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Translating this:
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2012/04/goncalo-amaral-interviewed-by-judite-de.html
in all its glory was not one of Morais' best ideas. He appears to think that Porto PJ can't solve the McCann case because they have too much information, and also that the PJ is out to get him, quote:
JS: Gonçalo, explain me one issue. In your point of view, what are the reasons that led the National Judiciary Police Directorate to send to Oporto the Maddie McCann case?
GA: The reasons? They were justified by Dr. Pedro do Carmo, because of the distance, because of the geographical distance, the distance in terms of people, but in terms of competence...
JS: And what do those reasons tell you?
GA: In Lisbon, for example the former DCCB7, the current National Unit Against Terrorism have much more experienced people - I'm not talking about competence - but much more experienced people in the area of abductions, kidnappings, disappearances and so on, than Oporto has. Oporto only has...
JS: So, you don't understand that decision?
GA: My colleague, that I know very well, Dr. Helena Monteiro, has a big case, the case of the young woman from Lamego, that disappeared there and later appeared close to the motorway connection to Régua8, it's an important case but the young woman was dead, she had been there for a month, and they could have located her with a GPS, but well...To state that they have a great experience [in missing people cases] it doesn't make much sense.
JS: But are you saying that your colleagues from Oporto....
GA: They are very competent, have no doubts about that. They are police officers, they are competent, they are criminal investigators, they are competent.
JS: But you don't believe that they can solve this case?
GA: Too many pages. Too much indicia, too many things that need to be read, and sometimes it's difficult to read 9.
JS: Gonçalo Amaral, what happened to your team? To the persons who worked with you during the investigation to this case?
GA: They are being persecuted, case by case, they are being persecuted. The last case was with my colleague, Ricardo Paiva 10, who was a target of an entrapment, an entrapment at facebook [social site], and Dr. Pedro do Carmo immediately stated that he had violated a number of duties, etc. It's interesting because Pedro do Carmo....
JS: One question...
GA: Allow me to conclude, in terms of disciplinary processes Dr. Pedro do Carmo was the person who had to make a decision, and immediately before any investigation is made to that incident, he stated that Ricardo Paiva had violated the secrecy of, a series of duties, and we have to ask, why does this happen? Why does someone, a deputy director of the Judiciary Police, comes to the public, on his tiptoes11, speaking against him [a colleague]? It's because they are witnesses. Ricardo Paiva is one of my witnesses in the process the McCann couple have against me, and why do these directors, these people who are now directors - at this moment they are representing the Judiciary Police, but they are not the Judiciary Police - the Judiciary Police has a history, beyond these directors..
JS: Let me go back to the point that you just made, what you are saying is that your colleagues that remain active, in the Judiciary Police, are being persecuted?
GA: There are no doubts about that.
JS: Inside the Judiciary Police?
GA: Inside the Judiciary Police.
JS: They are suffering retaliations?
GA: They are suffering retaliations, simply because they worked with me. I can't go to the police, I can't contact anyone because immediate retaliations follow. That has happened before. Therefore I limit myself to the life in my neighbourhood, it's a pretty neighbourhood, very close to the EXPO, where I lived for forty years, and now I'm back again
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2012/04/goncalo-amaral-interviewed-by-judite-de.html
in all its glory was not one of Morais' best ideas. He appears to think that Porto PJ can't solve the McCann case because they have too much information, and also that the PJ is out to get him, quote:
JS: Gonçalo, explain me one issue. In your point of view, what are the reasons that led the National Judiciary Police Directorate to send to Oporto the Maddie McCann case?
GA: The reasons? They were justified by Dr. Pedro do Carmo, because of the distance, because of the geographical distance, the distance in terms of people, but in terms of competence...
JS: And what do those reasons tell you?
GA: In Lisbon, for example the former DCCB7, the current National Unit Against Terrorism have much more experienced people - I'm not talking about competence - but much more experienced people in the area of abductions, kidnappings, disappearances and so on, than Oporto has. Oporto only has...
JS: So, you don't understand that decision?
GA: My colleague, that I know very well, Dr. Helena Monteiro, has a big case, the case of the young woman from Lamego, that disappeared there and later appeared close to the motorway connection to Régua8, it's an important case but the young woman was dead, she had been there for a month, and they could have located her with a GPS, but well...To state that they have a great experience [in missing people cases] it doesn't make much sense.
JS: But are you saying that your colleagues from Oporto....
GA: They are very competent, have no doubts about that. They are police officers, they are competent, they are criminal investigators, they are competent.
JS: But you don't believe that they can solve this case?
