Re: Pretendy 'Investigator' Stalks and Libels Robert Murat

**Sabot** Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:59 pm

This is a very badly thought out plan, and is going to rebound horribly. But I can't help wondering who is using CarlyMichell this time. This is not a good idea as she is too stupid to realise what they are doing.

**Sabot** Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:03 pm

Aha! I was right. This is another attempt to smear The McCanns.

**bb1** Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:04 pm

Whole thing is a put-up job by Team Gonc, and no doubt the forkers were given their script in one of their fb hidey-holes.

They have, however, made one or two blunders.

Here's a hint about one of them:

Pretendy 'Investigator' Stalks and Libels Robert Murat - Page 2 Eddie2

Pretendy 'Investigator' Stalks and Libels Robert Murat - Page 2 Eddie2

**bb1** Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:07 pm

Sabot wrote:
Aha! I was right. This is another attempt to smear The McCanns.

That's exactly what it is, Sabot - and one that is, IMO, likely to backfire very badly.

Portugal could do with it's own version of Leveson, to stop them spreading manure like this.

**Pedro Silva** Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:45 pm

This birch is another imbecile who wants to fame at the expenses of innocents, Shame on you birch, the police should investigate this birch, should also investigate the reason or motive behind his despicable behaviour, a thought came into my mind: could it be possible that this birch is being paid by someone to spread such despicable lies? I think Murat should sue this birch. The McCanns should also sue him. If it was me, that´s what I would do.

**Pedro Silva** Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:50 pm

hey birch, know this: the only thing amaral is honest and competent, is in lies, smears,defamation, threats, putting his daughter´s life in danger, while driving a car drunk in high speed, also about his despicable behaviour in the cirpriano case. Is this the kind of person you birch thinks that is competent and honest? Only a sick barsteward like you birch thinks or writes such deluded fantasies.

birch:
yernuts

birch:

**bb1** Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:55 pm

was buried at Murat's house because it had easy access.

ORLY? No gates, walls, undergrowth, dogs or people in residence?

EPIC FAIL

could it be possible that this birch is being paid by someone to spread such despicable lies

Oh, I think it is entirely possible, Pedro, and I think we can all work out who that 'someone' is likely to be.

This is so woeful, even the forkers and hounders can see it is full of holes.

And note to whoever concocted this rubbish:

He also praised Gonçalo Amaral, considering him an honest and competent person and a policeman with many years of experience.

That is what is known as 'over-egging the omelette'. As the entire population of Portugal knows Amaral is a criminal, convicted LIAR with yet more charges heading his way, that rather gives A Big Clue as to the source of this manure.

Who wrote it? Cristovao? rofl

EPIC FAIL

**Pedro Silva** Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:58 pm

about:

"could it be possible that this birch is being paid by someone to spread such despicable lies

Oh, I think it is entirely possible, I think we can all work out who that 'someone' is likely to be."

Yes bb1, someone from insane / deluded team gonc.

**bb1** Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:03 pm

Whoever invented this manure appears to have forgotten that the PJ tore Murat's garden apart, Pedro.

They also appear to have forgotten;

http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic35.html

CANINE SEARCH OF MR MURAT'S PROPERTY.

The property was subjected to a search for human remains or blood stained articles. The outside of property was stripped of vegetation and after the ground being probed was searched by the EVRD dog. The inside of the property was then searched by the dog. There were no alert indications and no human remains were located.

I hope Robert Murat is with his lawyer right this minute, and is also bringing CRIMINAL charges against CdM and this Birch chancer.

**Pedro Silva** Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:05 pm

Oporto PJ team, gives no credibilty about birch´s informations.

**bb1** Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:08 pm

Is this the 'Stephen Birch'?

http://za.linkedin.com/pub/stephen-birch/11/6ab/701

Stephen Birch
Owner, Birch Organisation
Cape Town Area, South Africa Real Estate

Developer of medium to large industrial & commercial developments.Extensive experience in remediation & rehabilitation of contaminated ground.Assisted international group MAN Truck & Bus in the development of three facilities.Goal is to build a triple nett property fund worth in excess of one billion rand.

Specialties
Able to undertake large turnkey projects managing many disciplines of engineering.Ring-fencing risk and making projects viable.

**bb1** Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:10 pm

Hideho's latest:

VIDEO - Incredible PROOF that CADAVER dogs DO NOT alert to ROTTING MEAT (Despite McCann's Claim)
HiDeHo Today at 4:11 am

Well, according to CdM, they don't even 'alert' to cadavers in gardens....

Mind you, they do alert to kitchen bins and garage walls.

