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Internal politics, maybe, Sabot? Remember, these people were riding high for a very long time, and were never out of the Portuguese media bleating about their non-existent 'honour'.
Maybe the will just wasn't there? And Morais and her ilk were pushing the line that any criticism of their pet thugs outside Portugal was 'lusophobic' and 'racist'.
Logically, that is like stating that being none too keen on the Sicilian Mafia is being 'Italophobic' and 'racist', but she very nearly pulled it off; indeed, quite a few of the shrooms still think that way.
IMO, I would not be at all surprised if she wasn't dragged into this mess, as one of the Useful Idiots; she and one or two others have been acting as mouthpieces for this gang for a long time.
Her name is, IMO, bound to be on Cristovao's 'dossiers' somewhere or other, along with her ex-squeeze Levy.
Maybe the will just wasn't there? And Morais and her ilk were pushing the line that any criticism of their pet thugs outside Portugal was 'lusophobic' and 'racist'.
Logically, that is like stating that being none too keen on the Sicilian Mafia is being 'Italophobic' and 'racist', but she very nearly pulled it off; indeed, quite a few of the shrooms still think that way.
IMO, I would not be at all surprised if she wasn't dragged into this mess, as one of the Useful Idiots; she and one or two others have been acting as mouthpieces for this gang for a long time.
Her name is, IMO, bound to be on Cristovao's 'dossiers' somewhere or other, along with her ex-squeeze Levy.
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But that was a deliberate Miscarriage of Justice, Bonny. And then The High Court turned down Leonor Cipriano's Appeal. Judges had to be involved in this.
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I should think there are one or two worried judges in Portugal right now, Sabot.
I have never, ever forgotten Carolina/Montclair rushing to tell Morais' forum that Gonc had got off torture charges on a technicality.
Now, that was turned over on appeal, and he is still facing charges - BUT no announcement had been made by the court, no press statement.
Morais' shrooms knew about it before anyone else.
Also, that strange, hole-in-corner supposed overturning of the ban on Gonc's book. Ms Duarte knew nothing about it - but smiffy got his paws on the judgement.
Something very stinky has been going on, and ANYONE who has had dealings with these people should be very, very worried, IMO.
I have never, ever forgotten Carolina/Montclair rushing to tell Morais' forum that Gonc had got off torture charges on a technicality.
Now, that was turned over on appeal, and he is still facing charges - BUT no announcement had been made by the court, no press statement.
Morais' shrooms knew about it before anyone else.
Also, that strange, hole-in-corner supposed overturning of the ban on Gonc's book. Ms Duarte knew nothing about it - but smiffy got his paws on the judgement.
Something very stinky has been going on, and ANYONE who has had dealings with these people should be very, very worried, IMO.
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Can you please point me to where Tony Bennett has commented on the Cristovao story?
He is never short of words about any person who has even the vaguest connection to the McCann case so I look forward to seeing what he has said so far about this development now affecting one of Amaral's friends in the PJ.
Likewise links to any Joana Morais comments about the situation would be most appreciated. I try to keep up with the story from all sides and would like to see her input.
He is never short of words about any person who has even the vaguest connection to the McCann case so I look forward to seeing what he has said so far about this development now affecting one of Amaral's friends in the PJ.
Likewise links to any Joana Morais comments about the situation would be most appreciated. I try to keep up with the story from all sides and would like to see her input.
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There hasn't been a word from either of them in public, Greenink.
Indeed, Morais hasn't been publically sighted for some weeks now.
I am surprised that Bennett hasn't said anything, as his home forum has an entire section devoted to Cristovao's 'book'. Indeed, Bennett was intending to use it in his defence.....
Here he is, boasting about it:
http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t5015-truth-of-the-lie-returns-to-bookshops-but-not-in-the-uk
The English translation of 'The Truth About A Lie' by Anna Esse is one of the documents already exhibited to my two Affidavits and will form part of my defence to the committal-to-prison application against me by Dr Gerald and Dr Kate McCann - and part of my application to be released from some of the Court undertakings I gave to the McCanns and the High Court on 25 November 2007.
So will the entirety of 'astro's translation of A Estrela de Madeleine - 'Madeleine's Star' - by Paulo Cristavao.
Can you imagine anything stupider and more self-destructive?
So no, neither of them have uttered a syllable in public.
