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Post  greenink211 Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:07 pm

Not sure if there is a thread about this.

I wonder if the PT press will be covering the Court Case in Faro tomorrow of Goncalo Amaral against Marcos Teixeira da Fonte Aragão Correia and António Pedro de Andrade Dores.

Is this the case where he is claiming that they have defamed him by calling him a perjurer or something even though he actually is a convicted perjurer?



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Post  bb1 Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:16 pm

Ah, many thanks, Greenink, I've been waiting for news about this; it hasn't been clear it was going ahead.

Yes, it's that one; it's the one where the ex-Mrs Amaral will be giving evidence against him, as will his brother, after the business with the house.

I think it's a given that the Portuguese media will be covering a court case with such a high likelihood of sleaze coming out.
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Post  greenink211 Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:35 pm

I will look up the court diary as soon as I find the link. I know I have had the link before but can't find it at the moment.

Found it.


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Post  bb1 Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:27 pm

Is this what you are looking for?

http://www.citius.mj.pt/Portal/consultas/ConsultasAgenda.aspx

ETA, that is the only one I have, but I must do something wrong, I can never get it to work.....
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Post  Maggs Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:45 pm

bb1 wrote:Is this what you are looking for?

http://www.citius.mj.pt/Portal/consultas/ConsultasAgenda.aspx

ETA, that is the only one I have, but I must do something wrong, I can never get it to work.....

Thanks Bonny,

They still have April listed

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Post  bb1 Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:51 pm

There is an entry for today that says, Accomplished?

Does that mean we can look forward to juicy headlines in CdM tomorrow?
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Post  bb1 Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:54 pm

Am I right in thinking Ms Duarte is representing Marcos Correia? Because if she is down in Faro for this, then she isn't going to have time to do anything about the Precious Bookie Wookie....

The forkers will be soooo disappointed, they are convinced she is hand-wrapping every single copy of the most important book since the Bible.
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Post  Maggs Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:57 pm

bb1 wrote:There is an entry for today that says, Accomplished?

Does that mean we can look forward to juicy headlines in CdM tomorrow?

No Bonny, sorry,

Thats the 28th of last month rofl
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Post  bb1 Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:03 pm

Oh, so it does whistle
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Post  greenink211 Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:32 pm

Maggs wrote:
bb1 wrote:Is this what you are looking for?

http://www.citius.mj.pt/Portal/consultas/ConsultasAgenda.aspx

ETA, that is the only one I have, but I must do something wrong, I can never get it to work.....

Thanks Bonny,

They still have April listed

87/08.8JAFAR Amaral court case from 2008 now coming to a head. Marcos10

Looks like they probably knew that the trial would be postponed today.

It has been postponed to that April date now.

http://www.dn.pt/inicio/portugal/interior.aspx?content_id=2391220

with exactly the same words used to make up the CDM article

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/adiado-o-julgamento-por-alegada-difamacao-de-goncalo-amaral


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Post  bb1 Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:41 pm

Good find, Greenink.

http://www.dn.pt/inicio/portugal/interior.aspx?content_id=2391220

The trial of lawyer Marcos Aragão Correia and university professor António Pedro Dores, for defamation of former PJ inspector Gonçalo Amaral, was postponed again today to April 18, said a source close to the process.

According to the lawyer told reporters Antonio Pedro Dores, the only one involved in the process appear in court, Gonçalo Amaral, asked to be heard through videoconferencing.
Absent was also the lawyer Marcos Aragão Correia, who lived in Funchal, which have made the same application to the Court of Faro, requiring that the trial has been postponed for the second time.
The former inspector, who investigated the disappearance of Jane, daughter of Leonor Cipriano sued both by aludirem publicly that the alleged torture that was targeted during the interrogation of the Joana case.
Aragão Correia, Leonor Cipriano's lawyer, argues that courts have already found as a fact that his client was tortured, although the Public Ministry (MP) to maintain the charge in the libel suit that has Gonçalo Amaral as the complainant.
The trial should have begun in February, but pending an appeal brought by Mr Peter Pain, postponed it to today.


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Peter Pain? I do wish google wouldn't translate names.....but look at this:

, Gonçalo Amaral, asked to be heard through videoconferencing.

I would have thought that that was one case Amaral would want to appear at in person. He can't be doing anything so important it keeps him from Faro, so what's the problem?

Can't he face Marinho Pinto and co?
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Post  bb1 Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:53 pm

For the benefit of forkers, hounders, and the rest of the Gonc fan club:


IT WAS GONC WHO DIDN'T WANT TO APPEAR IN PERSON, GONC WHO WANTED TO APPEAR VIA VIDEO.
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Post  bb1 Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:09 pm

From the Morais blog:

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The defamation trial of Marcos Aragão Correia and António Pedro de Andrade Dores was postponed to 18th April

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/noticia.aspx?contentID=56438E9A-F2D6-42B5-827B-B5CFE50FD967&channelID=00000021-0000-0000-0000-000000000021

Amaral is live on tv SIC now commenting some criminal cases

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Oh, so he can turn up for daytime TV shows, but can't show his face in court for the action he himself brought?
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Post  bb1 Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:45 pm

From CdM:

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/ultima-hora/adiado-o-julgamento-por-alegada-difamacao-de-goncalo-amaral

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Gonçalo Amaral asked to be heard through videoconferencing

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I am sure it won't have passed un-noticed that he didn't want to turn up in court, but was able to turn up on daytime telly yet again.
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Post  bb1 Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:35 pm

Thank you, Tony thumbsup

I would love to know why Gonc couldn't face Ms Duarte. Or Marcos Correia. Or his ex-wife. Or his brother. Or Marinho Pinto.