**bb1** Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:13 pm

Desperate Hounder spin:

Re: Investigator ensures that Maddie's body in the backyard of Murat
Châtelaine Today
I don't know what to think of this story, also because I haven't seen one single coherent translation anywhere yet. But in theory, burying a corpse in a place, which has already extensively been searched twice, would be quite clever

Oh, I see.....so, AFTER Murat's garden had been dug up and AFTER his garden had been gone through by the wonderwoofs, the Evil McCanns retrieved their daughter's remains from the acid bath/yew tree/Atlantic/volcano and put it in Murat's garden.

Don't be so bl**dy stupid.

**bb1** Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:16 pm

Hounders are in agreement:

Exactly, what are the chances of getting a second search warrant? Could also be that attempts to place it somewhere else failed so in desperation it was brought back. Certainly could be feasible.

No it couldn't, idiot.

This is AFTER the dogs have searched, remember? Just before Gonc took it into his head to make the McCanns arguidos, just like he already was.

Whoever dreamed up this one really didn't think it through, did they? I do hope the last of the Unca Am fund wasn't spent on this dross.

**bb1** Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:34 pm

Any of the forkers and hounders showing any sign of explaining how A Bad Man managed to bury Madeleine's body in Murat's garden AFTER it had been landscaped by the PJ, and AFTER the wonderwoofs had been over it -

WITHOUT BEING SEEN BY MURAT OR HIS MOTHER?

After all, it would have taken some time - Gonc himself found the soil in the area so hard, he had to throw the family pet in a rubbish bin.

The ground is hard here. it's not easy to dig a hole and I hardly have the time for it. I decide to drop his remains into a bin

Whoever concocted this dross really ought to hand their payment back to - whoever hired them.

**Sabot** Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:36 pm

This theory has got the lot. It explains why Eddie didn't alert. Where The McCanns hid the body. Why the body has never been found. And proves that Murat was involved because they couldn't have done it without him knowing.
This is definitely the work of Goncalo Amaral. Now, all we need him to do is explain how The McCanns managed this with The PJ and The Media in tow.

**bb1** Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:40 pm

It explains why Eddie didn't alert. Where The McCanns hid the body.

I don't think it does actually, Sabot - we appear to have a rather large credibility gap. The body is supposed to have been in an acid bath/the Atlantic/a yew tree/volcano all this time, so it cannot suddenly materialize in Murat's garden AFTER the PJ and Eddiewoof have given it the All Clear.

Gonc must have dreamed this up when he was tired and emotional.

**bb1** Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:44 pm

How STUPID are these people - no, no need to answer.

Re: Investigator ensures that Maddie's body in the backyard of Murat
uppatoffee Today

david_uk wrote:
He’s opening himself up for a good carterrucking surely?! You cant suggest that she might be dead! There is no evidence to support this! Preposterous! And very unhelpful!

This article appeared in the Portuguese press therefore would CR have any legal jurisdiction over what is printed there? Presumably libel laws in Portugal are a bit different to those in England?

Why, pray tell, would Carter Ruck care if Team Gonc's favorite Portuguese tabloid has demonstrated yet again why it is only fit for use as toilet paper?

The whole thing is very obvious garbage.

Robert Murat, on the other hand, would be well within his rights to bring CRIMINAL charges, as well as civil, against CdM and anyone else involved in this exercise in barrel-scraping.

**Pedro Silva** Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:45 pm

I received this through google alert:

http://www.tvi24.iol.pt/aa---videos---sociedade/maddie-murat-algarve-sul-africano-tvi24/1359663-5795.html

translation:

Businessman says he knows where is buried the girl disappeared in Praia da Luz, despite authorities have removed all suspicions.

during two weeks, the house of murat, when Maddie disappeared, was under surveillance day and night, by a team led by an entrepreneur from real estate,

according Correio da Manhã, this south-african man travelled to Praia da Luz, to search for the body of the child, installed in the Ocean Club to better control the entrances and departures,

waited for the moment Murat´s villa was empty, invaded private property, for at least four times,

always during dawn, beyond the gate and walls, walked freely with two employees and a geo-radar, the device allows to detect changes and objects in the sub-soil,

accused positive or something is buried in the backyard 60 cm deep,

in the interview at the newspaper, the entrepreneur assures deeply convinced that is the body, but several

specialists contacted by tvi, assures that in a 1st stage, the device cannot allow conclusions only
deductions, which what could look a human bone could be a stick, iron or any other object.

With fear of being accused with the crime of house breach, the entrepreneur only contacted PJ and Scotland Yard, after returned to South-Africa.

