'Every five hours, a child disappears in Portugal'

**bb1** Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:12 pm

http://www.dn.pt/especiais/interior.aspx?content_id=3086628&especial=Revistas%20de%20Imprensa&seccao=TV%20e%20MEDIA

Every five hours a child vanishes
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There are about two thousand, on average, children and adolescents who disappear every year in Portugal. That is, every five hours, the authorities receive a complaint. Today, 15 years ago nobody knows Rui Pedro.
Most cases of disappearance are trails where minors are found, but there are also those that are never found, as was the case of Rui Pedro, Lousada. Today, the Court of Appeal Port communicates the decision on the appeal by the family and by prosecutors.
In addition to Rui Pedro, reports the "News Journal" , there are more children who disappeared and the economic crisis could increase the number of children who are referred for trafficking mafia networks, as the business moves, every year, in Worldwide, about 12 billion dollars. In the first six months of 2012, 892 cases of missing children and were initiated in the previous year was recorded in 2842 cases.
According to Patricia Cipriano, president of the Portuguese Association of Missing Children, "in the 90's several children disappeared in Portugal that were never found (Rui Pedro, Rui Pereira, Jorge Sepúlveda) ... For us this coincidence temporal and physical characteristics and age of these boys takes us to the thesis that there could be one or more salesmen in Portugal that kidnapped to deliver a transnational network, "he explains.

As we know:

https://jatyk2.forumotion.co.uk/t2800-ex-pj-inspector-disciplined-for-lies-in-rui-pedro-case

Rui Pedro's family have won their appeal.

**greenink211** Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:25 pm

Another article from today on the same subject about the thousands of children who disappear in Portugal every year.

Trafficking two thousand children disappear each year

The day you spend 15 years since the disappearance of Rui Pedro, Jornal de Noticias (JN) publishes a report on the number of children who disappear every year. According to the newspaper, every five hours the authorities receive a complaint of disappearance, which translates into two thousand cases of missing children and young people every year.

09:25 - March 4, 2013 | By the Minute News

In the first six months of 2012, the authorities recorded 892 complaints of missing children and young people. The previous year, the number had reached 2842. The News Journal writes today, as it marks the 15th year of the disappearance of Rui Pedro, which are recorded every year two thousand complaints of missing children and young people.

For Patricia Cipriano, president of the Portuguese Association of Missing Children, criminal networks are increasingly focusing on child trafficking a crime to be safer, because there is plenty of raw material and entail less risk.
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"It is the second largest criminal reality worldwide, alongside drug trafficking. The overall value estimated by UNICEF for this crime is 12 billion dollars a year, "explained Patricia Cipriano to JN.

According to the same charge, many children disappeared during the 90s with very similar physical characteristics, which for Patricia Cipriano, is not a coincidence.

"In the 90's several children disappeared in Portugal that were never found. For us, this coincidence in time and in physical characteristics and age of these boys takes us to the thesis that there could be one or more salesmen in Portugal that kidnapped to deliver a transnational network, "he explained.

This Monday, the Court of Appeal Port will reveal his decision on the appeal by the family of Rui Pedro and the prosecution to challenge the acquittal of Afonso Dias for the crime of kidnapping. To Filomena Teixeira, Rui Pedro's mother, "is an irony of fate have chosen precisely this date."

http://www.noticiasaominuto.com/pais/50795/desaparecem-duas-mil-crian%C3%A7as-todos-os-anos#.UTS8uVfd0oq

**lily** Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:34 pm

Remember when the Gonc Camp stated that they didn't have child abductions in Portugal? Pcorneater

**bb1** Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:36 pm

Thank you, Greenink.

Something is wrong, IMO. Not because the children have vanished, seemingly without trace - sadly, that can happen anywhere - but because the botched investigations have all followed the same pattern.

Smear the parents; don't bother to actually try to find the child; announce that the child is dead.

That was done to Rui Pedro's family. And even when he was later seen in Paris, and on vile sick films, STILL the-then PJ would not admit their mistake.

