Pretendy 'Investigator' Stalks and Libels Robert Murat

Just look at the hounder lynch mob getting up a head of steam:

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I agree Sweetex. I am sure Murat will be keen to prove he has nothing to do with it and will cooperate fully.

Just thinking, if you were looking for somewhere to hide something, then somewhere that has already been given the all clear would be a good place.

'Co-operate fully'? What, he is supposed to turn a blind eye to a nutter trespassing on his property, and terrifying his elderly mother, smearing him all over again in the media - he is supposed to 'co-operate fully'?

FFS! What, is he supposed to just let his property to be dug up all over again because of some con-man who has now scuttled back to South Africa?

I hope he takes Birch and those involved with this scam to the cleaners - and lays criminal charges against them.

lily wrote:This is shocking. So much in fact, that I am rendered speechless.

It's absolutely disgusting, Lily - and so are those who are enjoying this feeding frenzy, indeed, trying to fan the flames to suit their own ends.

Sick, vile, ghouls - what can you say about them. They're like human vultures.

You welcome bb1.

Well I think this is a "story badly told" as they say.

But three things I would like to add to the comments.

How on earth does this Birch come to the conclusion that the anomaly in the ground density is definitely a body, let alone the body of Madeleine McCann? It could be a section under the new drive where they dumped a pile of rubbish (maybe the workers put a pile of vegetation and rubble they had removed in there which has slipped or maybe a drain has collapsed). How come he knows its a body? In Algarve Resident it is claimed the expert Birch brought in only claims "something" noticed 60cm down. So how is Birch so sure?

Secondly, there is a new driveway but it clearly leads to another entrance at the back of the property. Maybe in the dark he never spotted that.

And third, what kind of publicity-seeking freak is he? He claims to have given his information to the PJ and to SY so what is it doing in the press?

Oh and I agree with almost everything else said about this here. This really stinks of some kind of diversionary tactic, it makes absolutely no sense as it would mean the dogs were so wrong, the PJ so incompetent, the McCanns geniuses at breaking and entering and so much more that is simply crazy.

Oh and of course the whole theory rests on sedatives as we would expect. The guard dogs Murat owns didn't bark when these intruders led by Birch illegally entered the property because somebody gave them Calpol.

I've just had another thought. Did Birch get it completely wrong? If he was using the files as his reference then no wonder the dogs didn't bark. He probably went next door, because I am sure I remember reading that the PJ couldn't even get the map right with his house on it. So who lives next door?

hardlinemarxist ‏@mccannexposure
Has #mccann remains been found?

No. Do try to keep up, dear.

The whole story is a nonsense, Greenink. It will be interesting to see what happens next.

And look at ZoeRothely's reply:

Rothley Pillowcase ‏@RothleyPillow
@mccannexposure Not yet but if she hasn't been eaten by a passing dingo who was on holiday from Oz at the time we lie in hope #mccann

Disgusting, filthy ghoul, taking delight in 'hoping' Madeleine is buried under Murat's new driveway.

Oh God, this garbage is on SKy now:

http://news.sky.com/story/956732/police-probe-madeleine-grave-theory

Police Probe Madeleine 'Grave' Theory

A self-styled investigator has sent police radar scans he says show a burial site in the Portuguese resort where she disappeared.

By Martin Brunt, crime correspondent
British detectives are examining an extraordinary claim that Madeleine McCann's body is buried near the holiday apartment from where she vanished.

A self-styled investigator has sent police ground radar scans he claims show a burial site.

Stephen Birch says he took the scans last week in Praia da Luz, the Portuguese holiday resort where Madeleine disappeared five years ago.

He passed them to Scotland Yard detectives who are carrying out an investigative review of the case.

They have asked him for more information to help them interpret the scan results and the "raw data" the machine collected.

He has also sent the material to Portuguese police who abandoned their search for Madeleine 15 months after she disappeared.

