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Post  bb1 Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:08 pm

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/met-chief-calls-for-decision-on-funding-of-madeleine-mccann-review-8078769.html

Met chief calls for decision on funding of Madeleine McCann review


Scotland Yard is to ask Prime Minister David Cameron if he wants to continue funding an inquiry into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

Met Commissioner Bernard Hogan-Howe is seeking a new commitment from the Government on financing the “investigative review” of the McCann case.

The force launched the new inquiry 15 months ago after Mr Cameron responded to a plea from Madeleine’s parents Kate, 43, and Gerry McCann, 42. Detectives are examining all the evidence from the Portuguese inquiry into the child’s disappearance from her parents’ holiday flat in Praia da Luz in Portugal in 2007.

The girl, who was three at the time, vanished as her parents were having dinner with friends nearby.

Police say that so far the Government has provided an open cheque to fund the review, which has included the cost of translating police documents and witness statements as well as the cost of officers travelling to Portugal and Spain.

A team of 28 homicide detectives and seven civilian staff are engaged in the full-time review and so far it is thought the inquiry has cost about £2.5 million.

Mr Hogan-Howe said he would be seeking a decision from the Government in the next few months over how long they wished to fund the investigation. He said police were still sifting through a huge cache of documents. However, the Portuguese authorities are still refusing to re-open the inquiry.

He said: “We are still reviewing a lot of material. It is a significant amount of money and we have quite a lot of officers tied up in this.

“There will be a point at which we and the Government will want to make a decision about what the likely outcome is.

“The Prime Minister agreed to fund this. We have not had any pressure to say you must stop spending more than x amount, we have received a lot of support. But by Christmas I would want a very clear view of what work is outstanding and what timeline there is for that.”

Mr Hogan-Howe’s comments are the first to suggest that there may be a limit on how long police spend on the case. Previously he has said there was no limit on the amount of time and manpower for the inquiry.

The official Portuguese inquiry was formally shelved in July 2008 but the Met opened a review of the case, Operation Grange, in May last year.

By April this year they had managed to look at a quarter of some 40,000 pieces of information.

Hopes were raised this year when Det Chief Insp Andy Redwood, leading the review, said he believed Madeleine had been abducted by a stranger and could be alive.


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When money is being thrown away on AssAngel, then IMO there should be no question of the review not being fully funded.
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Post  bb1 Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:40 pm

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When they do stop the review which I think this is getting people prepped for, surely they have to justify the money they have spent so far by releasing a final report of what the review found, informations they looked at, translated documents etc.

2.5 million is an awful lot of tax payers money and we have a right to know what this money came up with until they stopped it


No, 'we' don't, actually. Thankfully, this is the UK, and the police are NOT in the habit of releasing confidential information to give armchair defectives and ghouls fresh meat.
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Post  bb1 Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:44 pm

And the sh*t-stirring begins:

Hopefully the Madeleine Foundation will submit a FOI request to find out how the money was spent.

Brilliant idea. Bennett hasn't wasted enough taxpayers' money with his meddling and vexatious demands, encourage him to waste some more.
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Post  Pedro Silva Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:50 pm

bb1, I agree with you: "Thankfully, this is the UK, and the police are NOT in the habit of releasing confidential information to give armchair defectives and ghouls fresh meat.."

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Post  Sabot Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:57 pm

HA! They've got a nerve. They have made this whole thing more difficult and more convoluted.
Personally, I'm not interested in what Portugal has got to say. Their corrupt Police Force cocked this up in the first place. The PJ generated a huge amount of useless paperwork which nevertheless has to be looked into.
And this Review could well prevent another such debacle. Lots of Brit families go abroad on holiday. And lots of Brit families have come to grief in Portugal alone, and without a thing being done about it. What price a very expensive British Passport?

The Review must continue, otherwise there was no point in the first place.