Indeed, Morais hasn't been publically sighted for some weeks now.
I am surprised that Bennett hasn't said anything, as his home forum has an entire section devoted to Cristovao's 'book'. Indeed, Bennett was intending to use it in his defence.....
Here he is, boasting about it:
http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t5015-truth-of-the-lie-returns-to-bookshops-but-not-in-the-uk
The English translation of 'The Truth About A Lie' by Anna Esse is one of the documents already exhibited to my two Affidavits and will form part of my defence to the committal-to-prison application against me by Dr Gerald and Dr Kate McCann - and part of my application to be released from some of the Court undertakings I gave to the McCanns and the High Court on 25 November 2007.
So will the entirety of 'astro's translation of A Estrela de Madeleine - 'Madeleine's Star' - by Paulo Cristavao.
Can you imagine anything stupider and more self-destructive?
So no, neither of them have uttered a syllable in public.
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I have been worried about Portuguese Judges for some considerable time, but I have failed to pick up on any specific names, although I assume their names must have been mentioned in specific Cases. Does anyone have any info on this, like who the three Judges were at The Cipriano Trial. Especially the one who went on record as believing she Leonor was innocent? Oh, and the one who tried to get Amaral off the torture of Leandro Silva?
As for Bennett and Cristovao's book. Didn't that contain the lie about The Six Corpses? The High Court will love that.
Sheesh, I am getting annoyed again.
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As for Bennett and Cristovao's book. Didn't that contain the lie about The Six Corpses? The High Court will love that.
Yes, Sabot, spot on.
Cristovao invented the 'six corpses' story, that so many of the forkers, hounders and haters still believe.
Yes, Sabot, spot on.
Cristovao invented the 'six corpses' story, that so many of the forkers, hounders and haters still believe.
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Here's the proof. As anyone who has read the vile thing knows, Cristovao pretended he had 'interrogated' Kate McCann - fortunately, without the use of hoods, ashtrays, etc.
Astro translated this bollox:
http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic11923.html
On the tv monitor, Eddie can be seen sniffing over Kate's clothing and marking that it had been in contact with a cadaver. The reactions of the dogs in the vehicle that had been used by Madeleine's parents can also be seen.
- At the medical center where I work, in England, before we came on holidays, people died whom I had been in contact with... you must be forgetting that I am a doctor...
- Yes you are - João Tavared replies - and the death rate at the medical center where you work twice a week is extremely high...
- It's true - the arguida replies.
- Did you ever give your children any medicine to make them sleep?
- No, never - she replies with indignation.
This was a rhetorical question, as it was known that Kate's father had stated that it was usual for them to give the children Calpol to sleep.
CRISTOVAO INVENTED THE WHOLE DAMN THING
But just look at the forum myths crammed into that brief extract alone.
Be in no doubt, Cristovao, the person currently facing charges of fraud, corruption and general gangsterism, is the person who is behind a very great deal of the crap, lies, inventions, sicko fantasies, and general anti-McCann propaganda that would have done Goebells proud.
I wonder just how many of the anti-McCanners are going to go down with him? Because anyone who turns up in communications on his assorted computers is liable to be in big, big trouble.
Astro translated this bollox:
http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic11923.html
On the tv monitor, Eddie can be seen sniffing over Kate's clothing and marking that it had been in contact with a cadaver. The reactions of the dogs in the vehicle that had been used by Madeleine's parents can also be seen.
- At the medical center where I work, in England, before we came on holidays, people died whom I had been in contact with... you must be forgetting that I am a doctor...
- Yes you are - João Tavared replies - and the death rate at the medical center where you work twice a week is extremely high...
- It's true - the arguida replies.
- Did you ever give your children any medicine to make them sleep?
- No, never - she replies with indignation.
This was a rhetorical question, as it was known that Kate's father had stated that it was usual for them to give the children Calpol to sleep.
CRISTOVAO INVENTED THE WHOLE DAMN THING
But just look at the forum myths crammed into that brief extract alone.
Be in no doubt, Cristovao, the person currently facing charges of fraud, corruption and general gangsterism, is the person who is behind a very great deal of the crap, lies, inventions, sicko fantasies, and general anti-McCann propaganda that would have done Goebells proud.
I wonder just how many of the anti-McCanners are going to go down with him? Because anyone who turns up in communications on his assorted computers is liable to be in big, big trouble.