GA: Too many pages. Too much indicia, too many things that need to be read, and sometimes it's difficult to read 9.
JS: Gonçalo Amaral, what happened to your team? To the persons who worked with you during the investigation to this case?
GA: They are being persecuted, case by case, they are being persecuted. The last case was with my colleague, Ricardo Paiva 10, who was a target of an entrapment, an entrapment at facebook [social site], and Dr. Pedro do Carmo immediately stated that he had violated a number of duties, etc. It's interesting because Pedro do Carmo....
JS: One question...
GA: Allow me to conclude, in terms of disciplinary processes Dr. Pedro do Carmo was the person who had to make a decision, and immediately before any investigation is made to that incident, he stated that Ricardo Paiva had violated the secrecy of, a series of duties, and we have to ask, why does this happen? Why does someone, a deputy director of the Judiciary Police, comes to the public, on his tiptoes11, speaking against him [a colleague]? It's because they are witnesses. Ricardo Paiva is one of my witnesses in the process the McCann couple have against me, and why do these directors, these people who are now directors - at this moment they are representing the Judiciary Police, but they are not the Judiciary Police - the Judiciary Police has a history, beyond these directors..
JS: Let me go back to the point that you just made, what you are saying is that your colleagues that remain active, in the Judiciary Police, are being persecuted?
GA: There are no doubts about that.
JS: Inside the Judiciary Police?
GA: Inside the Judiciary Police.
JS: They are suffering retaliations?
GA: They are suffering retaliations, simply because they worked with me. I can't go to the police, I can't contact anyone because immediate retaliations follow. That has happened before. Therefore I limit myself to the life in my neighbourhood, it's a pretty neighbourhood, very close to the EXPO, where I lived for forty years, and now I'm back again
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GA: They are suffering retaliations, simply because they worked with me. I can't go to the police, I can't contact anyone because immediate retaliations follow. That has happened before. Therefore I limit myself to the life in my neighbourhood, it's a pretty neighbourhood, very close to the EXPO, where I lived for forty years, and now I'm back again
Quisk, someone tell the judge, he lives very close to the EXPO
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Frankly, it reads as if he is hiding from the police. As well as hiding from Cristovao.
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Does that mean that none of his previous witnesses in The Book Ban Case are going to support him at The Libel Trial?
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Ricardo seems to be onboard:
Ricardo Paiva is one of my witnesses in the process the McCann couple have against me
Let's hope he doesn't show the court his 'police weapon' - allegedly, of course.
Ricardo Paiva is one of my witnesses in the process the McCann couple have against me
Let's hope he doesn't show the court his 'police weapon' - allegedly, of course.
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Perhaps Paiva will get Dirty Swine Flu.
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It is very rare for fellow officers, serving or otherwise, to turn against a former officer.
So what do his former colleagues know about him; that the Portuguese layman doesn't?
So what do his former colleagues know about him; that the Portuguese layman doesn't?
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Tony, every day when I look at the Portuguese press, I half-expect to see that Gonc has been arrested for alleged involvement in something truly ghastly.
This business of him being shunned by the PJ seems to have been a constant refrain. Remember the letter his ex-wife wrote to Kate McCann?
http://justice4mccannfam.5forum.biz/t1853-sofia-amaral
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My husband was involved as senior coordinator, and between seizures of drugs, kidnappings and murders, he succeeded in producing a theory about drug trafficking by sea, which he defended before a jury in Lisbon, who congratulated him.
Full of hope, Gonçalo Amaral returned to the Algarve to await the result. It was with astonishment that he learned that he had been passed over by other colleagues (coordinators as it happens, to tell the truth), because he had not managed to get himself into "professonal training" settings
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Drugs coming into Portugal by sea??? The man's a genius
So, he was, strangely, passed over for promotion despite his brilliant theory, and then no-one local would go to his 'retirement' dinner.
Now, he appears to be convinced the PJ are out to get him, and well, hiding from the police.
I have no idea what this is about, but this is not normal behaviour, IMO. Either he has gone completely bonkers, or he is up to his fat neck in some very serious criminal activity - possibly involving Cristovao.
This business of him being shunned by the PJ seems to have been a constant refrain. Remember the letter his ex-wife wrote to Kate McCann?
http://justice4mccannfam.5forum.biz/t1853-sofia-amaral
quote:
My husband was involved as senior coordinator, and between seizures of drugs, kidnappings and murders, he succeeded in producing a theory about drug trafficking by sea, which he defended before a jury in Lisbon, who congratulated him.
