PORTUGUESE POLICE REFUSE TO RE-OPEN MADELEINE CASE

I would like to know why Brunt is trying to single-handedly trying to start a war of words between the UK and Portugal.

Zenny wrote:

Sabot wrote:

Who gives a shit about what Portugal thinks.

Exactly! They already wrote her off.

Let a competent police force that actually cares find her.

They will, Love, they will, if it is at all possible. I am just so pissed off by the fact that it took so long.
195 possible leads while The PJ were sitting on their backsides and trying to stitch up The McCanns and Robert Murat. I am never going to get my head around that balls up.
And I don't suppose The McCanns will either.

I cannot find ANYTHING about what the Portuguese AG has supposedly said - using the exact same words as he did in 2010.

Brunt is trying to cause some kind of trouble here - as if he hasn't done enough damage already.

Dr David Payne ‏ @DodgyDrPayne Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Gonçalo Amaral will be on TVI news tonight with Judite de Sousa at 20h00 and he promises to be rough! Should be interesting viewing.#mccann

Sounds like someone gets turned on by thugs in police uniforms.

Sabot wrote:

Zenny wrote:

Sabot wrote:

Who gives a shit about what Portugal thinks.

Exactly! They already wrote her off.

Let a competent police force that actually cares find her.

They will, Love, they will, if it is at all possible. I am just so pissed off by the fact that it took so long.
195 possible leads while The PJ were sitting on their backsides and trying to stitch up The McCanns and Robert Murat. I am never going to get my head around that balls up.
And I don't suppose The McCanns will either.

My dear Sabot. Be fair. Its what certain elements in the PJ call "police work and solving crimes".

bb1 wrote:I cannot find ANYTHING about what the Portuguese AG has supposedly said - using the exact same words as he did in 2010.

Brunt is trying to cause some kind of trouble here - as if he hasn't done enough damage already.

Madeleine isn't a person to him; she's just a story.

Oh, it's the vile Carolina harpy getting turned on at the thought of Amoral being 'rough':

Carolina Viola
Just found out that Gonçalo Amaral will be on TVI news tonight with Judite de Sousa at 20h00 and he promises to be rough! Should make for very interesting viewing.

Does that mean he is going to be giving a demonstration of what was done to the three Ciprianos? What he was clearly planning for Robert Murat?

I really, really loathe these fans of police brutality - in any country. Why don't they all go and live in Syria if they are so fond of thugs in uniforms?

Just a reminder of Carolina's opinion of Madeleine McCann:

Carolina Viola I'm sorry to say this but I never found Madeleine to be a pretty child and I think that she was destined to look like her aunt Phil.

And look what's surfaced - Levy the Liar:

Duarte Levy ‏ @DuarteLevy Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
LOL RT @skymartinbrunt: #McCann Scot Yard says its "seeking a more formal way" of asking the Portuguese authorities (...)

e: omg Breaking news: Gonçalo Amaral's book copies to be returned today by the McCann couple lawyer
Claudia79 Today at 5:24 pm

Just spoke to GA. He will be on Jornal da Noite, on TVI, at 8 o'clock. It is the 8 o'clock news so I don't know for sure the exact time when he will speak. And it is true (not that I doubted Joana, of course) about the books being returned.

Another one who should go and live in Syria, and cheer on police sadism.

Jean-Pierre.t50 wrote:

Sabot wrote:

Zenny wrote:

Sabot wrote:

Who gives a shit about what Portugal thinks.

Exactly! They already wrote her off.

Let a competent police force that actually cares find her.

They will, Love, they will, if it is at all possible. I am just so pissed off by the fact that it took so long.
195 possible leads while The PJ were sitting on their backsides and trying to stitch up The McCanns and Robert Murat. I am never going to get my head around that balls up.
And I don't suppose The McCanns will either.

My dear Sabot. Be fair. Its what certain elements in the PJ call "police work and solving crimes".