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bb1 wrote:There hasn't been a word from either of them in public, Greenink.
Indeed, Morais hasn't been publically sighted for some weeks now.
I am surprised that Bennett hasn't said anything, as his home forum has an entire section devoted to Cristovao's 'book'. Indeed, Bennett was intending to use it in his defence.....
Here he is, boasting about it:
http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t5015-truth-of-the-lie-returns-to-bookshops-but-not-in-the-uk
The English translation of 'The Truth About A Lie' by Anna Esse is one of the documents already exhibited to my two Affidavits and will form part of my defence to the committal-to-prison application against me by Dr Gerald and Dr Kate McCann - and part of my application to be released from some of the Court undertakings I gave to the McCanns and the High Court on 25 November 2007.
So will the entirety of 'astro's translation of A Estrela de Madeleine - 'Madeleine's Star' - by Paulo Cristavao.
Can you imagine anything stupider and more self-destructive?
So no, neither of them have uttered a syllable in public.
So not a single comment from people who normally are so verbose. Very interesting. I wonder if they are ashamed of the turnaround or are they just stumped as to how to explain the fact another of their heroes is likely to be charged with criminal offences just as Amaral was (and later convicted in his case).
As for Bennett offering up to Carter Ruck the Annaesse translation of the Amaral book. I hope he has made it clear to them and the judge that it is a very suspect translation of the original because that is the truth about it. There are sections of her translation which WHOLLY MISREPRESENT the original book. I wonder what judge in this country will take such a translation seriously? I wonder if indeed the judge can actually accept a version of a book which has undergone two amateur translations as any kind of evidence? Maybe someone with legal expertise could look into that?
And I wonder what translation of the Cristovao book he has offered up. Is there a professionally translated English version?
edited to add Our posts crossed. So Astro (I presume another amateur) translated that book did she? Again then would that translation be acceptable? Would Bennett not be expected to get a proper translation done to present that to the court? Will the judge accept amateur work which can be shown to be so appallingly bad?
Is the use of flaky translations going to scupper Bennett's case? Because any judge who accepts such things as evidence will surely find Carter Ruck challenging his decision at the earliest opportunity.
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Astro's is the only translation I have ever seen, Greenink. I am actually hoping Bennett DOES use that 'book' in its entirety - it's...what can you say? A completely fictional Penny Dreadful? Lies and libel from start to finish? A complete invention?
Can a 'book' actually get worse than Cristovao pretending he has 'interrogated' someone, and inventing her imaginary replies?
That's a very good point about Amaral's effort - the translation we know does NOT conform to the original, as you demonstrated.
Both of these efforts are of no value at all; indeed, anyone would forgive the judge if he had Bennett stuck in a cell till he stopped treating the High Court with such contempt.
Can a 'book' actually get worse than Cristovao pretending he has 'interrogated' someone, and inventing her imaginary replies?
That's a very good point about Amaral's effort - the translation we know does NOT conform to the original, as you demonstrated.
Both of these efforts are of no value at all; indeed, anyone would forgive the judge if he had Bennett stuck in a cell till he stopped treating the High Court with such contempt.
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Sabot wrote:
I have been worried about Portuguese Judges for some considerable time, but I have failed to pick up on any specific names, although I assume their names must have been mentioned in specific Cases. Does anyone have any info on this, like who the three Judges were at The Cipriano Trial. Especially the one who went on record as believing she Leonor was innocent? Oh, and the one who tried to get Amaral off the torture of Leandro Silva?
As for Bennett and Cristovao's book. Didn't that contain the lie about The Six Corpses? The High Court will love that.
Sheesh, I am getting annoyed again.
Sabot, there is only one magistrate I know of, that has gone against Gonc. Maria Gabriela Rodrigues who kept the injunction of Gonc's book in place.
The problem was she never got to sit again in his case. I think she had quite a lot of stick from anti's at the time.
I will try and find the judge who went on record as believing Leonor was innocent. I have it somewhere.
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Thanks, Maggs. Some of these Judges need looking at.
And as for Cristovao, what was he doing on The Algarve at Kate's Interrogation if he lived in Lisbon? Anyone believing that load of bollox needs their head looking at. But I hope Bennett presents it in Court as well. Although it is obvious that The Judge is not going to be even remotely interested in any old translation of either of these books.
