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Language experts to help identify internet 'trolls'
University researchers are developing a system to help identify people who are behind offensive comments posted on the internet.
Linguistic experts at the University of Central Lancashire (UCLAN) are working with police and child protection agencies to develop an automated system to recognise language patterns.
The aim is to track people who post anonymous malicious messages.
The activity, known as "trolling", was recently raised with Facebook by Liverpool Walton MP Steve Rotherham following messages that were left on a tribute page to 16-year-old Georgia Varley, who died when she fell between a platform and a train.
Claire Hardaker, lecturer in linguistics and English language at UCLAN, said: "Everyone has a unique way of writing, of putting certain words together, which is subconscious.
"Many teenagers say they are able to identify who sent a text to them - just by the style of writing and word habits or the way the words are written.
"Someone might be pretending to be someone else, but by analysing the way they write online, we can determine a probable, age, gender - even a probable region from where they come from.
"In its simplest form, people use different words for things - for example a bread roll. Some people would say a tea cake, some people would say a barm - it is these sort of elements that help to narrow down a search."
It is proving hard for authorities to trace so-called trolls and there have only be two people in England successfully prosecuted.
Sean Duffy, from Reading, was jailed for 18 weeks after posting abusive remarks on pages set up in remembrance of girls who had died.
Meanwhile, Colm Coss, from Manchester, was jailed for 18 weeks for sending "malicious communications" after posting on a memorial page for Big Brother star Jade Goody and a tribute site to John Paul Massey - a Liverpool boy mauled to death by a dog.
Ms Hardaker added: "It is not just anonymous posts.
"Online there are all these extra problems of 'did this person genuinely author this?'
"Can you actually prove that the person sat at that computer at that moment and wrote that message?
"So, even though we know some of these things are patently wrong, just actually getting the person in question can be really difficult."
'Different posts'
Every computer connected to the internet can be traced through IP addresses, but trolls often use special software to disguise their location making it harder for authorities to find.
Ms Hardaker said she believed this was where linguistic profiling could help.
Researchers at the university in Preston will spend the next year working with Merseyside and Greater Manchester Police, as well as the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (CEOP), to develop a linguistic profiling system.
Ms Hardaker said: "The analysis process is currently done by hand by a linguistic specialist manually analysing online text.
"We are looking to develop an automated computer system to analyse the different components of written text.
"If the police have a suspect paedophile, for example, we can work with them to help to identify whether different posts across different sites were actually written by the same person."
Tuesday marks Safer Internet Day, an annual event designed to encourage people to use internet technology more responsibly.
This year it coincides with the week-long BBC Share Take Care campaign, in partnership with the UK Safer Internet Centre, to raise awareness of issues surrounding safeguarding reputation online.
Language experts to help identify internet 'trolls'
University researchers are developing a system to help identify people who are behind offensive comments posted on the internet.
Linguistic experts at the University of Central Lancashire (UCLAN) are working with police and child protection agencies to develop an automated system to recognise language patterns.
The aim is to track people who post anonymous malicious messages.
The activity, known as "trolling", was recently raised with Facebook by Liverpool Walton MP Steve Rotherham following messages that were left on a tribute page to 16-year-old Georgia Varley, who died when she fell between a platform and a train.
Claire Hardaker, lecturer in linguistics and English language at UCLAN, said: "Everyone has a unique way of writing, of putting certain words together, which is subconscious.
"Many teenagers say they are able to identify who sent a text to them - just by the style of writing and word habits or the way the words are written.
"Someone might be pretending to be someone else, but by analysing the way they write online, we can determine a probable, age, gender - even a probable region from where they come from.
"In its simplest form, people use different words for things - for example a bread roll. Some people would say a tea cake, some people would say a barm - it is these sort of elements that help to narrow down a search."
It is proving hard for authorities to trace so-called trolls and there have only be two people in England successfully prosecuted.
Sean Duffy, from Reading, was jailed for 18 weeks after posting abusive remarks on pages set up in remembrance of girls who had died.