And some all over The World. I do watch a bit of American TV, you know. I know what goes on.
And Ashes to Ashes is my all time favourite TV Show. Apart from Life on Mars, that is. And what I couldn't do for Gene Hunt is nobodies business.

Got to go. Season 1 Episode 1 calls again. Such an exciting life I lead. See you all later in The Railway Arms.

Paul Robinson ‏ @delvestaxis Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
If Portuguese police will not re open Maddy case , people can always boycott holiday destination #mccann


It's a shame, but people are going to start thinking that way. The Algarve has already got a bad name thanks to the number of holiday makers who have been crime victims.

Joana Morais ‏ @xklamation Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Gonçalo Amaral entrevistado por Judite de Sousa, hoje, 20:00 na TVI. Viva à Liberdade de Expressão! Abaixo a Censura do casal

Oh, the irony of her claiming to be against censorship, when she censors all Portuguese news she doesn't approve of, alters other stories, and generally spins news out of all recognition

about "Gonçalo Amaral's book copies to be returned today by the McCann couple lawyer",

I doubt about it.

I agree: "It's a shame, but people are going to start thinking that way. The Algarve has already got a bad name thanks to the number of holiday makers who have been crime victims.."

The news from Algarve Resident newspaper about "the number of holiday makers who have been crime victims" proves it.

I have a question.

WHY, IF THE FORKERS, GHOULS AND GONC FANS ARE SO CONVINCED THE MCCANNS DONE IT, DON'T THEY WANT A FULL RE-INVESTIGATION OF THE CASE?

SURELY SCOTLAND YARD AND PORTO PJ WOULD SOON SEE THINGS THE SAME WAY AS ARMCHAIR DETECTIVES LIKE THEM?

WHAT'S MORAIS' PROBLEM? DOESN'T SHE WANT GONC TO BE CONGRATULATED BY THE YARD ON BEING SUCH A TOP 'TEC?

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/26/world/europe/uk-madeleine-mccann/index.html

No new leads in Madeleine McCann case, Portugal police say

CNN) -- Portuguese police have found no reason to reopen an inquiry into the disappearance of British girl Madeleine McCann during a 2007 family vacation in Portugal, a senior police official said Thursday.

Pedro do Carmo, deputy head of the Portuguese police, told CNN an independent team of detectives had been sifting through the evidence from the initial investigation for the past two months.

They "have found no new evidence that might provide the basis for a reopening of the investigation," he said.

It comes a day after London's Metropolitan Police suggested Madeleine could still be alive and that its officers are developing "genuinely new material."

The London force released a new image Wednesday created in collaboration with the family that shows how Madeleine might look at age 9. Her ninth birthday is May 12.

Madeleine was a few days shy of her fourth birthday when she disappeared from her family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz as her parents dined in a nearby tapas restaurant with friends.

Despite a huge police investigation, massive coverage in the Portuguese and British media, and a public riveted on social media, she remains missing.

Portuguese investigators closed the case in July 2008.

Do Carmo said any decision to reopen the case in Portugal would be made by the country's Public Ministry.

The police have informed the ministry that there is no evidence that is new, consistent and credible to warrant such a move, he said.

The independent team of Portuguese detectives has no deadline to wrap up its investigation, he added.

In Britain, officers have been working on an investigative review set up by the Met Police in May last year.

The Met did not disclose any details on potential new leads found by its detectives in its statement Wednesday.

"As a result of evidence uncovered during the review, they now believe there is a possibility Madeleine is still alive and are appealing for anyone who is able to provide direct information as to her whereabouts to contact the team," the force said.

Investigators are combing through about 100,000 pages of information for more details, authorities said.

"The intention is to identify from that material, investigative opportunities which we will then present to the Portuguese authorities who retain primacy for the investigation," police said. "Officers have so far identified around 195 such opportunities within the historic material, and are also developing what they believe to be genuinely new material."

Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood, who is leading a team of more than 35 officers focused on the McCann case, said they "will continue to put Madeleine McCann at the heart of everything we do." Redwood has visited Portugal seven times since the disappearance and has regular contact with the girl's parents.