Mind you, The British Government could always issue a warning. Come to grief when you are abroad, and you are on your own.
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Post  Pedro Silva Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:12 pm

Sabot, your words are mine:

"Personally, I'm not interested in what Portugal has got to say. Their corrupt Police Force cocked this up in the first place. The PJ generated a huge amount of useless paperwork which nevertheless has to be looked into.
And this Review could well prevent another such debacle. Lots of Brit families go abroad on holiday. And lots of Brit families have come to grief in Portugal alone, and without a thing being done about it.

The Review must continue", until this child returns safe to her home.

money should be used in situations like this.
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Post  Sabot Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:20 pm

Pedro Silva wrote:Sabot, your words are mine:

"Personally, I'm not interested in what Portugal has got to say. Their corrupt Police Force cocked this up in the first place. The PJ generated a huge amount of useless paperwork which nevertheless has to be looked into.
And this Review could well prevent another such debacle. Lots of Brit families go abroad on holiday. And lots of Brit families have come to grief in Portugal alone, and without a thing being done about it.

The Review must continue", until this child returns safe to her home.

money should be used in situations like this.

And Portugal should look more closely at it's own missing children, Pedro. Unless they don't want to know.

This should not have been the responsibility of Britain in the first place. But it is now, and it must be seen to be done, no matter how much it costs.
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Post  bb1 Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:50 pm

Forker (the one who thinks 'have' is spelled 'off')

The witness statements and other police documents have already been translated Into English.....that's ridiculous, do they think we are stupid or what!

Thereby proving that she is indeed stupid, if she thinks the UK police are going to use the 'dodgy translations' versions of the police files.
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Post  Sabot Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:13 pm

bb1 wrote:Forker (the one who thinks 'have' is spelled 'off')

The witness statements and other police documents have already been translated Into English.....that's ridiculous, do they think we are stupid or what!

Thereby proving that she is indeed stupid, if she thinks the UK police are going to use the 'dodgy translations' versions of the police files.

Does she think that The UK Police will have dodgy Translations? Or does she think That The UK Police should have accepted any old garbage Translated by biased Portuguese Posters, even if they were correct, which we know they often weren't.
And why should it matter to her? This is a Proper Review and has to be seen as such.

However, if The UK Police feel inclined to release their Proper Translation, I will be delighted to watch that bunch of idiots tear them apart.
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Post  bb1 Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:19 pm

Here's another idiot:

I seem to remember Kate McCann saying the Fund had spent £100,000 having the files released by the Portugese translated into English......why didn't she make these available to SY at the outset?

D'uh. BECAUSE THEY ARE THE POLICE.

Now, the McCanns had their translation done professionally, and therefore accurately - UNLIKE MORAIS AND CO'S DODGY TRANSLATIONS - but notwithstanding, the police had to have their own translation done.

The sheer ignorance of haters never ceases to amaze me.
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Post  Sabot Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:23 pm

"Oh, Lookee here. Our Translations don't say that. They've putten in words that ours haven't got. And they changed the meaning of a sentence."
Presuming that they know what a Sentence is, let alone a paragraph.
"And Dear Joana, and Astro, and Innes all speak proper English, so it must be a Cover Up."

Needless to say that The Scotland Yard Translations will carry a Certificate from an Accredited Translator who has to pass a Board.
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Post  Sabot Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:26 pm

bb1 wrote:Here's another idiot:

I seem to remember Kate McCann saying the Fund had spent £100,000 having the files released by the Portugese translated into English......why didn't she make these available to SY at the outset?

D'uh. BECAUSE THEY ARE THE POLICE.

Now, the McCanns had their translation done professionally, and therefore accurately - UNLIKE MORAIS AND CO'S DODGY TRANSLATIONS - but notwithstanding, the police had to have their own translation done.

The sheer ignorance of haters never ceases to amaze me.

Oh Yes. And I can imagine what they would have had to say if Scotland Yard had used The McCann Translations.
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Post  Pedro Silva Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:35 pm

Sabot, I agree with you:

"And Portugal should look more closely at it's own missing children, Pedro. Unless they don't want to know.