Meanwhile, Colm Coss, from Manchester, was jailed for 18 weeks for sending "malicious communications" after posting on a memorial page for Big Brother star Jade Goody and a tribute site to John Paul Massey - a Liverpool boy mauled to death by a dog.
Ms Hardaker added: "It is not just anonymous posts.
"Online there are all these extra problems of 'did this person genuinely author this?'
"Can you actually prove that the person sat at that computer at that moment and wrote that message?
"So, even though we know some of these things are patently wrong, just actually getting the person in question can be really difficult."
'Different posts'
Every computer connected to the internet can be traced through IP addresses, but trolls often use special software to disguise their location making it harder for authorities to find.
Ms Hardaker said she believed this was where linguistic profiling could help.
Researchers at the university in Preston will spend the next year working with Merseyside and Greater Manchester Police, as well as the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (CEOP), to develop a linguistic profiling system.
Ms Hardaker said: "The analysis process is currently done by hand by a linguistic specialist manually analysing online text.
"We are looking to develop an automated computer system to analyse the different components of written text.
"If the police have a suspect paedophile, for example, we can work with them to help to identify whether different posts across different sites were actually written by the same person."
Tuesday marks Safer Internet Day, an annual event designed to encourage people to use internet technology more responsibly.
This year it coincides with the week-long BBC Share Take Care campaign, in partnership with the UK Safer Internet Centre, to raise awareness of issues surrounding safeguarding reputation online.
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Oh God. That old stuff. We've been doing it for ages.
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Ah, but we don't have Phd's in forkertrollspotting, Sabot, or in counting PhotonHydra's heads. We just do it for fun
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Didn't I read only the other day that Hardy (aka spudgun01) was ever so sure nobody was doing any research into abuse? Oh that was the Midlands though. LOL
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bb1 wrote:Ah, but we don't have Phd's in forkertrollspotting, Sabot, or in counting PhotonHydra's heads. We just do it for fun
Much the best reason, especially when some of The Trolls have got Phd's.
Oh, you mean the Troll Hunters don't know that?
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Yes, 'I'll snap your neck' Hardy was indeed insisting that nothing like this was being done. In the Midlands, anyway.
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The big fairy man is in for a shock then.bb1 wrote:Yes, 'I'll snap your neck' Hardy was indeed insisting that nothing like this was being done. In the Midlands, anyway.
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Quiet on twitter, isn't it, apart from Butler and her delusions, ramblings and ravings
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Posted by: emilyb3. on February 19, 2012 7:50 PMsammy i approve and encourage anyone wiping the floor with anyone who deserves it for x y z reasons, satisfies me you see as my sense of fairness balance is heightened, tuff if its a problem for you, the sweeper under the carpet to suit t wat
Lord, she is vile.
Lord, she is vile.
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Posted by: Riza on February 19, 2012 8:13 PMEmily is an alcoholic - nothing wrong with that - Churchill was one of those - and saved Blighty
Except, Emily does not have the genius of Churchill (the ex PM or the dog in the adverts) and when she is well-oiled - which is every night - comes out with abusive rubbish.
If Emily only posted when she doesn't have the shakes - she'd be a contributor - she doesn't - therefore ruining the blog for lots of peeps -
Emily does not care for Madeleine - she hates the establishment that brand her a p.sshead - rightly
And she gathers K&G are part of said establishment
I shan't charge for this profile - I'm not Pat Brown
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Bang on the money.
Except, Emily does not have the genius of Churchill (the ex PM or the dog in the adverts) and when she is well-oiled - which is every night - comes out with abusive rubbish.
If Emily only posted when she doesn't have the shakes - she'd be a contributor - she doesn't - therefore ruining the blog for lots of peeps -
Emily does not care for Madeleine - she hates the establishment that brand her a p.sshead - rightly
And she gathers K&G are part of said establishment
I shan't charge for this profile - I'm not Pat Brown
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Bang on the money.