It's taken till now for the officer in charge to be disciplined for his misconduct.

**bb1** Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:37 pm

lily wrote:Remember when the Gonc Camp stated that they didn't have child abductions in Portugal?

Sadly, such crimes can happen anywhere in the world, Lily. It's the past reactions - or non-reactions - of the-then PJ which makes Portugal stand out as.....unusual.

**lily** Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:45 pm

bb1 wrote:
lily wrote:Remember when the Gonc Camp stated that they didn't have child abductions in Portugal?

Sadly, such crimes can happen anywhere in the world, Lily. It's the past reactions - or non-reactions - of the-then PJ which makes Portugal stand out as.....unusual.

I'll say it does. It does not reflect well on Portugal and it makes a person wonder why they treat these tragic cases with such disdain?

No wonder some people have contempt for corrupt and lying ex-cops like the Gonc faction. mad

**bb1** Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:47 pm

No-one here would defend dirty cops in the States, or the UK, Lily. So why do these people think dirty cops in Portugal are acceptable?

What does that say about them? Don't they think the people of Portugal deserve better?

**Maggs** Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:50 pm

Something is wrong, IMO. Not because the children have vanished, seemingly without trace - sadly, that can happen anywhere - but because the botched investigations have all followed the same pattern.

Yes, Bonny, and most of their botched investigations, included a fridge, a shovel and a dog, oh and a Gonc. rofl

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It must be the written rule for PJ cops wker

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**lily** Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:56 pm

bb1 wrote:No-one here would defend dirty cops in the States, or the UK, Lily. So why do these people think dirty cops in Portugal are acceptable?

What does that say about them? Don't they think the people of Portugal deserve better?

What does it say? Well.......

That they approve of cops who torture people.

That they approve of cops who lie.

That they approve of cops who appear not to know about DNA and other forensic tests.

That they approve of cops who are corrupt.

That they approve of cops who would rather stuff their faces instead of get off their rear ends to do whatever it takes to find a child.

That they approve of cops who invent stupid tales of fantasy.

That they approve of cops who have to have a team of whitewash people to join up to UK forums to spread tales of fantasy and lies etc......

That they stand behind said type of cop instead of a vulnerable young child.

In other words......... they must admire all those traits in people and maybe they have some such traits themselves?

**greenink211** Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:06 pm

lily wrote:Remember when the Gonc Camp stated that they didn't have child abductions in Portugal?

Do you think they got that information from CdM back in 2007? 'Every five hours, a child disappears in Portugal' 650269930

And haven't bothered reading anything since?

**lily** Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:08 pm

Greenink, anything is possible with that lot. So yes, I will say that that is entirely possible.

**muratfan** Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:57 pm

bb1 wrote:No-one here would defend dirty cops in the States, or the UK, Lily. So why do these people think dirty cops in Portugal are acceptable?

What does that say about them? Don't they think the people of Portugal deserve better?

Because they believed the rubbish peddled by the worst speaking Portuguese nationals, ones who could not actually speak their own language, never mind English.

Seems to me that some journalists, and lawyers, were scared and possibly did have repercussions for speaking out. Hence the British Consulate rushed to help the McCanns, because they knew what the PJ were like and the they were useless

**Sabot** Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:48 pm

Let us not forget that Amaral volunteered for the job of Coordinator in The McCann Case. He was due to go on holiday on the very next day. The Lovely Sofa was not at all happy about this, as she explained in her disgraceful letter to Kate McCann. So we all know about that.

**bb1** Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:51 pm

Are we actually sure it was a 'holiday'? Remember what else was happening to Gonc that day - the not so small detail he left out of The Truth - I'm A Liar.

http://expresso.sapo.pt/policia-arguido-no-processo-das-agressoes-a-leonor-cipriano=f109569

An official of the PJ of Portimão is the seventh police to be involved in the process of the alleged assaults to her mother Joan.

