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Post  Max on Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:35 pm

https://www.publico.pt/2017/04/29/sociedade/noticia/caso-maddie-dez-anos-depois-pj-nega-pressoes-politicas-1770459




Maddie Case: Ten Years Later, PJ Denies Political Pressures

On the eve of the tenth anniversary of Madeleine McCann's disappearance, the Judiciary Police Directorate denies that there have been political pressures from London and Lisbon in the course of the investigation. The case remains unresolved.


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The deputy director of the Judiciary Police said that the PJ never suffered political pressure during the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in 2007 and that criticism of the police did not affect the work.

"The Judicial Police did not feel any political pressure from the British authorities and even less from the Portuguese authorities to act in this or that way. This pressure did not exist at all," Pedro do Carmo told the Lusa news agency. Disappearance of the English child Madeleine McCann in the Algarve.

During the process, the PJ followed several lines of investigation, and the parents of the child came to constitute defendants, which deserved criticism, especially of the English media, but Pedro do Carmo understands that they had "no consequence or impact on the investigation ".

"For the Judiciary Police, it is important, as long as it is possible to clarify the case, to continue their work," acknowledging that Maddie's disappearance was a case "unique in the history of the PJ and of the country," he said.

"Because it is a missing child and eventually we can face a crime that has not been clarified yet, we have every interest in knowing what happened, because that is how we can learn the lessons for future situations," he said.

In this case, he added, "we have not yet come to that point which makes it a unique case, and this justifies the commitment and persistence of the PJ. This is what mobilizes us and keeps us determined and immune to any pressure. Political or media. "

Although the police are aware that, as time goes by, it becomes more difficult to reach answers or results, it continues to investigate the case, through a team from the Porto directory, with Pedro do Carmo saying that "still There is reason to hope. "

The disappearance of Maddie continues to be investigated by the PJ and the Metropolitan Police, and in the words of the Deputy Director of Police, "a close relationship of cooperation, but with separation between the teams and degree of independence."

The fact that the mystery remained ten years ago leads Pedro do Carmo to admit that this case is "a stone in the shoe of the PJ" and that it is still premature to make an analysis of how the whole process of investigation has run.

On May 3, 2007, three-year-old Maddie disappeared from her bedroom with her two younger brothers and sisters in a holiday apartment in the Algarve.

At the outset of the investigation, the PJ came to constitute as defendant Robert Murat, a Briton who lived near the Ocean Club and who had participated in the searches and was an interpreter of GNR and PJ.

In September Maddie's parents, both doctors, are questioned in the PJ of Portimão and constituted defendants.

On 21 July 2008, the Public Prosecutor's Office decided to close the investigation and remove the accused from the McCanns and Robert Murat, stating that the case could be reopened if "new evidence" arose.

The investigation was reopened and the terms of the Portimão section of the Department of Criminal Investigation and Action (DIAP) of Faro, and, as the owner of the criminal action, the Public Prosecutor's Office directs and monitors all steps, Lusa told the Attorney General's Office. Republic.

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The deputy director of the Judiciary Police said that the PJ never suffered political pressure during the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in 2007 and that criticism of the police did not affect the work.

"The Judicial Police did not feel any political pressure from the British authorities and even less from the Portuguese authorities to act in this or that way. This pressure did not exist at all," Pedro do Carmo told the Lusa news agency. Disappearance of the English child Madeleine McCann in the Algarve.


So, yet more lies from the porcine-faced perjurer? I'll believe the deputy head of the PJ before I believe that waste of space.

It's all just been one big, never-ending LIE from Gonzo.

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MADDIE CASE - ATTORNEY GENERAL in 2008 DENIES POLITICAL PRESSURES

Post  Max on Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:08 pm



https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3443865/former-attorney-general-maddie-mccann-probe-very-rare-situation-if-mystery-solved/

Fernando Jose Pinto Monteiro, Portugal’s Attorney General in July 2008, announced the 14-month investigation had come to an end because of a lack of evidence.


Dismissing claims by the likes of disgraced former police chief Goncalo Amaral that British political interference hindered the case, he insisted: “No diplomatic pressure was brought to bear on the Attorney-General during the investigation.”




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Post  bb1 on Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:14 pm

It should never have come to this, Max. Amoral should never have been allowed to run around telling lie after lie for years, and claiming he and he alone was telling the truth.

The whole hate campaign against the McCann family is based on lies, and it ALL stems from Gonzo.

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Post  Max on Sat Apr 29, 2017 4:38 pm


It does and it started within a very short time of Madeleine's disappearance, not only with police leaks but also with ones appearing online from Portugal telling others to only believe what came out of Portugal, things which we now know were far from the truth but was the beginning of the lies and manipulation we now see so widely online, which many now believe to be facts.

I have always wondered what the aim of those posters was and where they appeared from so soon after the event, it was almost as though it was organised.