This should not have been the responsibility of Britain in the first place. But it is now, and it must be seen to be done, no matter how much it costs.".
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Post  Pedro Silva Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:39 pm

Madeleine´s safe return is above all amount of money used, a child´s life has no price.
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Post  Pedro Silva Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:46 pm

instead of making wars, use that money to find all the missings, bring them all safe to their homes.
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Post  bb1 Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:48 pm

And how much taxpayers' money has Bennett alone wasted, between his fights with Butler, his endless arguments with Essex police, his attempts to interfere in a police matter, his vexatious demands of the Home Office?

Look at the money the haters' pin-up boy Assange is costing. I would have thought finding a missing child more worthy than either Bennett or Assange.
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Post  Pedro Silva Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:53 pm

bb1, you´re right, I agree with you:

"And how much taxpayers' money has Bennett alone wasted, between his fights with Butler, his endless arguments with Essex police, his attempts to interfere in a police matter, his vexatious demands of the Home Office?

Look at the money the haters' pin-up boy Assange is costing. I would have thought finding a missing child more worthy than either Bennett or Assange.."

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Post  Sabot Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:04 pm

Pedro Silva wrote:instead of making wars, use that money to find all the missings, bring them all safe to their homes.

The Scotland Yard Review might just motivate that, Pedro. Much as I want Madeleine found, there are other children missing in Portugal, not least Joana Cipriano. And quite possibly other children will go missing. And Portugal must be made to look at this.
Children go missing everywhere, but it's the efforts to find them that matter.
And the fact that The PJ have in the past done absolutely nothing about this, to the point of insisting that it doesn't happen.

There is no shame to any Country for the fact that children get abducted. But there is great shame when a Country does nothing about it beyond blaming the parents.
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Post  bb1 Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:42 pm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/9497581/Yard-chief-suggests-Madeleine-probe-may-be-wound-down.html

Yard chief suggests Madeleine probe may be wound down
Bernard Hogan-Howe, the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, has indicated that the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann may be wound down.

Scotland Yard is to ask David Cameron whether the Government will continue to fund the inquiry into the missing child, who was last seen in her parents' holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal, in 2007.
The Met opened a new inquiry, Operation Grange, 15 months ago at the request of Mr Cameron. The Government has provided an 'open cheque' into the review of the case. The inquiry has 28 homicide detectives and seven civilian staff working full-time and is thought to have cost £2.5m so far.
Mr Hogan-Howe is asking for a new commitment on financing the investigation, in comments that suggest there may be a limit on how long the police are willing to spend on the case. Previously he has said there is no limit to the time and manpower available to the probe.
He said the police are sifting through a "large cache" of documents. Portuguese police are refusing to reopen the inquiry.
Mr Hogan Howe said: "We are still reviewing a lot of material. It is a significant amount of money and we have quite a lot of officers tied up in this.
"There will be a point at which we and the Government will want to make a decision about what the likely outcome is.
"The Prime Minister agreed to fund this. We have not had any pressure to say you must stop spending more than x amount, we have received a lot of support. But by Christmas I would want a very clear view of what work is outstanding and what time line there is for that," the London Evening Standard quoted Mr Hogan-Howe as saying.
This year Det Chief Insp Redwood, who is leading the inquiry, said he believed Madeleine had been abducted by a stranger and could be alive
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Post  Sabot Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:03 pm


I can't find anything wrong with that, Bonny. They have already established that Madeleine was abducted and could be still alive. But if they have no leads to her whereabouts then there isn't much else they can do. Any leads were lost long ago. It's been five years, and she doesn't look the same anymore. But if they can establish just how she was taken out of Praia da Luz, then they will have accomplished something.
Someone must have seen her passing through, and I hope they got that. But she could be anywhere in The World now.
Something will happen one day, and I can only hope that it will be sooner.
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Post  bb1 Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:51 pm

Top Scotland Yard cop hints the hunt for Madeleine McCann may be wound down unless Government commit to funding it
Cameron requested Met investigation into Madeleine's disappearance
Police fear funding for 'Operation Grange' could be cut just 15 months after it was launched
By SAM ADAMS
PUBLISHED: 17:24, 24 August 2012 | UPDATED: 17:35, 24 August 2012
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The Metropolitan Police fears funding for its investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann could be cut.
Scotland Yard has asked David Cameron for a new commitment to financing the inquiry, which he requested 15 months ago, as the search for the missing youngster continues to draw a blank.
If the funding is discontinued the investigation will be forced to wind down.

