churches were long gone, and it somehow seems worse this time?

I don't know, I am just an observer, but everyone seems so angry, to be spoiling for a fight constantly.

It seems the alleged shooter is now in custody, so we may find out more about him. I have a horrible feeling, though, that he isn't going to have any complicated motives.....

It's enough to make a person's stomach feel like it is dropping through the floor......

Maybe it's just me, Bonny, but this doesn't feel like the America I know.  It's different and not in a good way.

I swear it's Obama, Lily, he seems to have managed to set American against American, turn what had been minor niggles between different groups into outright warfare.

And look around the world - everything he has touched has turned to chaos and death. I don't believe it's all just a coincidence, I think he is doing it deliberately.

Back to Soros - he is not only funding the trouble in Ukraine, he is openly bankrolling the unrest in places like Ferguson. And nothing happens! The FBI is running around chasing people in FIFA for taking bribes, but NOTHING happens to someone who is openly subverting the US itself. Indeed, the White House backs many of the same causes.

Sad isn't it?

Very, Lily.

I note that America's answer to Boris, Donald Trump, is currently being hailed as a saviour. He seems to be impressing people by doing a lot of tough talking. However....


I suppose US voters are aware he couldn't even win an argument with Aberdeen Council over windfarms? I don't fancy his chances much on the world stage, somehow....

I am well aware that the Scots defeated him, Bonny, but he has certainly made this rather dull and boring race very interesting.

I think he really would create loads of jobs and he is so rich that he is not corruptible so that is in his favor.  He is also totally honest but I don't think he will win.  

True, he can't be bought, as he's so rich himself - and he does make it all a bit more interesting. I can't remember who any of the others are, just him, Rand Paul, and Hillary. Please, God, don't let Hillary win....

There are others, Bonny and it is all pretty much same old, same old.  With Hillary, it is a matter of lie du jour with her.  

Now there is enjoyment in listening to the Donald no matter whether you like him or not.

Well, his private jet did fly over my head once a while back, and I can't say that about any of the other candidates!

    

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-23/cnn-goes-there-asks-if-thomas-jefferson-memorials-should-be-removed-because-he-owned

CNN Goes There: Asks If Thomas Jefferson Memorials Should Be Removed Because He Owned Slaves?

Yes, why not? It isn't as if identity politics aren't tearing the US apart already.

I especially appreciated Obama using the n----- word - all of it - as his contribution to racial harmony.

My ancestors watched their family members taken to America in chains as slaves because they opposed the Crown - who do I apply to for compensation?

what is truly despicable in these situations is that Americans (with all do respect to them) while have created laws to prevent selling weapons, allows citizens with kids or even teenagers or irresponsible adults, to have these types of weapons in their homes, without knowing for certain that these type of people are suitable (which clearly they are not) to have these weapons with them, also to prevent violent games to be created or distributed in the market.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_controversial_video_games

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bully_(video_game)

banned or censored is not enough, these types of games who incites violent acts, should have never being created, so, the company who owns them or created them are also guilty of such violent acts to happen, whether in America or any other country.

Obama talks too much, but measures to prevent this of happening, none.

I am very much against violent role-playing games, Pedro, IMO, they desensitise those playing them, and blur the lines between reality and what they see on screen.

I am afraid Obama is part of the problem, not part of the solution. And I don't see much betterment ahead.