Mr Birch, a commercial property developer in South Africa, admits he is "obsessed" with the Madeleine mystery.

He claims to have spent £40,000 on buying the ground-penetrating scanner and being trained in its use.

He said: "All I want to do is solve the mystery and bring closure to Madeleine's family. I am convinced she lies where I have scanned.

"I've had the scans analysed and they show digging, a void and what could be human bones."

Scotland Yard said it would always consider any new potential evidence and pass it on to the Portuguese authorities.

Earlier this year the detective in charge of the review said he believed there was a chance Madeleine was still alive.

She was nearly four when she disappeared without trace from the apartment in May 2007.
Despite dozens of potential sightings around the world no credible evidence has emerged to indicate whether she is alive or dead.

Her parents Kate and Gerry McCann believe she is still alive and would not comment on Mr Birch's claims.

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I don't actually believe rather a lot of that. No direct quotes, no Sources - just yet more hot air and stirring.

Yes, it is just hot air - notice whose name is totally missing from the story? I supposed that is because Sky had to part with a large sum of money last time it smeared Murat.

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ShuBob Today

No worries. The more people who see the article the better.

I believe what this SA businessman is effectively saying is that the body was buried there recently. I wonder why he didn't start digging for the body while he was there or would he have been committing a separate offense to add to his trespassing?

Unbelievable. I know, let's accuse her of hiding Madeleine's remains in HER garden, tell the Sun all about it, then start digging on HER property and see how much she likes it.

For how long was he in Prai da Luz, and what tipped him off to this idea of precisely where to look? And perhaps more to the point, how did he know that Jenny Murat wouldn't be there, unless he had been hanging around for weeks and just hoping that the house would be empty at night FOUR TIMES.
I cannot begin to think of how outraged I would be if someone did this to me.

As for why? Publicity for a new Business Venture I should think.

As for why? Publicity for a new Business Venture I should think.

He wouldn't be the first, would he?

I am interested in which scanner he used, and how he got it through Customs, assuming he flew from SA to Portugal. What reason did he give, I wonder, for lugging this equipment all the way from SA? "Just gonna prove some Brits buried their daughter under a concrete path. Going to trespass, frighten the owner's frail mother out of her wits? Give an interview to a local toe rag and then beat a hasty, very hasty retreat back to SA"? I have looked at various makes and even the smallest is a good size and they are heavy. This reminds me of brown and her metal detecting thingy - I could never see her getting that through any customs/security gate. Also, as a friend pointed out, if he is a genuine developer (is he?) then most developers invest in one of these machines as they are exceptionally useful; often for checking out that new land is not full of discarded bombs etc as in the Middle East; in which case he has not just forked out £40,000 as he claims but his firm would probably already have one. And no interview with a UK paper? After all, that would be quite a scoop and publicity for his 'firm'. Stinks to high heaven. LL

ETA I know he could have passed it as hold luggage but even the slowest witted official would surely question the reason for transporting it - I assume you can hire such equipment in Portugal????

I read at CDM, that birch told that his first goal was money, later he was touched by this case.

about money, according birch: yes, touched by this case: not convinced.

Lamplighter wrote:I am interested in which scanner he used, and how he got it through Customs, assuming he flew from SA to Portugal. What reason did he give, I wonder, for lugging this equipment all the way from SA? "Just gonna prove some Brits buried their daughter under a concrete path. Going to trespass, frighten the owner's frail mother out of her wits? Give an interview to a local toe rag and then beat a hasty, very hasty retreat back to SA"? I have looked at various makes and even the smallest is a good size and they are heavy. This reminds me of brown and her metal detecting thingy - I could never see her getting that through any customs/security gate. Also, as a friend pointed out, if he is a genuine developer (is he?) then most developers invest in one of these machines as they are exceptionally useful; often for checking out that new land is not full of discarded bombs etc as in the Middle East; in which case he has not just forked out £40,000 as he claims but his firm would probably already have one. And no interview with a UK paper? After all, that would be quite a scoop and publicity for his 'firm'. Stinks to high heaven. LL

ETA I know he could have passed it as hold luggage but even the slowest witted official would surely question the reason for transporting it - I assume you can hire such equipment in Portugal????