Madeleine, who was six at the time of her disappearance, was last seen in her parents' holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal, in 2007.
Operation Grange was opened by the Met last year and involves 28 detectives.
It is believed to have cost around £2.5m so far.
Detectives said earlier this year that there was a chance Madeleine could still be alive.

They said they were pursuing dozens of leads and firmly believed she was abducted.
Portuguese police, however, have refused to re-open the case.

Mr Hogan-Howe said the police are sifting through a 'large cache' of documents.
He said 'there will be a point at which we and the Government will want to make a decision about what the likely outcome is,' according to the London Evening Standard.
'The Prime Minister agreed to fund this.
'We have not had any pressure to say you must stop spending more than x amount, we have received a lot of support.
'But by Christmas I would want a very clear view of what work is outstanding and what time line there is for that.'
Madeleine's parents Kate and Gerry have been desperately searching for her since May 2007.



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Post  Sabot Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:13 pm


Well, if Scotland Yard don't come up with any leads to the whereabouts of Madeleine, then there isn't any more that they can do, is there.
Perhaps they hoped to find a lead, but she could be anywhere in The World by now.
The real leads were lost five years ago because Amaral refused to believe that Madeleine had been abducted. And refused to follow anything pointing in that direction. But I have had enough of him. It is done, and it is too late.

I can now only hope that this will never happen again in Portugal. And I hope that Portugal is sorely ashamed.

Madeleine will be found by other means.
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Post  Maggs Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:25 pm

bb1 wrote: Top Scotland Yard cop hints the hunt for Madeleine McCann may be wound down unless Government commit to funding it
Cameron requested Met investigation into Madeleine's disappearance
Police fear funding for 'Operation Grange' could be cut just 15 months after it was launched
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The Metropolitan Police fears funding for its investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann could be cut.
Scotland Yard has asked David Cameron for a new commitment to financing the inquiry, which he requested 15 months ago, as the search for the missing youngster continues to draw a blank.
If the funding is discontinued the investigation will be forced to wind down.

Madeleine, who was six at the time of her disappearance, was last seen in her parents' holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal, in 2007.
Operation Grange was opened by the Met last year and involves 28 detectives.
It is believed to have cost around £2.5m so far.
Detectives said earlier this year that there was a chance Madeleine could still be alive.

They said they were pursuing dozens of leads and firmly believed she was abducted.
Portuguese police, however, have refused to re-open the case.

Mr Hogan-Howe said the police are sifting through a 'large cache' of documents.
He said 'there will be a point at which we and the Government will want to make a decision about what the likely outcome is,' according to the London Evening Standard.
'The Prime Minister agreed to fund this.
'We have not had any pressure to say you must stop spending more than x amount, we have received a lot of support.
'But by Christmas I would want a very clear view of what work is outstanding and what time line there is for that.'
Madeleine's parents Kate and Gerry have been desperately searching for her since May 2007.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2193130/Madeleine-McCann-Top-Scotland-Yard-cop-hints-hunt-missing-girl-wound-unless-Government-commit-funding-it.html#ixzz24VFCWgQH

Do the Mail ever check for accuracy, Bonny?

Madeleine, who was six at the time of her disappearance, was last seen in her parents' holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal, in 2007. ????
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Post  bb1 Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:30 pm

Good God! I didn't notice that, Maggs. Whatever happened to proof-readers?
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Post  Sabot Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:44 pm

bb1 wrote:Good God! I didn't notice that, Maggs. Whatever happened to proof-readers?

Well, I did notice, but what difference does it make? Half of these people don't get it right. But it is only a minor detail in a mass of misinformation. Will Scotland Yard be able o establish which Continent she is on?
Personally, I think that she is in France. But that is just a fancy of mine.
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