Re: Sun: Maddie cop ‘sent sex pics’ to Brit woman

**bb1** Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:39 pm

It was in 2008, before I came to my senses, Tony.

It went:

WHO IS GREENFLAG AND WHY IS HE POSTING ABOUT WULFIE'S LOVE LIFE FROM WULFIE'S PORTUGUESE IP WHEN WULFIE IS IN CANADA?

It was a peculiar business, and there never was anything resembling an explanation for it.

**Sabot** Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:48 pm

bb1 wrote:Ah well, that's the wierd thing, Tony.

Wulfie was in Canada at this time, but Greenflag was posting stuff about Wulfie and women from Wulfie's Portuguese ip.

And no, there never was a coherent explanation from Wulfie or his chum for it.

And yes, he would have been stupid enough to use a police computer.

I doubt if that wierdness has any relevance to this matter, it's just an odd echo from long ago.

I thought it was a given that Beowolf used The PJ computer. That Skype Conversation which appeared on The Net showed that Beo was terrified that The PJ would find out. He thought he might lose his job, didn't he? And he was dead worried about Greenflag.

**bb1** Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:54 pm

It wasn't Skype, it was MSN, I know this cos I was there smile

Someone else in the convo had the less than brilliant idea of copying it into a pm - and we know what happened to the 3A pms, don't we?

I am glad you've jogged my memory, Sabot, yes, that's right, he was terrified of - whatever it was - getting out and reaching the ears of the PJ.

To this day, I have no idea what was going on, it was only the uproar over Paiva that reminded me.

**Sabot** Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:09 pm

bb1 wrote:It wasn't Skype, it was MSN, I know this cos I was there

Someone else in the convo had the less than brilliant idea of copying it into a pm - and we know what happened to the 3A pms, don't we?

I am glad you've jogged my memory, Sabot, yes, that's right, he was terrified of - whatever it was - getting out and reaching the ears of the PJ.

To this day, I have no idea what was going on, it was only the uproar over Paiva that reminded me.

Yes, MSN, Bonny, and he was scared witless. I was riveted by the fact that most people involved in the conversation didn't give a shit about what happened to his job, they were mostly ignoring him. I began to feel sorry for him about then. So I think we can take it as given that he was using The PJ Computer Service.
But not sure what this has got to do with what is going on now.

**Sabot** Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:11 pm

PS. Didn't Greenflag threaten to dob him in it to The PJ, and wasn't that what the conversation was about?

**crazytony** Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:12 pm

There is a way to do it but you leave a trail.

**bb1** Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:14 pm

I don't think it's got anything to do with current events, Sabot - I was just reminded of past wierdnesses involving hormonal Portuguese blokes, computers, the PJ and the internet......

Yes, I think it was over him womanising in Portugal, or something, and Wulfie was in a state of terror in case the PJ got wind of.....something.

Thinking back, the obvious explanation is that Wulfie had used the PJ computer in Portugal, and whoever Greenflag was, had caught him at it. And was also annoyed about something to do with girlfriends?

**bb1** Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:06 am

Claudia has shoved her oar in:

Re: PJ Inspector Caught In Honeytrap?
Claudia79 Today at 1:19

I don't know Ricardo Paiv but I spoke to someone who does. I have no idea if he did this or not. But someone I know is convinced he didn't and that he has been, in fact, been hacked. If he was indeed hacked, the hacker will be found out. The PJ has a great department which deals with this type of crime and which will investigate this fully. If someone did this, that person has all the reasons to be scared.

I am sure I speak for everyone here when I say that I hope the culprit is indeed named and shamed - and hopefully taken to Portugal on one of those EAW they are forever issuing.

Because Sources say it is going to be very embarrassing indeed for the forkers.

Especially as right now, it looks as if there was no 'hacking'.

PS - tell me Wulfie isn't the PJ puter expert now?