The investigation is split equally down two lines -- one assuming that Madeleine is dead, the other that she is alive, police said.

Since her disappearance, her parents have appealed for help and said there's a chance she may still be alive. Frequent reports of sightings of her in various parts of the world have sparked wide interest. Last year, a report of a girl bearing a resemblance to the child created a spike on social media.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/316725/Madeleine-McCann-parents-pleased-as-hunt-gives-new-hope

MADELEINE MCCANN PARENTS PLEASED AS HUNT GIVES NEW HOPE

MADELEINE McCann’s parents are “hugely encouraged” by the progress of a Scotland Yard probe into the disappearance of their daughter.

As the five-year anniversary of Madeleine going missing draws near, Kate and Gerry McCann revealed they are “particularly pleased” with a new image of the little girl.

The picture – showing how she might look on her ninth birthday – was released by the Yard as detectives revealed there is still a possibility Madeleine is alive.

The fresh sense of hope comes despite news that the Portuguese authorities are refusing to reopen the case unless “credible and relevant new facts” emerge.

The McCanns have joined Scotland Yard in urging the Portuguese authorities to formally reopen the case and take advantage of 195 potential new leads identified by the Yard team.

A Metropolitan Police review was launched in May last year after Madeleine’s parents appealed directly to David Cameron.

She was days away from her fourth birthday when she vanished from a flat in Praia da Luz on the Algarve on May 3, 2007.

The McCanns’ spokesman Clarence Mitchell told BBC Breakfast yesterday: “Kate and Gerry welcome this and they are hugely encouraged by what the police have been doing all of this last year since the launch of the investigative review.

“Scotland Yard believes it is quite possible that Madeleine could still be alive and that is what Kate and Gerry have said throughout the five years.

“They are hugely encouraged by all of this momentum in the case.”

He added that the McCanns want the case to be reopened but it is “up to the Portuguese authorities”.

Mr Mitchell said yesterday: “They are very pleased that the new age-progressed image of Madeleine at nine was put out yesterday, which is getting wide publicity today. Of course, that is the girl that people should still be looking for.

“We need to remind people around the world that this is probably what Madeleine looks like today, not the very famous picture of her when she went missing. This is Madeleine as a young girl now. Kate particularly feels there is a very strong family resemblance. She sees Madeleine, Sean and Amelie, her brother and sister, and herself in the image.”

The picture was generated by Teri Blythe, a human identification and forensic art specialist, in close collaboration with the McCann family.

The Yard team is working through 40,000 pieces of information in an investigation codenamed Operation Grange.

The officer in charge, Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood, said on Wednesday police cannot rule out the chance that Madeleine is dead. But he said: “We genuinely believe there is a possibility she is alive.”

Last night the office of Portuguese Attorney General Fernando Jose Pinto Monteiro said: “The case will only be reopened if there are credible and relevant new facts, not mere hypotheses or speculation. So far we have not received any request for the case to be reopened.”

Detectives in Portugal are understood to want the case reopened but the final decision rests with Portuguese courts.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/248171/Brit-police-told-We-won-t-hunt-Madeleine-McCann/

POLICE in Portugal refused to reopen the Madeleine McCann investigation yesterday, claiming there was “no new evidence”.

It comes despite Scotland Yard uncovering 195 new leads into the youngster’s disappearance.


British detectives are convinced Madeleine was abducted in the resort of Praia da Luz and could be found safe and well.


They urged the Portuguese to restart their search after releasing an image of how she could look today.


But her parents’ hopes were crushed last night as Portugal’s deputy police chief Pedro do Carmo insisted: “There are no new elements at the moment that would allow for the reopening of the inquiry.”


A spokesman for Attorney General Fernando Jose Pinto Monteiro, who shut the case in 2008, said it would only be reopened if “credible and relevant new facts” emerged.


Parents Kate, 43, and Gerry, 42, had been “hugely encouraged” by the fresh momentum behind the probe.


Kate was also said to be “particularly pleased” with the new police image of their daughter, whose ninth birthday is next month.