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Gonçalo Amaral asked to be heard through videoconferencing

I wonder why CdM used a pic that makes him look like a rabbit caught in headlights?
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Post  bb1 Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:53 pm

http://thehoundingofthemccans.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/run-rabbit-run-rabbit-run-run-run.html

I reckon he's scared, Tony, he thought he could still get away with chucking his weight around, with his Stooges and cronies for back-up.

He brought this case; what kind of man then can't get on a bus to attend court and face the people he is accusing?

And he can't plead illness; if he can appear on daytime telly, he can appear in court.

That only leaves cowardice, IMO.
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Post  crazytony Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:04 pm

bb1 wrote:http://thehoundingofthemccans.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/run-rabbit-run-rabbit-run-run-run.html

I reckon he's scared, Tony, he thought he could still get away with chucking his weight around, with his Stooges and cronies for back-up.

He brought this case; what kind of man then can't get on a bus to attend court and face the people he is accusing?

And he can't plead illness; if he can appear on daytime telly, he can appear in court.

That only leaves cowardice, IMO.
He should be scared Bonny.

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Post  bb1 Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:09 pm

Too funny - Team Gonc stalwart Monclair/Carolina has turned up on MM with this gem:


Re: Court Case in Faro re Correia/Amaral
Carolina Today

As someone who has more knowledge of the justice system said on another site, it is higly unlikely that the judge will accept MAC trying to smear GA's character by using his ex-wife and brother since the case is not about his family relationships. Gonçalo Amaral could be the worst person on the face of the earth but his character is not what is on trial in this defamation case. You can't defend yourself in court by smearing your opponent, especially with things that are totally unrelated to the case.



In her dreams rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

Gonc started this action by claiming that his honour, dignity, etc had been insulted by a report stating that he was involved in covering up the torture of Leanor Cipriano.

TWO Portuguese courts found him guilty of doing exactly that.

It is therefore totally relevant to demonstrate that he HAS no honour, dignity or decency.

I thought that lot liked to call themselves Truthseekers - why don't they like hearing the truth about their beloved Gonc?

And they might like to read the court documents here:

http://justice4mccannfam.5forum.biz/t3832-gonc-s-debts-and-brothers-court-case

Gonc was found guilty, in a Portuguese court, of defrauding his own brother, and his brother was awarded damages.

How on earth can someone like Gonc claim to have the slightest shred of 'honour'?

As for:

his character is not what is on trial in this defamation case

Yes, it is - that is EXACTLY what this trial is about.

And as Tony says, Gonc does indeed have good reason to be scared - a lot of chickens are coming home to roost now.

Gonc can't complain - he's the one who started this legal action, so he must take the consequences.
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Post  crazytony Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:18 pm

How the hell Amaral can bring a case of defamation is beyond me.
He was found guilty of the very crime ACED reported on!

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Post  Sabot Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:27 pm


Isn't this all taking off at a gallop. Karma riding a White Charger.

However, we don't know what Gong's Brother or his Ex Second Wife are going to testify to. It could well be to do with threats and beatings. We know he threatened his Ex Second Wife on more than one occasion, so perhaps he did the same thing to his Brother. It is the code by which he lives.

I can hardly believe all of this. And I can't say that I find it particularly edifying, but who knows how good Catholics behave in Goncalo Amaral's world where intimidation rules.

And No, I don't feel sorry for The Lovely Sofia. She is as bad as he is. She took the money from the defrauding of Gonc's Brother. And neither of them paid their collective debts.
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Post  bb1 Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:35 pm

I feel sorry for his brother, it can't have been easy to watch that oaf strutting around, throwing money around on makeovers, fireworks and earrings, all the time knowing what he was really like.

As for Sofia, well, it will all come out in the wash.
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Post  Sabot Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:43 pm

crazytony wrote:How the hell Amaral can bring a case of defamation is beyond me.
He was found guilty of the very crime ACED reported on!

Amaral might have brought The Case before he was convicted, Tony. I don't actually know. But it would have to be pursued, unless Amaral withdrew the complaint. And who knows exactly how insane he is, or how convoluted Portuguese Law is. He just might have seemed to have been defamed at the time. This is always possible in a Legal System that takes twelve years to bring a Case of Torture against another PJ Officer.
Sorry, they haven't actually brought this Torture Case to Trial yet. We could all be dead before they do.
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Post  Sabot Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:47 pm

bb1 wrote:I feel sorry for his brother, it can't have been easy to watch that oaf strutting around, throwing money around on makeovers, fireworks and earrings, all the time knowing what he was really like.

As for Sofia, well, it will all come out in the wash.

The Nasties will whitewash Sofia Leal, Bonny. But funnily enough they can only do that by agreeing that she she was threatened and intimidated by her thug of a husband.
That will be an interesting one to watch.
Personally, I believe that she gives as good as she gets.
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