18:00 Friday, May 4, 2007
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Gonçalo Amaral, coordinator of the Judicial Police of Portimão was made accused in the case which investigates alleged aggressions against Leonor Cipriano, which have occurred in October 2004. The woman complained of having been beaten to punch, kick and with a cardboard tube during "informal inquiries" that have elapsed without the presence of defense counsel and without knowledge of the public prosecutor investigating the child's disappearance, eight year old daughter of Leonor.

Gonçalo Amaral was at the time of Faro PJ coordinator and have been why it was made accused. Six inspectors of the Central Directorate for Combating Gangsterism and are also defendants were already a line recognition. Four were not recognized by the complainant, who identified the other two but exonerated them of assault. Leonor Cipriano was sentenced to 16 years in prison for manslaughter, co-authored with his brother, Joan. The child's body was never found.

Ler mais: http://expresso.sapo.pt/policia-arguido-no-processo-das-agressoes-a-leonor-cipriano=f109569#ixzz2MbexuHGh

4th May, 2007.

**Sabot** Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:11 pm

Don't know, Bonny. Perhaps he arranged to go on holiday to get out of the way. Until he spotted the golden opportunity. Stitch up The McCanns and get out of a jail sentence.

**Pedro Silva** Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:21 pm

about "According to Patricia Cipriano, president of the Portuguese Association of Missing Children, "in the 90's several children disappeared in Portugal that were never found (Rui Pedro, Rui Pereira, Jorge Sepúlveda) ...", for me, this is no coincidence, this just proves that PJ (which admitted in the light of Madeleine McCann´s abduction case) have no experience whatsoever in abduction cases, which can be proved in these cases: Madeleine McCann, Rui Pedro, Joana Cipriano, Rui Pereira, Jorge Sepúlveda, etc, which also PJ failed to follow leads which could helped locate these missings.

if you take a look at PJ website at the missing children or people in Portugal, you will see what I mean.

**Sabot** Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:50 pm

With that very large number of children disappearing over two decades at least, you might think that The PJ should have had loads of experience.

**Pedro Silva** Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:31 pm

no Sabot, PJ have no experience at all in abduction cases.

**Sabot** Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:37 pm

Pedro Silva wrote:no Sabot, PJ have no experience at all in abduction cases.

But why not, Pedro? There have been enough Cases for them to investigate.

**Pedro Silva** Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:39 pm

I believe that certain dedicated, free of corruption or incompetence PJ members tried to do their best about abduction cases investigations, but the problem is their lack of experience together with corrupt, incompetent coordinators like disgusting gonçalo amaral, that is probably one of the motives for amaral being sacked (although late) from the crap, hardly called investigation about Madeleine´s abduction.

**Sabot** Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:54 pm

I see what you mean, Pedro. Presuming that the old hands rule. But there must be some good ones coming up who really do want to do a proper job.
And it actually isn't all that difficult. Detecting is detecting what ever the crime. So one can only presume that the old hands didn't want to investigate properly. What a pathetic Police Force.

**Pedro Silva** Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:00 pm

For example: when Paulo Rebelo was in charge of Madeleine´s abduction investigation, he was very angry with the mess under amaral´s coordination, which amaral was the true guilty responsible for all that crap.

**lily** Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:26 pm

Pedro Silva wrote:For example: when Paulo Rebelo was in charge of Madeleine´s abduction investigation, he was very angry with the mess under amaral´s coordination, which amaral was the true guilty responsible for all that crap.

We read about how angry Rebelo was with the mess Amaral had made of the investigation. Wasted time too....... mad

**Pedro Silva** Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:38 pm

yes, wasted time, if disgusting amaral had shown the same commitment in finding an innocent child, as he did with his lies, smears, defamation, this could have been solved in an hour or two, but, thanks to that piece of shit, this is still to be solved, but, at least, this important issue is in the hands of a capable, experienced police force, which is truly committed in finding her, which is what really matters.

**lily** Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:49 pm

Pedro, it makes my blood boil to think that Madeleine had a chance if that fool Amoral had got off his fat ass and actually done some competent investigative work. mad

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