The point you make about the scanner is excellent.

Relating it to a previous post here,

bb1 wrote:Is this the 'Stephen Birch'?

http://za.linkedin.com/pub/stephen-birch/11/6ab/701

Stephen Birch
Owner, Birch Organisation
Cape Town Area, South Africa Real Estate

Developer of medium to large industrial & commercial developments.Extensive experience in remediation & rehabilitation of contaminated ground.Assisted international group MAN Truck & Bus in the development of three facilities.Goal is to build a triple nett property fund worth in excess of one billion rand.

Specialties
Able to undertake large turnkey projects managing many disciplines of engineering.Ring-fencing risk and making projects viable.

suggests his company in SA would need to own something of this kind, or he would not be able to deal with contaminated ground, surely.

Perhaps he bought a version in Europe while here rather than carry something through customs though. Maybe its now being shipped back to SA for future work in land remdiation?

As you say, something really does not add up about this story.

birch: another who wants fame at the expenses of innocents,

using dirty lies, smears, defamation, invaded private property.

Thanks GI. I understand that there is still much land in SA that is of danger to the community, mainly from the war when apartheid was defeated. And I would assume his firm would operate outside SA, so such equipment would be most necessary. I was trying to find the cost of buying one of these machines, no luck so far. LL

"I've had the scans analysed and they show digging, a void and what could be human bones."

From the Q&A section of a firm called GSSI which provides GPR equipment:

I saw something like this in the movie Jurassic Park and on TV shows like Crossing Jordan. Can GPR really show the skeleton?

No. That is a Hollywood adaptation of the technique. A grave will look like a large, upside-down “U” on the profile view and a rectangular shape in 3D planview.

Lamplighter wrote:Thanks GI. I understand that there is still much land in SA that is of danger to the community, mainly from the war when apartheid was defeated. And I would assume his firm would operate outside SA, so such equipment would be most necessary. I was trying to find the cost of buying one of these machines, no luck so far. LL

Second hand (I think) set up for sale here at 25,000 CA dollars so 40,000 new is perfectly feasible.

http://gpex.ca/smf/index.php?topic=1227.0

Seems really cheap ones go for about $10,000 (US) and up from there.

http://forum.detectation.com/viewtopic.php?p=4016

Apparently this South African spent 15 days up to and including 28th June in Portugal with his team of four plus "investigators". And they claim that they spent their time in PDL breaking the law by entering the garden of Murat (or possibly the next door neighbour if he followed the files as he claims to have done) late at night four times.

AND the Expresso newspaper videos an EXLUSIVE interview with this "investigative" genius who has achieved what the PJ couldn't do and what SY couldn't do and found missing Madeleine McCann. It looks as if they have got the scoop of the year in Portugal and probably the UK.

AND then what?

Oh, they sit on this exclusive video of the "investigator" telling the good news before fleeing the country for a full seven days till another paper (CdM) has published a four-page spread on the story.

What the hell?

What am I missing here? Nothing seems to be making sense at all.

Try it from another direction, Greenink - rather like the cliche, cui bono?

And look at who the targets are...

Why, the targets are Robert Murat and the McCanns, the very people Amaral wrongly targeted to begin with. And look at who came out of hiding yesterday to lounge on Dear Julia's sofa yet again - none other than the defective detective in person!

Who has Birch been praising to the skies in interviews? What a coincidence! It's Amaral again!

IMO, I suspect that this attention-seeking ghoul has been used by Team Gonc in a last desperate bid to wreck Porto PJ's and the Yard's work.

It's also payback, for Robert Murat revealing that Amaral had threatened him, too - Think you're safe now, do you? Look, I can still make your life a misery.