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Post  bb1 on Sat Apr 29, 2017 5:15 pm

Yes. And just WHY was it organised? What were all those Amaral groupies hiding, under the guise of being 'wonderful translators'?

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Post  Pedro Silva on Mon May 01, 2017 12:02 am

Ten Years Later, PJ Denies Political Pressures.

even the PJ disagrees with amaral´s insanity.
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Post  lily on Mon May 01, 2017 6:10 pm

Yes. And just WHY was it organised? What were all those Amaral groupies hiding, under the guise of being 'wonderful translators'?


Desperation.  They knew what had really happened but could not let that escape no matter what.  So they started their spin?
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Post  bb1 on Tue May 02, 2017 8:35 pm

http://expresso.sapo.pt/dossies/diario/2017-05-02-Pedro-do-Carmo-Os-pais-de-Maddie-nao-sao-suspeitos.-Ponto

Pedro do Carmo: "Maddie's parents are not suspects. Score"



In an interview with Expresso, the deputy director of the Judiciary Police, Pedro do Carmo, argues that no police in the world could guarantee results different from those obtained so far in Portugal in the case of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. "We had never had and never had a similar case.''

It is a mystery with ten years that still divides the public opinion and intrigues the Portuguese and English authorities that investigate the case. What happened to Madeleine Beth McCann, a 4-year-old English girl who disappeared from the Ocean Club apartment on Luz beach (Lagos) on the night of May 3, 2007 - does this Wednesday 10 years ago? The Judiciary Police (PJ) has some suspicions and a certainty: it was not the parents, Gerry and Kate McCann, who did harm to the child born in Leicester.

In September 2007, the McCanns were indicted by the Portuguese courts but the following year the suit was closed for lack of evidence. It was reopened by the PJ in 2013 and continues to be investigated simultaneously with Scotland Yard. To this day, however, despite hundreds of clues and sightings of Maddie, no one was charged or convicted and the girl, who would have been 14 years old, was never found.

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Post  lily on Tue May 02, 2017 8:41 pm

How very interesting.  Pcorneater
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Post  bb1 on Tue May 02, 2017 8:44 pm

Isn't it just? Looks like Gonzo is on his own, and slowly but surely being isolated.

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Post  lily on Tue May 02, 2017 8:47 pm

Oh dear.  What a shame.  biggrin
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Post  bb1 on Tue May 02, 2017 10:08 pm

Full article on Myths;

https://stopthemyths.info/viewtopic.php?f=115&p=329699#p329699

oana Morais 4 hrs ago




In an interview with Expresso newspaper, the deputy director of the Judiciary Police, Pedro do Carmo, argues that no police in the world could guarantee results different from those obtained so far in Portugal in the case of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

"We had never had and did not have a similar case again"

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I's a ten year old mystery that still divides the public opinion and intrigues the Portuguese and English authorities that investigate the case. What happened to Madeleine Beth McCann, the 4-year-old English girl who disappeared from the Ocean Club apartment in Praia da luz (Lagos) on the night of May 3, 2007 - 10 years ago the next Wednesday? The Judiciary Police (PJ) has some suspicions and a certainty: it was not the parents, Gerry and Kate McCann, who harmed to the child born in Leicester.

In September 2007, the McCanns were constituted as arguidos by the the Portuguese Justice but in the following year the case was closed for lack of evidence. It was reopened by the PJ in 2013 and continues to be investigated simultaneously with Scotland Yard. To this day, however, despite hundreds of leads and sightings of Maddie, no one was charged or convicted and the girl, who would have been 14 years old, has never been found.

Until the process was archived in 2008, there were three lines of investigation by the Judiciary Police on the case. Hypothesis 1: the parents accidentally killed their daughter and then concealed the body. Hypothesis 2: Maddie was abducted by a group linked to the trafficking of minors and sold for the purpose of sexual exploitation. Hypothesis 3: The child was killed following an abduction that went wrong.

Did the reopening of the case in 2013 open up more investigative lines than the three that were followed at that time?

I cannot speak about the investigation. What I can say is that the PJ remains convinced that there are elements that can still be worked and that can lead to some results. If it is not possible to achieve this result, at least we want to get some answers to the many questions that the case generates. Ultimately, to get to a point where the PJ concludes that there is nothing more that can be done to answer those questions.

Did Scotland Yard's entry into action in the case back in 2011 delivered results?

Since they've also decided to open an investigation, the contacts between the PJ and Metropolitan Police have been regular. There has been a constant exchange of information, which has been positive. This exchange of information remains. It can even be said that the relationship between the two police forces is of great proximity and great collaboration.

The reconstruction of the night of May 3, 2007, as the PJ investigators initially intended, with the presence of the McCanns and their English friends at the scene (that never happened due to the group's lack of willingness to return to Praia da Luz) would it have been essential to better understand what happened to the English girl?

I do not want to talk about what happened up to 2008. This has been sufficiently debated at its appropriate place.

Any idea how many people were heard in total in this case?