**Sabot** Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:15 am

Which ever way you look at it, someone is going to be caught for doing something illegal, be it Hacking or Blackmail.

**bb1** Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:18 am

Oh, looks like it's all true, Morais is issuing shrieks of denial and, as usual, making matters worse:

Joana Morais ‏ @xklamation Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
@Tezza71 Steve Farthing, he was not on duty; the lewd pictures are a Sun's lie, he was entrapped & blackmailed by #mccann supporter & you...

She is heading the right way for a writ if she doesn't stop making false and malicious statements.

So, he did do all this, but she is claiming now he wasn't on duty when he did it...that should go down well with Mrs Paiva.

And she seems to have forgotten - it was her beloved CdM which first mentioned photos, so where did that come from, if not one of her lot?

**Sabot** Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:33 am

bb1 wrote:Oh, looks like it's all true, Morais is issuing shrieks of denial and, as usual, making matters worse:

Joana Morais ‏ @xklamation Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
@Tezza71 Steve Farthing, he was not on duty; the lewd pictures are a Sun's lie, he was entrapped & blackmailed by #mccann supporter & you...

She is heading the right way for a writ if she doesn't stop making false and malicious statements.

So, he did do all this, but she is claiming now he wasn't on duty when he did it...that should go down well with Mrs Paiva.

And she seems to have forgotten - it was her beloved CdM which first mentioned photos, so where did that come from, if not one of her lot?

"Not on Duty", and he was "Entrapped and Blackmailed", So all we need now is to find out who informed CdM of what Ricardo Paiva had obviously been up to.
Can anyone think of anyone with contacts to CdM who speaks Portuguese, or who has "Contacts".

**bb1** Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:35 am

I would not be at all surprised if it turned out to be Morais herself, Sabot, she is posting the very same falsehood as CdM printed:

https://jatyk2.forumotion.co.uk/t1307-apology-required-from-morais

**bb1** Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:01 am

Post of the day:

Re: Maddie, again!/Astro
Sara_Rose_ Today

Not Born Yesterday wrote:
I've heard that Jay Elles has been given the order of the boot from JATYK and would love to know what that's about. I'm not brave enough to venture there myself so does anyone know what caused such a catastrophe over the cauldron?

Hmm.. not sure about that NBY but I do know Tony Bennett has it wrong in believing Jayelles is Justine Spencer. It was Muratfan that attended his court hearing not Jayelles, and it's Muratfan that the majority of the pro's now seem to be mighty pi**ed of with. Reading between the lines Muratfan is involved in the ''PJ Inspecter honeytap' incident.

rofl

How wrong is it possible to get ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING?

No-one here is 'p*ssed off' with muratfan, and muratfan had absolutely NOTHING to do with Paivagate.

Hilarious that they can concoct notions like that, though rofl

**Sabot** Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:01 am

Oooer, So CdM AND Morais are using the same Lie. CdM could be forgiven, but Morais knows it's not true. So is she getting payback on Paiva for going off message, and trying to discredit Pros at the same time?

Actually, it doesn't matter who Entrapped and Blackmailed Paiva. They will be caught, and rightly so. But it doesn't alter what Paiva got himself into.

And I can't see any of us being frightfully impressed in the very unlikely even that it was a Pro.

**bb1** Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:07 pm

I haven't come across a single scrap of information to even suggest it came from anywhere besides Forker Central, Sabot.

That load of loonies were annoyed with Paiva for defending the Spencer woman, and went looking for payback, as far as I can make out.

That it has turned into a mega-disaster for them, is no-one's fault but their own.

Anyway, the PJ have, we keep hearing, excellent IT people; they will have no trouble at all tracing the trail of breadcrumbs back.

Everyone here WANTS it properly investigated and the culprit named and shamed, possibly even charged; there's no-one here shaking in their boots.

Maybe then Morais will issue a full apology for her malicious and false allegations.