Full of hope, Gonçalo Amaral returned to the Algarve to await the result. It was with astonishment that he learned that he had been passed over by other colleagues (coordinators as it happens, to tell the truth), because he had not managed to get himself into "professonal training" settings
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Drugs coming into Portugal by sea??? The man's a genius
So, he was, strangely, passed over for promotion despite his brilliant theory, and then no-one local would go to his 'retirement' dinner.
Now, he appears to be convinced the PJ are out to get him, and well, hiding from the police.
I have no idea what this is about, but this is not normal behaviour, IMO. Either he has gone completely bonkers, or he is up to his fat neck in some very serious criminal activity - possibly involving Cristovao.
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Wek now by now that he is a crook, and totally lacking in principles, so it would be hard to believe that he never did anything dishonest while serving in The PJ.
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Something is taking place and it isn't good.
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crazytony wrote:Something is taking place and it isn't good.
Yes, and we certainly won't find out from Morais - we will have to set poor Pedro to reading every single Portuguese newspaper. Just kidding, Pedro.
Whatever it is, it must be pretty bad.
I can't go to the police, I can't contact anyone because immediate retaliations follow.
What on earth is that about? Are the PJ IN IT now, too?
IMO, it's something to do with the Cristovao scandal? I shudder to think what the PJ found on his hard drives, and it was about the time that the trouble with Cristovao erupted that Gonc starting acting even more peculiarly than usual.
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His ex colleagues have probably been warned to stay away from him. Heaven knows why. Drugs, perhaps? There appears to have been a fair old amount kicking around that could have gone missing.
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IMO, it's something to do with the Cristovao scandal?
I do not believe they will find anything on Cristovao's computers. Anyone with his background, would have everything on external disks and; they will be in a very safe place.
I do not believe they will find anything on Cristovao's computers. Anyone with his background, would have everything on external disks and; they will be in a very safe place.
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Frankly, he sounds to me like he is running scared, Sabot. What's this all about?
GA: My colleague, that I know very well, Dr. Helena Monteiro, has a big case, the case of the young woman from Lamego, that disappeared there and later appeared close to the motorway connection to Régua8, it's an important case but the young woman was dead, she had been there for a month, and they could have located her with a GPS, but well...To state that they have a great experience [in missing people cases] it doesn't make much sense.
Why so rude? This is the missing woman he is on about - it was a freak road accident:
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2012/03/loose-ends-of-case-only-cleared-up-with.html
Special Unit from the Judiciary Police found Carina
A month of searches
Initially there were talks of an abduction with possible connections to former boyfriends. But there were no signs from Carina Ferreira, 21 years old. Her cell phones were inactive and her bank accounts had no activity. The dimension of the mystery, that caused a deep impression in the month of May of 2010, and the absence of answers to several clues, lead the Director of the Judiciary Police from Oporto to develop a special unit.
A month and one week later, and following various false alarms, the case was solved. The inspectors found strange that some of the vegetation of a ravine near the A24 showed signs of devastation. They were searching an area, which according to the triangulation of the last signals sent by her cell phones, was the route taken by the missing young woman.
The investigators descented the ravine and felt a putrid smell. They went down a little further and found the Peugeot 106 toppled-over, already covered by some bushes. Inside it was the body of Carina, in an advanced state of decomposition, with the seat belt on and her mobile phones discharged. If someone had wanted to hide the cadaver, probably they would not have found a place so unusual. Her death was ruled out as an accident.
Experienced in Drug Trafficking cases
The current responsible for the revision of the Maddie case, Helena Monteiro, is the only superior coordinator from the PJ in Oporto. Now at the Section for Criminal Investigation and Prevention of the PJ, has an extensive curriculum connected with drug trafficking cases and robbery. She worked as well in Madeira. Regarded as dedicated and not very talkative, she has also worked at the Public Ministry.
It sounds to me as if Ms Monteiro is a most sensible person, and being dedicated, and not talkative, will be a vast improvement on Gonc.
So, why is he bad-mouthing her? He sounds terrified she and her team are going to find Madeleine's trail. And being rude about serving PJ officers scarcely helps his cause.
I'm not sure about Cristovao, Tony, he seems to be an arrogant so-and-so, and there was that business over the passwords.
Time will, as ever, tell.
GA: My colleague, that I know very well, Dr. Helena Monteiro, has a big case, the case of the young woman from Lamego, that disappeared there and later appeared close to the motorway connection to Régua8, it's an important case but the young woman was dead, she had been there for a month, and they could have located her with a GPS, but well...To state that they have a great experience [in missing people cases] it doesn't make much sense.