No. But certainly several hundred people.

Ten years on after the events at Praia da Luz, why do you think the case is still so much debated?

First because there was a deliberate and legitimate effort on the part of the child's parents in keeping the issue on the agenda of the media. But there are also other elements, such as the circumstances of the disappearance. Ten years later we still do not know what happened, which makes it possible to say, at least in relation to Portugal, that this is a unique case. We had never had one, and we did not have a similar case again. There were other cases of disappearances of children where it was not possible to bring the perpetrators to justice. But in those cases we either caught someone or it was possible for the police to understand what had happened. In this case we are not yet in a position to say what is behind the disappearance. This makes it a unique case. And maybe an extremely rare case worldwide.

Do you hope to know the truth about what happened on the night of May 3, 2007 in Praia da Luz?

Of course that's what motivates us. It is that hope that keeps us working on the investigation.

As you said in a recent interview, the Maddie case is a thorn on the side of the Judiciary Police?

Although I have used this expression into the conversation, it is not the term 'thorn on the side'. It is in the DNA of the Judiciary Police to solve all the crimes that as a duty to investigate. Whenever this does not happen it is something that will not leave us, and can not leave us, satisfied. We are very demanding with our work. In this case, we are not satisfied and remain committed to resolve the case.

Is the PJ still learning from this case ten years on?

We like to learn from every case and we also want to learn from this one. But only after we know what has happened will we be able to draw conclusions from it: understand what we have done well and less well. And we have not yet reached that point. We want to learn lessons from it in its due time.

The English media again insinuates that Portugal continues to be a country that cannot solve a case of this dimension. But the British police have not done better. Can the English public opinion change since Scotland Yard has not been successful, either?

We are not insensitive to others' opinions but our responsibility and commitment is with our fellow citizens. The Portuguese have every reason to be proud and trust their Judiciary Police, which proves on a daily basis its capacity, effectiveness and competence. Difficult cases exist in all countries. The results sometimes take time to arrive and this is also true for all countries. Our expectation is that there is a capacity for everyone to understand that this is so. No police anywhere in the world could guarantee different results.

So would a case like this one have the same results today anywhere else in the world?

would not say it would have the same results. I would say is that in a case like this one there would be no guarantee of having different results anywhere else in the world. No police in any part of the world could guarantee different results, up to this moment, from those the Judiciary has achieved.

Would the PJ have done something different today in this investigation?

That is a conclusion that we can only reach after the moment we know what has happened or have reached a point where it is not possible to do anything more to clarify the case. And we have not yet reached that point.

Do you think it was a mistake to have the McCann couple constituted as arguidos in September 2007?

Obviously, I will not answer that question. But what I can say, just as I did back in 2011 and 2013, is that Maddie's parents are not suspects. That statement remains: the parents are not suspects. Period.

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Post  bb1 on Tue May 02, 2017 10:10 pm

In Big Letters for the benefit of ignorant forkers:

But what I can say, just as I did back in 2011 and 2013, is that Maddie's parents are not suspects. That statement remains: the parents are not suspects. Period.

- the Deputy Head of the PJ.

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Post  bb1 on Tue May 02, 2017 10:17 pm

Full thing translated by Morais .

xxxxxhttps://joana-morais.blogspot.co.uk/2017/05/pedro-do-carmo-maddies-parents-are-not.html

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Post  lily on Tue May 02, 2017 10:55 pm

Good.  biggrin
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Post  bb1 on Wed May 03, 2017 10:10 am

PeterMac says we're to ignore this.

But I won't elaborate further.


Hounders and haters will fall for any old bollox as long as it gives them hope. rofl rofl rofl

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Post  bb1 on Wed May 03, 2017 5:33 pm

https://stopthemyths.info/viewtopic.php?f=115&p=329755#p329755

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Claws and Soares confirmed on Missingmadeleine that Pedro d Carmo said they were not suspects in 2013, but everyone put fingers in ears and carried on as usual.


Ah yes......



IMO, the hate squad simply cannot face reality and drop their abuse of the McCanns. Firstly, they have far too much emotional investment in their spite and bile.

And secondly, it would mean facing the truth about what they themselves are - nothing better than an ignorant, sick, internet lynch mob.

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Post  Sabot on Wed May 03, 2017 5:49 pm


For me it has always been quite simple. Goncalo Amaral was in serious trouble over The Cipriano Case, and desperately needed another Child Killing Mother to get him off the hook of what a moron he had been.
He just didn't allow for the fact that he wasn't dealing with ignorant peasants on this occasion.
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Post  bb1 on Thu May 04, 2017 3:49 pm

Joana Morais‏ @JoanaAMorais 7h7 hours ago
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Pedro do Carmo, has effectively killed any chances of investigating the Maddie case fully. It's over.


Oh good. Does that mean she's going to hang up her pitchfork, stop spreading vicious propaganda, and stop trying to silence people who don't agree with her? Pcorneater

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