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It's freaky when you think about it.
Here you have someone who is already in trouble for 'interrogating' the mother of a missing child by torture - allegedly, of course. Note how nicely that was phrased in the Portuguese story I posted earlier today:
The inspector would eventually be acquitted, even though it had been proved in court that someone had attacked Leonor within the PJ in Faro.
Anyway, despite that, he then goes onto write a supposed 'book' in which he fantasises about 'interrogating' the mother of another child, even going so far as to invent the woman's replies.
Wierd or what? Yet the forkers and hounders think every word of it is true.
I'll have to check, Sabot, but I think Cristovao had 'retired' *cough* from the PJ by the time Madeleine was abducted?
Here you have someone who is already in trouble for 'interrogating' the mother of a missing child by torture - allegedly, of course. Note how nicely that was phrased in the Portuguese story I posted earlier today:
The inspector would eventually be acquitted, even though it had been proved in court that someone had attacked Leonor within the PJ in Faro.
Anyway, despite that, he then goes onto write a supposed 'book' in which he fantasises about 'interrogating' the mother of another child, even going so far as to invent the woman's replies.
Wierd or what? Yet the forkers and hounders think every word of it is true.
I'll have to check, Sabot, but I think Cristovao had 'retired' *cough* from the PJ by the time Madeleine was abducted?
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According to Expresso:
http://expresso.sapo.pt/pereira-cristovao-tem-processo-disciplinar-ainda-pendente-na-pj=f719640#ixzz1sJoLr1ZK
The leader of Sporting, now suspected to trap the referee Joseph Cardinal left the PJ in 2007, following the hearing of the case of the missing girl,
I will try and find out WHEN in 2007. Bearing in mind that his good friend Gonc was being made an arguido at almost the very same hour as Madeleine McCann was being abducted.
http://expresso.sapo.pt/pereira-cristovao-tem-processo-disciplinar-ainda-pendente-na-pj=f719640#ixzz1sJoLr1ZK
The leader of Sporting, now suspected to trap the referee Joseph Cardinal left the PJ in 2007, following the hearing of the case of the missing girl,
I will try and find out WHEN in 2007. Bearing in mind that his good friend Gonc was being made an arguido at almost the very same hour as Madeleine McCann was being abducted.
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So when did Cristovao write his book? None of what he said is in The Files, so where did he get it from?
And if he was Retired, what was he doing at Portimao Police Station? This is so obviously just made up shite. And they have the nerve to say that no one tried to stitch up The McCanns.
And if he was Retired, what was he doing at Portimao Police Station? This is so obviously just made up shite. And they have the nerve to say that no one tried to stitch up The McCanns.
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According to Cristovao himself in CdM, it was 2006:
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/pj-pede-suspensao-para-investigadores
I was not notified of it and spares me the PJ in 2006,
Maybe he was suspended for a while till he actually 'resigned'.
Either way, he was nowhere near the McCann case, so if Bennett chooses to repeat his inventions in the High Court - well, that's excellent news!
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/pj-pede-suspensao-para-investigadores
I was not notified of it and spares me the PJ in 2006,
Maybe he was suspended for a while till he actually 'resigned'.
Either way, he was nowhere near the McCann case, so if Bennett chooses to repeat his inventions in the High Court - well, that's excellent news!
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So the powers that be knew of this Torture Charge in 2006. In which case what was Amaral doing running The Madeleine investigation? Unbelievable. What the hell was going on with these people? Are Torture Charges so commonplace that no one takes them seriously?
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Look at the date, Sabot:
http://expresso.sapo.pt/policia-arguido-no-processo-das-agressoes-a-leonor-cipriano=f109569
If Joan
Police accused in the case of attacks on Leonor Cipriano
An official of the PJ of Portimão is the seventh police to be involved in the process of the alleged assaults to her mother Joan.
18:00 Friday, May 4, 2007
After it's been through Google:
Gonc should have been removed from the McCann case ON MAY 4TH 2007.
The outcome might have been a lot happier if he had been.
http://expresso.sapo.pt/policia-arguido-no-processo-das-agressoes-a-leonor-cipriano=f109569
If Joan
Police accused in the case of attacks on Leonor Cipriano
An official of the PJ of Portimão is the seventh police to be involved in the process of the alleged assaults to her mother Joan.