Why so rude? This is the missing woman he is on about - it was a freak road accident:
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2012/03/loose-ends-of-case-only-cleared-up-with.html
Special Unit from the Judiciary Police found Carina
A month of searches
Initially there were talks of an abduction with possible connections to former boyfriends. But there were no signs from Carina Ferreira, 21 years old. Her cell phones were inactive and her bank accounts had no activity. The dimension of the mystery, that caused a deep impression in the month of May of 2010, and the absence of answers to several clues, lead the Director of the Judiciary Police from Oporto to develop a special unit.
A month and one week later, and following various false alarms, the case was solved. The inspectors found strange that some of the vegetation of a ravine near the A24 showed signs of devastation. They were searching an area, which according to the triangulation of the last signals sent by her cell phones, was the route taken by the missing young woman.
The investigators descented the ravine and felt a putrid smell. They went down a little further and found the Peugeot 106 toppled-over, already covered by some bushes. Inside it was the body of Carina, in an advanced state of decomposition, with the seat belt on and her mobile phones discharged. If someone had wanted to hide the cadaver, probably they would not have found a place so unusual. Her death was ruled out as an accident.
Experienced in Drug Trafficking cases
The current responsible for the revision of the Maddie case, Helena Monteiro, is the only superior coordinator from the PJ in Oporto. Now at the Section for Criminal Investigation and Prevention of the PJ, has an extensive curriculum connected with drug trafficking cases and robbery. She worked as well in Madeira. Regarded as dedicated and not very talkative, she has also worked at the Public Ministry.
It sounds to me as if Ms Monteiro is a most sensible person, and being dedicated, and not talkative, will be a vast improvement on Gonc.
So, why is he bad-mouthing her? He sounds terrified she and her team are going to find Madeleine's trail. And being rude about serving PJ officers scarcely helps his cause.
I'm not sure about Cristovao, Tony, he seems to be an arrogant so-and-so, and there was that business over the passwords.
Time will, as ever, tell.
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There are so many possibilities for Gonc to be scared that it is hard to know where to start. But it seems to me that something most peculiar has been going on in The Algarve for some considerable time, like years even.
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bb1 wrote:Tony, every day when I look at the Portuguese press, I half-expect to see that Gonc has been arrested for alleged involvement in something truly ghastly.
I have the same feeling. Not only Amaral, Christavao & Paiva too. IMO, these three share the information to get to the bottom of the abduction of Madeleine McCann....and more cases.
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I know, Rose, there is something....
What does Gonc think he is achieving by attacking Porto PJ like this? What's he so scared of?
What does Gonc think he is achieving by attacking Porto PJ like this? What's he so scared of?
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bb1 wrote:I know, Rose, there is something....
What does Gonc think he is achieving by attacking Porto PJ like this? What's he so scared of?
He's scared of some good decent cops doing some proper police work on him, Bonny!
They will know him of old, and what he's done in the past.
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JS: But you don't believe that they can solve this case?
GA: Too many pages. Too much indicia, too many things that need to be read, and sometimes it's difficult to read 9***.
What on earth is he talking about? Is he seriously saying he cannot deal with any evidence that hasn't been beaten out of someone?
*** Morais has splattered the translation with her own, numbered 'interpretations', as well as putting her own 'interpretations in the actual article in [].
For some bizarre reason, she thinks 9 refers to Kate McCann.
9. Perhaps a reference to «She is consumed with the hunt for her daughter, every day she will spend 3 hours reading documents, looking for the vital clue which will answer the question that has tortured her and Gerry for 21 agonising months.» in Mirror tabloid, Jan. 31, 2009 or more likely, to the record analysis and read of the whole process that has dozens of volumes, thousands of pages and to the moment of its archival by the two prosecutors related to the case, all made in 20 days, between the 1st of July and the 21st of July of 2008.
How she comes to that conclusion I do not know. It's a pity Gonc is in hiding, or she could have asked him what he actually meant, not what she thinks he meant.
Maybe she could track him down by wandering around the EXPO area shouting, Free beer and shrimps?
GA: Too many pages. Too much indicia, too many things that need to be read, and sometimes it's difficult to read 9***.
What on earth is he talking about? Is he seriously saying he cannot deal with any evidence that hasn't been beaten out of someone?
*** Morais has splattered the translation with her own, numbered 'interpretations', as well as putting her own 'interpretations in the actual article in [].
For some bizarre reason, she thinks 9 refers to Kate McCann.