Family spokesman Clarence Mitchell added: “Of course, that is the girl that people should still be looking for.


“We need to remind people around the world that this is probably what Madeleine looks like today, not the very famous picture of her when she went missing. This is Madeleine as a young girl now.


“Kate particularly feels there is a very strong family resemblance.


“She sees Madeleine, Sean and Amelie (her twin brother and sister) and herself in the image.” A Metropolitan Police spokesman last night revealed a good response to the new Madeleine image.


He said: “We have received a steady flow of calls following yesterday’s appeal and officers are now working through the information.”


Det Chief Insp Andy Redwood, who is leading the review of the case, said: “We would like the case to be reopened.”


On May 3 it will be five years since three-year-old Madeleine went missing

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-hunt-stalls-as-portuguese-808245

Maddy hunt stalls: Portuguese cops refuse to reopen case despite 195 new leads

One of the country’s top police chiefs insisted there was no fresh evidence in the five-year-old case to warrant a new probe

THE hunt for Madeleine McCann stalled yesterday as Portuguese cops refuse to reopen the case.

Parents Kate and Gerry McCann were given renewed hope on Wednesday when British police said they believe Madeleine is still alive.

But those hopes were dashed yesterday when Portuguese authorities ruled out reopening their botched original investigation.

One of the country’s top police chiefs insisted there was no fresh evidence in the five-year-old case to warrant a new probe.

And Portugal’s Attorney General said new leads uncovered by Scotland Yard were nothing more than “mere speculation”.

Pedro do Carmo, the deputy head of the criminal police department, said the investigation - which ended in July 2008 - would remain closed.

His comments came just 24 hours after British police reviewing Madeleine’s disappearance said she could still be alive.

Scotland Yard detectives said they had uncovered 195 potential new leads while sifting through 40,000 pieces of information in the case.

They urged their Portuguese counterparts to re-open their search for the youngster, who vanished in May 2007.

But Mr do Carmo yesterday ruled that out.

He said: “There are no new elements at the moment that would allow for the reopening of the inquiry.”

Mr do Carmo said that a team of investigators would continue “to re-examine elements of the inquiry” in collaboration with British police.

But he warned that such a practice was normal and did not mean they will be reopening the case.

He also revealed that the Portuguese police had received “no formal request for the reopening of the inquiry” from UK cops.

Portugal’s Attorney General Fernando Jose Pinto Monteiro later backed up Mr do Carmo’s comments.

A spokeswoman for his office said: “The case will only be reopened if there are credible and relevant new facts, not mere hypotheses or speculation.

“So far we have not received any request for the case to be reopened.

Mr Pinto Monteiro archived the Madeleine investigation in July 2008 and the case cannot be reopened without the permission of his office.

The Attorney General’s office supervises investigations by the Judicial Police, the force in charge of the Madeleine case.

Madeleine, who would now be eight-years-old, vanished from her parents’ holiday apartment in Praia da Luz.

Kate and Gerry, from Rothley, Leics, were dining with friends at a nearby Tapas restaurant at the time of her disappearance.

Police this week issued a new age-progression image of the youngster as she would now look as she approaches her ninth birthday.

The officer leading the review, Det Chief Insp Andy Redwood, said there were 195 “investigative opportunities”.

But he refused to say what evidence they had uncovered to suggest Madeleine was alive.

“Evidence that she is alive stems from the forensic view of the timeline,” he said.

“There were opportunities there for Madeleine McCann to have been taken as part of a criminal act.

“We are developing material we believe represents genuinely new information.

“We would like the case to be reopened. We are working with the police to get ourselves to that position.”

The review was launched last year after a meeting between former Met commissioner Sir Paul Stephenson and the Home Office.

A Met Police spokesman said last night: “Officers conducting the investigative review continue to work closely and collaoratively with the Portuguese authorities.

“There are significant differences in our legal systems. We recognise the law does not allow them to investigate as the case is currently closed.