18:00 Friday, May 4, 2007
After it's been through Google:
Gonc should have been removed from the McCann case ON MAY 4TH 2007.
The outcome might have been a lot happier if he had been.
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I agree:
"Gonc should have been removed from the McCann case ON MAY 4TH 2007.
The outcome might have been a lot happier if he had been".
fat, liar, corrupt, gonçalo amaral should never been allowed to put his filthy hands in the McCann case.
"Gonc should have been removed from the McCann case ON MAY 4TH 2007.
The outcome might have been a lot happier if he had been".
fat, liar, corrupt, gonçalo amaral should never been allowed to put his filthy hands in the McCann case.
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He isn't the only one who should never have been near it, is he, Pedro? Let's not forget Tavares de Almeida of the discredited report:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,301629,00.html
Quote:
Madeleine McCann Detective on Trial for Torturing Suspect in Unrelated Case
Published October 14, 2007
London Times
A senior Portuguese detective who interviewed Kate McCann and accused her of being involved in the death of her daughter is facing trial for trying to torture a suspect into confessing.
Leaked court papers reveal that Tavares Almeida is one of three officers accused of beating Virgolino Borges, a railway worker, during nearly eight hours of interrogation.
According to witness testimony the officers bound him with handcuffs behind his back, beat his bare feet with a fence post until it splintered and punched him repeatedly in the stomach, kidneys and back.
Almeida is the second leading detective to be accused of torture. Chief Inspector Goncalo Amaral, the investigation’s former co-ordinator, stepped down earlier this month amid separate allegations that he concealed evidence of the torture of a woman jailed for the murder of her daughter.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,301629,00.html
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Madeleine McCann Detective on Trial for Torturing Suspect in Unrelated Case
Published October 14, 2007
London Times
A senior Portuguese detective who interviewed Kate McCann and accused her of being involved in the death of her daughter is facing trial for trying to torture a suspect into confessing.
Leaked court papers reveal that Tavares Almeida is one of three officers accused of beating Virgolino Borges, a railway worker, during nearly eight hours of interrogation.
According to witness testimony the officers bound him with handcuffs behind his back, beat his bare feet with a fence post until it splintered and punched him repeatedly in the stomach, kidneys and back.
Almeida is the second leading detective to be accused of torture. Chief Inspector Goncalo Amaral, the investigation’s former co-ordinator, stepped down earlier this month amid separate allegations that he concealed evidence of the torture of a woman jailed for the murder of her daughter.
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What a pack of savages that graced Portimoa Police Station. If only we had know all of this five years ago. Instead of which we spent two years fighting in the dark and not knowing what to believe. Often being abused and bullied at the hands of people who did know. Did they honestly believe that they would get away with this forever?
And what a disgrace The Nasties are, who condone this sort of behaviour still to this day with their regurgitated malicious lies.
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I am going to be interested to find out the truth about the role in this of one or two in the UK, Sabot.
Bennett has been their chief mouthpiece in the UK. Did he do it because he is a nasty person, or because he was getting fed his orders from Portugal?
Blacksmith is another one, never done boasting about how close he is to Team Gonc. Would anyone be surprised if his name is in Cristovao's files of Useful Idiots?
Have they, in fact, been acting like some kind of Fifth Column for Gonc in the UK? Or do they just enjoy spreading lies and pitchforking the McCann family? Or both, of course....
Bennett has been their chief mouthpiece in the UK. Did he do it because he is a nasty person, or because he was getting fed his orders from Portugal?
Blacksmith is another one, never done boasting about how close he is to Team Gonc. Would anyone be surprised if his name is in Cristovao's files of Useful Idiots?
Have they, in fact, been acting like some kind of Fifth Column for Gonc in the UK? Or do they just enjoy spreading lies and pitchforking the McCann family? Or both, of course....
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There is one thing that worries above all else about Bennett, Bonny. He is and always has been a notorious Police Basher, insisting on Police Corruption and cover ups. So why did he do a complete about face and throw all of his support behind a bunch of corrupt Portuguese Police Officers? This just doesn't make sense. Unless he hates Britain. But it is more likely that he has been recruited for some reason.
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I know, doesn't make sense, does it? Not a word from him about Flores and the Masonic business, either.
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So Bennett only hates British Police and British Masons. But he loves Portuguese Police and Portuguese Masons, especially if they are Fascists and Corrupt.
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