Now, you are correct, the yarn this Birch person has spun makes no sense - BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO.

All that's needed is to raise the temperature, set off the feverish speculation, and the hatefest yet again.

Look at the manure that has been spread everywhere because of this. 24 Horas have now proved why they were nicknamed 24 whores in 2007 by posting a piece that accuses Murat.

Look at the frenzy of ghoulish excitement on the hate sites - some of them are just about wetting their pants with delight at this garbage.

It doesn't have to make sense, Greenink, the Big Lie is ALWAYS aimed at people too stupid to grasp why it is a lie.

Well no other explanation seems to be forthcoming. There does seem to be something very odd about the delays and coincidences in this very bizarre story.

I presume there is no actual copy of the original CdM story anywhere.

One little snippet which can be read easily on the video on TVI24 is interesting.

Pode ser um osso humano
Jose Crispim, professor investigador de Geologia, 62 anos, confirmou ao CM que a convicao de Stephen Birch pode estar correcta: "O que foi detectado pode evidentemente ser um osso humano mas tambem se pode confundir com um pau ou um ferro".

Googled to be

It may be a human bone
Jose Crispin, research professor of Geology, 62, confirmed to the CM that the conviction of Stephen Birch may be correct: "What was clearly detected can be a human bone but also to be confused with a stick or an iron."

I presume there is no actual copy of the original CdM story anywhere.

No, all we have is Carolina/Montclair's summary of the four-page spread:

Re: South African researcher tells the CM what he found when he sought to know what happened to Maddie. Explosive revelations, to read in the CM
Carolina Yesterday at 12:54 pm

I have the CdM paper and there is a 4 page spread about this whole. This guy Birch is a real estate developer and is fascinated with the Maddie case. He believes that once the body is found it will be possible to solve the case. He also states that he believes that Maddie died accidentally that night and was buried at Murat's house because it had easy access. He is also convinced that Murat and his family are not involved. He also praised Gonçalo Amaral, considering him an honest and competent person and a policeman with many years of experience.

This guy staked out Murat's house 24 hours a day and when Murat left the house he went in with his collaborators 4 times. He does not believe that the PJ and the British police searched the grounds wells enough although this was done twice. Gonçalo Amaral responds that the searches carried out by the PJ were exhaustive and the whole area was looked at.

That is more or less what was said in the article.

A stick, or a bit of metal in the garden? Oh, better send for the earthmovers ASAP!

The whole thing is ridiculous.

when Murat left the house he went in with his collaborators 4 times

As has been pointed out

MURAT DOESN'T LIVE THERE NOW

So, who has this lunatic been stalking?

How did this Birch bloke know that the house would be empty for four nights during the brief fifteen days he was there? Thirteen days if you allow for travelling from Lisbon?
And where were the guard dogs? You don't put guard dogs in Pet Kennels when you go away from home.
Nope. It's not working. And the Nasties aren't going to believe that Eddie got it wrong, which he must have done, whichever way you look at it, either in The Car or in The Garden.

Very simple, basic question, Sabot.

Why did this character decide to obsess on one particular spot in what he alleges is Robert Murat's garden?

I have seen no explanation whatsoever for that. Even CSI Patsy and Pete were just randomly sticking trowels into 'mounds' in the ghoulish hope of finding bones.

This garbage is in the UK press now.


I'm not repeating it, it's just the same garbage, with the usual Chinese Whispers going on.

Sample:

According to reports, Scotland Yard have asked him for further information to help them interpret the scan results.
Mr Birch, who has also sent the findings to Portuguese police, has admitted being 'obsessed' with the McCann case and said that he spent £40,000 on buying the scanner and learning how to use it.


Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/news/904404-madeleine-mccann-in-portugal-grave-theory-being-examined-by-police#ixzz1zqLC91lz

As we all know 'according to reports' means, we read it in Cart of Manure via googlespeak, and is about as genuine as the horoscope column.