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@DAFFODIL53 @DodgyDrPayne Hello Daffy-Dildo, nice of you to drop by., dripping your poison. #Toxic #McCann #HiredHelpless #BloodMoney
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She posts that - then wonders why she gets pornspam? It's entirely her own doing for making obscene posts.
@DAFFODIL53 @DodgyDrPayne Hello Daffy-Dildo, nice of you to drop by., dripping your poison. #Toxic #McCann #HiredHelpless #BloodMoney
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She posts that - then wonders why she gets pornspam? It's entirely her own doing for making obscene posts.
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That is by no means the worst obscene posting from her in the last twenty four hours. She is one very dirty-minded old lady. I bet her grandchildren would be ashamed of her.
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I don't know why she - or any of them - are surprised when the pornbots, or whatever they are called - start following them; it's their own disgusting posts that attract that kind of follower.
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@pamalam3 Don't you find it strange that not one of the Tapas 7 posts on the Official Find Madeleine F/B? #McCann #Fraud #FakedAbduction
No - why on earth would they want to provide fresh meat for ghouls like her to feast on?
@pamalam3 Don't you find it strange that not one of the Tapas 7 posts on the Official Find Madeleine F/B? #McCann #Fraud #FakedAbduction
No - why on earth would they want to provide fresh meat for ghouls like her to feast on?
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Here's a perfect example of why, from one of the Amazon forkers:
Unlucky for the McCanns, we have almost 5 years of video footage so we can study their 'emotions' over the years at our leisure.
Now, what kind of person would want to spend their leisure studying videos of total strangers, and making amateur pronouncements on them?
No-one normal, that's for sure.
Unlucky for the McCanns, we have almost 5 years of video footage so we can study their 'emotions' over the years at our leisure.
Now, what kind of person would want to spend their leisure studying videos of total strangers, and making amateur pronouncements on them?
No-one normal, that's for sure.
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bb1 wrote:Here's a perfect example of why, from one of the Amazon forkers:
Unlucky for the McCanns, we have almost 5 years of video footage so we can study their 'emotions' over the years at our leisure.
Now, what kind of person would want to spend their leisure studying videos of total strangers, and making amateur pronouncements on them?
No-one normal, that's for sure.
They need to be in a secure place with regular medication.
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A Chronological Record of Madeleine's Fund: Leaving No Stone Unturned Limited Company | goo.gl/I7cKS #mccann
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Madeleine's Fund - Review & Investigation of Accounts goo.gl/pwIm3 #mccann
Oddly enough, she seems to be forgetting that the supposed 'investigation' is nothing more than a notorious forker, one Enid o' Dowd, having a pop at the McCanns on the mccannfiles - not worth the effort of reading.
Here's 'o Dowd forking away last year -
http://littlemorsals.blogspot.com/2011/06/was-madeleine-abducted-by-enid-odowd.html
A Chronological Record of Madeleine's Fund: Leaving No Stone Unturned Limited Company | goo.gl/I7cKS #mccann
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Madeleine's Fund - Review & Investigation of Accounts goo.gl/pwIm3 #mccann
Oddly enough, she seems to be forgetting that the supposed 'investigation' is nothing more than a notorious forker, one Enid o' Dowd, having a pop at the McCanns on the mccannfiles - not worth the effort of reading.
Here's 'o Dowd forking away last year -
http://littlemorsals.blogspot.com/2011/06/was-madeleine-abducted-by-enid-odowd.html
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How's this for kidding yourself?
Well, I took the plunge and copied it and then printed it to read at my leisure......40 pages in all, excellent Report and wouldn't it be great if some brave
Newspaper printed it.!!!!!!
Caution girls, I wouldn't paste any more on here, it specifically states it is exclusive to mccannfiles and we don't want all and sundry copying and pasting
on their own Forums.
I just wonder why Ms O'Dowd, waited until now to write such a detailed Report, could be it has been submitted to someone .
What? Does she think only forkers are capable of C & P-ing from Dr Redsquare Roberts
And why would anyone want to, anyway? It's about as genuine as the crime gossip's 'profiling', and the handiwork of another well-known forker.