**Sabot** Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:20 pm

Na, she wont. She's in full Cover Up Mode at the moment. Even The PJ. It's looking like only her and Gonc aren't IN IT.

**bb1** Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:24 pm

She's certainly in a panic today - looks like she did all that frantic smearing, spinning, and inventing Sauces for nothing.

Mainly due to the fact that she has no influence whatsoever on anything happening in the real world.

She can spin, smear and censor till the cows come home, it changes nothing.

**bb1** Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:41 pm

Oh my very dear!

http://justice4mccannfam.5forum.biz/t3901-paiva-and-gonc-s-affair

How sordid - do you suppose they have a Pact of Silence? Pcorneater

**Lamplighter** Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:02 pm

From dbiag:

OH DEAR, THE MERDE IS POSITIVELY FLYING THROUGH THE FAN!!

It would appear that bret has been involved in a 'sexual sting' involving one Paiva, a Portuguese policeman, and a US model, some obscene pictures and a lot of smut. It is now being claimed that bret was in fact this 'model', and now Paiva is under official investigation as some of the lewd pics were taken in his local police station and then posted via facebook (or email) to this 'woman'. This was done as payback for Paiva berating bret and co regarding their hounding of one Justine Spencer, who bret insists is a poster called J******* -, yes as usual he is completely wrong. However while all this was going on it would appear that bret was also the target of a 'sting', being fed false information regarding the online IDs of various posters. Bosie

**lily** Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:11 pm

Lamplighter wrote:From dbiag:

OH DEAR, THE MERDE IS POSITIVELY FLYING THROUGH THE FAN!!

It would appear that bret has been involved in a 'sexual sting' involving one Paiva, a Portuguese policeman, and a US model, some obscene pictures and a lot of smut. It is now being claimed that bret was in fact this 'model', and now Paiva is under official investigation as some of the lewd pics were taken in his local police station and then posted via facebook (or email) to this 'woman'. This was done as payback for Paiva berating bret and co regarding their hounding of one Justine Spencer, who bret insists is a poster called J******* -, yes as usual he is completely wrong. However while all this was going on it would appear that bret was also the target of a 'sting', being fed false information regarding the online IDs of various posters. Bosie

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Poor Bret. Fancy being taken in like that....... Hahau

**Sabot** Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:21 pm

So Mrs.Paiva knew about Gonc's affair and encouraged it.
How dare these people pose as good Catholics while berating The McCanns. The McCanns have never been involved in anything as sleazy as this.

**bb1** Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:26 pm

Lamplighter wrote:From dbiag:

OH DEAR, THE MERDE IS POSITIVELY FLYING THROUGH THE FAN!!

It would appear that bret has been involved in a 'sexual sting' involving one Paiva, a Portuguese policeman, and a US model, some obscene pictures and a lot of smut. It is now being claimed that bret was in fact this 'model', and now Paiva is under official investigation as some of the lewd pics were taken in his local police station and then posted via facebook (or email) to this 'woman'. This was done as payback for Paiva berating bret and co regarding their hounding of one Justine Spencer, who bret insists is a poster called J******* -, yes as usual he is completely wrong. However while all this was going on it would appear that bret was also the target of a 'sting', being fed false information regarding the online IDs of various posters. Bosie

One of the many things in this wicked world that I am delighted to say is nothing to do with us, LL Pcorneater

I reckon there is a lot more dirt to come out about Paiva and co, Sabot - I suspect the UK press may have been sitting on info for a long time.

Sauces say they have known all about the 'Golden Bullets' business for a long time; maybe this will give them an excuse to use the material?

Tick tock!

**lily** Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:29 pm

Well, they should not complain. You know what they say, 'people in glass houses should not throw stones'?

**crazytony** Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:35 pm

Has it been established yet which of Paiva's units was hacked; Computer, mobile or none of the two?

**lily** Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:41 pm

I don't know, Tony. I wonder if anyone else does? Pcorneater