9. Perhaps a reference to «She is consumed with the hunt for her daughter, every day she will spend 3 hours reading documents, looking for the vital clue which will answer the question that has tortured her and Gerry for 21 agonising months.» in Mirror tabloid, Jan. 31, 2009 or more likely, to the record analysis and read of the whole process that has dozens of volumes, thousands of pages and to the moment of its archival by the two prosecutors related to the case, all made in 20 days, between the 1st of July and the 21st of July of 2008.
How she comes to that conclusion I do not know. It's a pity Gonc is in hiding, or she could have asked him what he actually meant, not what she thinks he meant.
Maybe she could track him down by wandering around the EXPO area shouting, Free beer and shrimps?
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Joana Morais @xklamation
"Kate and Gerry #McCann: Amaral's documentary will never be shown in England" They forgot the internet!
And nutter shall speak unto nutter
"Kate and Gerry #McCann: Amaral's documentary will never be shown in England" They forgot the internet!
And nutter shall speak unto nutter
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Forker, of Gonc:
Thats why they are suing him, to stop him telling what he knows.....they HAVE to win the case to prevent him from talking.
And what, pray tell, has stopped the fat man 'talking' at any point in the last four years?
He is a permanent fixture on Portuguese daytime TV sofas; he could have 'talked' at any time.
He could have 'talked' when he was on Panorama a few weeks ago, directly to a UK audience.
He could have 'talked' to the Express on many different occasions.
He has CdM on speed-dial.
He could have chosen to take any of these opportunities to 'talk' but didn't - so why would that be?
Oh wait, it's because he knows naff all about anything, and never did know, and doesn't have an Ace up his Sleeve. He's a hollow man.
The only person likely to be worried about Gonc 'talking' is his ex-best friend Cristovao.
Why do the forkers not ask why Gonc is badmouthing Porto PJ, and hiding from the rest of the PJ? Too much for their tiny 'minds' to handle?
Thats why they are suing him, to stop him telling what he knows.....they HAVE to win the case to prevent him from talking.
And what, pray tell, has stopped the fat man 'talking' at any point in the last four years?
He is a permanent fixture on Portuguese daytime TV sofas; he could have 'talked' at any time.
He could have 'talked' when he was on Panorama a few weeks ago, directly to a UK audience.
He could have 'talked' to the Express on many different occasions.
He has CdM on speed-dial.
He could have chosen to take any of these opportunities to 'talk' but didn't - so why would that be?
Oh wait, it's because he knows naff all about anything, and never did know, and doesn't have an Ace up his Sleeve. He's a hollow man.
The only person likely to be worried about Gonc 'talking' is his ex-best friend Cristovao.
Why do the forkers not ask why Gonc is badmouthing Porto PJ, and hiding from the rest of the PJ? Too much for their tiny 'minds' to handle?
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GA is a moron.
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About:
"What does Gonc think he is achieving by attacking Porto PJ like this? What's he so scared of?
He's scared of some good decent cops doing some proper police work on him, Bonny! ", I agree with this.
"What does Gonc think he is achieving by attacking Porto PJ like this? What's he so scared of?
He's scared of some good decent cops doing some proper police work on him, Bonny! ", I agree with this.
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Gonc mouthpiece Morais has done something especially nasty and tacky today:
Five Years...
12 May 2012 at 5:41:00 PM | Posted by Joana Morais 0 comments
Maurice Ravel: Pavane pour une infante défunte (Pavane for a Dead Princess) (191...
Until the day dawns when she finally tells the truth about what is happening in Portugal in general, and with the running -scared Gonc in particular, then she would be well advised to zip it.
She's nothing to contribute apart from yet more lies.
Why doesn't she do something useful for once, like telling the truth about why Gonc is hiding from the PJ?
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12 May 2012 at 5:41:00 PM | Posted by Joana Morais 0 comments
Maurice Ravel: Pavane pour une infante défunte (Pavane for a Dead Princess) (191...
Until the day dawns when she finally tells the truth about what is happening in Portugal in general, and with the running -scared Gonc in particular, then she would be well advised to zip it.
She's nothing to contribute apart from yet more lies.
Why doesn't she do something useful for once, like telling the truth about why Gonc is hiding from the PJ?
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I wonder if the intercepted emails Amaral has will come into play soon, #McCann heres hoping SY push him too far
That'll be the emails that don't exist anywhere except Gonc's fat head? What a silly forker
I wonder if the intercepted emails Amaral has will come into play soon, #McCann heres hoping SY push him too far
That'll be the emails that don't exist anywhere except Gonc's fat head? What a silly forker
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