It's of no interest to anyone except forkers.
Well, I took the plunge and copied it and then printed it to read at my leisure......40 pages in all, excellent Report and wouldn't it be great if some brave
Newspaper printed it.!!!!!!
Caution girls, I wouldn't paste any more on here, it specifically states it is exclusive to mccannfiles and we don't want all and sundry copying and pasting
on their own Forums.
I just wonder why Ms O'Dowd, waited until now to write such a detailed Report, could be it has been submitted to someone .
What? Does she think only forkers are capable of C & P-ing from Dr Redsquare Roberts
And why would anyone want to, anyway? It's about as genuine as the crime gossip's 'profiling', and the handiwork of another well-known forker.
It's of no interest to anyone except forkers.
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Since when did real forensic accountants make remarks like:
Rather than going into detail about the busy day she must have had dealing with her lawyers, and why she made the decision to proceed with incorporation and abandon the negotiations for charity status, she talks of going for a run, her first since Madeleine went missing!
Rather than going into detail about the busy day she must have had dealing with her lawyers, and why she made the decision to proceed with incorporation and abandon the negotiations for charity status, she talks of going for a run, her first since Madeleine went missing!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forensic_accountant
Importantly, a good forensic accountant will be able to look at the evidence before him from different standpoints so as to recognise different possible interpretations of that evidence and the implications of those interpretations for the matter in hand. That involves not only objectivity but also skills derived from experience in the field.
Well, that's Enid's chances of getting a proper job as a forensic accountant out the window, then - the real ones don't make biased and bigoted remarks about jogging, do they?
Importantly, a good forensic accountant will be able to look at the evidence before him from different standpoints so as to recognise different possible interpretations of that evidence and the implications of those interpretations for the matter in hand. That involves not only objectivity but also skills derived from experience in the field.
Well, that's Enid's chances of getting a proper job as a forensic accountant out the window, then - the real ones don't make biased and bigoted remarks about jogging, do they?
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The case of missing Madeleine McCann is unlike any other missing person case. Her parents Kate and Gerry McCann set up a limited company (Madeleine's Fund) less than two weeks after she went missing, and engaged many, mainly legal, professionals, to further their search for her.
This article looks at the history of the Fund, what the audited accounts reveal and the professionals engaged, using material from the book Madeleine and from independent sources.
Madeleine was reported missing by her parents Kate and Gerry McCann on the evening of Thursday May 3, 2007. On 15 May, just 11 full days later, the limited company Madeleine's Fund: leaving No Stone Unturned was incorporated.
The sad truth is that such Funds, Foundations or whatever one chooses to call them are normally set up after a tragic event as a tribute to the person's memory.
She clearly has chosen to overlook the fact that sending money to a Fund for a missing child is a practical way to help find the child.
So, we have another attention seeker who has hitched a ride on the train.
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Well, that's Enid's chances of getting a proper job as a forensic accountant out the window, then - the real ones don't make biased and bigoted remarks about jogging, do they?
Not only pathetic but also embarrassing.
Not only pathetic but also embarrassing.
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There's a definite Bennetti-sh air to that 'report'.
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bb1 wrote:There's a definite Bennetti-sh air to that 'report'.
Absolutely correct, Bonny.
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Do they never, ever ask themselves why REAL experts want nothing to do with them? Why they are always told to go forth and multiply by the REAL police, the Home Office, MPs, everyone?
Why REAL journos loath the lot of them and want nothing to do with them?
Does this business of having to pretend to be 'forensic accountants' 'film makers' and 'profilers' because they are as popular as leprosy in the real world not tell them anything?
No, it isn't because everyone else is IN IT - it is because they are well, not very nice people, and their cause is rotten to the core.
Why REAL journos loath the lot of them and want nothing to do with them?
Does this business of having to pretend to be 'forensic accountants' 'film makers' and 'profilers' because they are as popular as leprosy in the real world not tell them anything?
No, it isn't because everyone else is IN IT - it is because they are well, not very nice people, and their cause is rotten to the core.
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