“We do still believe, however, that there are matters which need to be considered, and therefore we are currently seeking a more formal way of addressing this.”

He added: “We have received a steady flow of calls following yesterday’s appeal and officers are now working through the information.”

The spokesman said there is no official process allowing Scotland Yard detectives to pursue a case under foreign jurisdiction.

He said: “We can’t compel the Portuguese to do anything but we will keep trying and we don’t think this is the end. We will keep lobbying.”

Last night a source close to the McCanns said: “Kate and Gerry agree with what Scotland Yard on Wednesday. They will speak publicly next week.”




“So far we have not received any request for the case to be reopened. ???????????????????

bb1 wrote:I have a question.

WHY, IF THE FORKERS, GHOULS AND GONC FANS ARE SO CONVINCED THE MCCANNS DONE IT, DON'T THEY WANT A FULL RE-INVESTIGATION OF THE CASE?

SURELY SCOTLAND YARD AND PORTO PJ WOULD SOON SEE THINGS THE SAME WAY AS ARMCHAIR DETECTIVES LIKE THEM?

WHAT'S MORAIS' PROBLEM? DOESN'T SHE WANT GONC TO BE CONGRATULATED BY THE YARD ON BEING SUCH A TOP 'TEC?

I thought they did want a full reinvestigation. Have I lost the plot?

Many thanks, Rose

No, I don't know what the problem is either, Sabot. Scotland Yard seem to be doing all the work, so it isn't as if Portugal will have to foot the bill.

And even if they did, it would still be the British taxpayer who paid, seeing as how we've given them billions of bailout money.

I am taking all of this with a pinch of salt, Bonny. Scotland Yard don't need Portugal to investigate any leads, so I think they are just being polite. And if SY does find out where Madeleine is being held they won't waste time asking for permission from Portugal before they go in and rescue her, Diplomatic Incident or not.

Not sure about The Abductor. Obviously SY can't question Portuguese suspects, and if Portugal don't want to then they have a serious problem which SY and The British Government will know about. And eventually, so will we.
But I can't see France or Italy or Spain refusing to get involved. Or America for that matter. And if there are any Suspects then they are probably already under surveillance.

But for the moment I am just a bit perplexed as to why The Forkers suddenly don't want a reopening of The Case.

Oh, and Amaral has just kicked himself in the bollox again by admitting that The PJ are investigating him and his cronies. We all knew that anyway, but now the rest of the world does as well.

I think you are right, Sabot, there was/is a diplomatic dance going on behind the scenes - remember, the Portuguese and UK PMs met in London last week.

This matter most certainly would have been discussed in a civilized manner.

IMO, Gonc and the gang are running scared, which is why they have tried to wreck good relationships YET AGAIN - I bet wish Gonc would like to have the Yard tailed, like he did to the UK police in 2007.

Why he thinks he can dictate to anyone is beyond me; his days of showing people those dangerous police stations stairs are long gone.

And yes, it was nice of him to tell the entire world the PJ are gunning for him - I hope the UK press pick up on that, and why he is under investigation.

Personally, I don't care if Portugal refuses to reopen The Case, although I have no doubt that the PJ Team in Oporto knows what went on. I do believe that most of the current day PJ are really okay and honest Policemen, even if some of them have recently been given a push in the right direction.

But I would like to address this nonsense about The McCanns being able to keep The Case open, and being able still to ask. This is simply NOT TRUE. Even when The Case was shelved The McCanns had to be able to produce some NEW EVIDENCE which they simply could not do, especially since they had no real idea at the time of what had gone on. It has been completely ignored that The McCanns would have had to apply to a Portuguese Court stating what their NEW EVIDENCE was. Only then would The Case have remained open. This is a stated Legal Fact.
Never at anytime did this have anything to do with 48 Questions or a Reconstruction.
Although they could have Confessed. That is the only other alternative for a Case to remain open in Portuguese Law.
And I am becoming increasingly pissed off by the fact that this is never mentioned, despite the fact that Amaral and Morais know that what I am saying is true.