Amaral denies CdM 'story'

You get a signal if an anomaly is detected but it needs a professional to tell you if it is worth digging for.

I am none too sure this chancer was even at the right house, Tony - he may well have been trespassing on a totally different property.

This is Bushmeat and Pete all over again, except this attention-seeking ghoul has been aided and abetted by CdM.

crazytony wrote:

greenink211 wrote:On the video on the Expresso site at 04.20 onwards he says in English that this "something" is buried between 400 and 650 millimetres below ground level. (15.75 inches to 25.6 inches).

I know he says he is a developer but does actually know how to read the ground radar data?
I have used one of the machines and I am telling you the anomaly is more than two feet.

So where did they hire The Digger? You don't dig Five feet in a hurry.

Sabot, I don't even think that that is Mrs Murat's property which is supposedly being ground-scanned or whatever in that video.

I cannot get the video to marry with the reality:

http://regretsandramblings.com/2012/03/22/murats-home/

And there is absolutely no way at least two intruders went scrunching about on gravel FOUR TIMES without the enormous guard dogs hearing the trespassers.

IMO, the whole thing is a crock of sh*t.

Why this attempt to disrupt the work of Porto PJ and Scotland Yard has been launched right now is another matter, and one for the police.

I really do think the Portuguese authorities have to step in and stop this nonsense. And TELL CdM to print an apology on their front page.

Sabot wrote:

crazytony wrote:

greenink211 wrote:On the video on the Expresso site at 04.20 onwards he says in English that this "something" is buried between 400 and 650 millimetres below ground level. (15.75 inches to 25.6 inches).

I know he says he is a developer but does actually know how to read the ground radar data?
I have used one of the machines and I am telling you the anomaly is more than two feet.

So where did they hire The Digger? You don't dig Five feet in a hurry.

There was no digging. It is just a radar image of the subsoil. And it was only a maximum of 2 feet not five feet.

But you do raise an interesting question. If Pat Brown went digging for the actual body why did this fellow simply flee the country and not dig himself?

He seemed afraid of getting arrested for trespass but was willing to go back to Portugal if a body was found. Well why didn't he dig and find it then?

Because his part of the deal was to lurk around in the dark, in possibly the wrong garden, smear Murat and the McCanns all over again, while praising Amaral, and then get out of the way before this garbage was released to the media?

Bear in mind, Expresso interviewed him at Lisbon airport, so this story has been on hold for a good few days.

It's been organised from the start, IMO. By whom, exactly, and with what motives, exactly, we can only guess at.

The Portuguese authorities really have to get to the bottom of this - and do something about their irresponsible press. This is worse than anything that has come up at Leveson.

Which part of the screen are you looking at G.I.?

crazytony wrote:Which part of the screen are you looking at G.I.?

Hope you can make something of this, Tony, I don't know what I am looking at.

I am giving myself eyestrain trying to make the garden in the video match Murat's property - and failing.

Greenink, I meant where did The McCanns hire a Digger if they buried her five feet down in Murat's garden. Although I appreciate that there is some dispute over the depth. But two feet would have been no problem for Mrs. Murat's Guard Dogs. Or Eddie, I would have thought.
It sounds to me as though Translation has turned 60 inches into 60 centimetres as Portugal doesn't have inches.

bb1 wrote:

crazytony wrote:Which part of the screen are you looking at G.I.?

Hope you can make something of this, Tony, I don't know what I am looking at.

I am giving myself eyestrain trying to make the garden in the video match Murat's property - and failing.

I will dissect the whole video

The original is definitely centimetres, Sabot.

Em declarações ao "Correio da Manhã" assegurou ter detectado vestígios a 60 cm de profundidade

I wonder how much this is going to cost Birch and CdM in damages to the Murat family?

Libel it most assuredly is, as Birch and CdM are claiming that Madeleine McCann's body was buried on Murat's property, near the house, in a shallow grave.

Because it would have been noticed by the residents, and their dogs, that the ground had been dug up, and smelled pretty bad.

Birch and CdM are accusing Murat all over again. As the UK press no doubt can see, which is why they are not telling readers where this discovery has supposedly been made.

Sabot wrote:
Greenink, I meant where did The McCanns hire a Digger if they buried her five feet down in Murat's garden. Although I appreciate that there is some dispute over the depth. But two feet would have been no problem for Mrs. Murat's Guard Dogs. Or Eddie, I would have thought.
It sounds to me as though Translation has turned 60 inches into 60 centimetres as Portugal doesn't have inches.

No, Birch himself says clearly on the video "between 400mm (15 inches) and 650mm (25 inches). The 60 inches reference wherever that is, is the one that is completely wrong.

So no digger needed. But as I agreed above 2 big dogs and a pebbly path might have been a bit messed up with a body at that depth.

The whole ridiculous story is bogus, isn't it? It is going to be interesting to find out who is behind it.....

crazytony wrote:Which part of the screen are you looking at G.I.?

Not sure what you mean?

You know, it has to be Robert Murat who is the target of this, there's no-one else it could be.

He, his mum and his dogs would have noticed if someone had dug a shallow grave on their premises, near to their house = he is the target of this garbage.

No, Birch himself says clearly on the video "between 400mm (15 inches) and 650mm (25 inches). The 60 inches reference wherever that is, is the one that is completely wrong.

Bear in mind that the alleged '60 cm' is WITH the gravel. When this supposed 'burial' took place, it would be even shallower.

But Tony, who seems to know what he is talking about, says that the Scan shows much deeper.
This also seems to be near The Swimming Pool so could be some sort of Drain which would be buried more than two feet down.

I don't believe it is the Murat property

Sabot, I don't think that is even Murat's property. This story has more holes in it than a Swiss cheese, and IMO has been concocted purely to sh*t-stir.

Look at the way the forkers are now issuing demands like:

Re: Investigator ensures that Maddie's body in the backyard of Murat
Gillyspot Today
You would think innocent people whose daughter had been abducted would be insisting on it being fully investigated (whatever it is) not simply saying we have no comment on it.

Don't they want closure & Madeleine found?

Nasty, sick, ghouls.

I hope the Portuguese police find out who is really at the back of this garbage. I am sure we all have one or two ideas who planned and planted this sh*t.

Tony, you know what it DOES look like - that abandoned villa Amaral was photographed at.

I will try to find some pix for comparison, but I agree, it doesn't look like Murat's property.

Tony, you know what it DOES look like - that abandoned villa Amaral was photographed at.

I will try to find some pix for comparison, but I agree, it doesn't look like Murat's property.

That is what I also wondered. Looking forward to seeing what you find Bonny.

crazytony wrote:

I don't believe it is the Murat property

It's not The Front Gate, and it doesn't look like the new Back Gate either. There aren't any trees overhanging either Gate.

Here's one, from the Express, at:

http://justice4mccannfam.5forum.biz/t3128p30-madeleine-mccann-did-the-camera-hold-vital-clue

Sabot wrote:

crazytony wrote:

I don't believe it is the Murat property

It's not The Front Gate, and it doesn't look like the new Back Gate either. There aren't any trees overhanging either Gate.

I am 99% certain it is the back gate of Murats property. The overhanging trees could be directly above the camera man.

And the door could be to the pumphouse which would be under the terrace round the pool, if the pool is above the level of the rest of the garden which it probably is on that very steep road.