TVI knows that the investigation team of Oporto reviewing the process, gives no credibility to these informations, also because PJ have conducted exhaustive searches and excavations in the ground

surrounding the house of murat, also with a geo-radar and with expertise technicians related with the University of Aveiro and nothing was found.

Through his lawyer, Robert asks to be left in peace, but, if true, the south-african which entered without consent of the owner of the house,

murat´s mother of 80, is now afraid of being alone in the house.

**Sabot** Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:47 pm

bb1 wrote:It explains why Eddie didn't alert. Where The McCanns hid the body.

I don't think it does actually, Sabot - we appear to have a rather large credibility gap. The body is supposed to have been in an acid bath/the Atlantic/a yew tree/volcano all this time, so it cannot suddenly materialize in Murat's garden AFTER the PJ and Eddiewoof have given it the All Clear.

Gonc must have dreamed this up when he was tired and emotional.

They took the body out of the freezer that Murat lent them while The PJ searched his garden. Murat probably dug the hole for them because he must have a spade.

**bb1** Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:49 pm

Pedro, you are a star, thank you so much!

There's a lot in there, but this will do for starters:

With fear of being accused with the crime of house breach, the entrepreneur only contacted PJ and Scotland Yard, after returned to South-Africa.

Cowardly scumbag, criminal. mad

Through his lawyer, Robert asks to be left in peace, but, if true, the south-african which entered without consent of the owner of the house, murat´s mother of 80, is now afraid of being alone in the house.

What a piece of merde this is - I really, really hope Murat brings CRIMINAL charges against CdM - and anyone else involved in this disgusting episode.

ETA, I have to ask -

DID TEAM GONC PUT THIS 'BIRCH' CREATURE UP TO THIS? BECAUSE IT STINKS OF THEIR DIRTY TRICKS

**Pedro Silva** Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:50 pm

You welcome bb1, you´re right.

**bb1** Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:53 pm

Pedro Silva wrote:I received this through google alert:

http://www.tvi24.iol.pt/aa---videos---sociedade/maddie-murat-algarve-sul-africano-tvi24/1359663-5795.html

translation:

Businessman says he knows where is buried the girl disappeared in Praia da Luz, despite authorities have removed all suspicions.

during two weeks, the house of murat, when Maddie disappeared, was under surveillance day and night, by a team led by an entrepreneur from real estate,

according Correio da Manhã, this south-african man travelled to Praia da Luz, to search for the body of the child, installed in the Ocean Club to better control the entrances and departures,

waited for the moment Murat´s villa was empty, invaded private property, for at least four times,

always during dawn, beyond the gate and walls, walked freely with two employees and a geo-radar, the device allows to detect changes and objects in the sub-soil,

accused positive or something is buried in the backyard 60 cm deep,

in the interview at the newspaper, the entrepreneur assures deeply convinced that is the body, but several

specialists contacted by tvi, assures that in a 1st stage, the device cannot allow conclusions only
deductions, which what could look a human bone could be a stick, iron or any other object.

With fear of being accused with the crime of house breach, the entrepreneur only contacted PJ and Scotland Yard, after returned to South-Africa.

TVI knows that the investigation team of Oporto reviewing the process, gives no credibility to these informations, also because PJ have conducted exhaustive searches and excavations in the ground

surrounding the house of murat, also with a geo-radar and with expertise technicians related with the University of Aveiro and nothing was found.

Through his lawyer, Robert asks to be left in peace, but, if true, the south-african which entered without consent of the owner of the house, murat´s mother of 80, is now afraid of being alone in the house.

I hope Robert Murat presses charges and takes CdM to the cleaners.

**Maggs** Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:07 pm

Unless I've missed it, it doesn't say in the article when this search was done.

On the video, why is it all filmed just in one place, in the garden?
Like Tony said, that doesn't look like Murats garden.

Levy's had a new video camera, IMO!

**bb1** Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:14 pm

Yup. And because it has backfired badly, with no-one taking it seriously apart from a handful of haters who are too thick to count, Team Gonc stalwart Claudia has now been wheeled onto MM to post a scornful smiley:

Re: South African researcher tells the CM what he found when he sought to know what happened to Maddie. Explosive revelations, to read in the CM
Claudia79 Today

Pretendy 'Investigator' Stalks and Libels Robert Murat - Page 2 680495

Pretendy 'Investigator' Stalks and Libels Robert Murat - Page 2 680495

Interesting to see who was desperate to spread the ghoulery, and who toed the Gonc Party Line until it became obvious it was a massive own goal, though. Pcorneater

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