Sun - Yard have new lead in search for Madeleine

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4842474/New-Madeleine-McCann-lead-as-police-hunt-for-six-Brit-cleaners.html

Maddie: Hunt for 6 Brit cleaners
Cops' new lead
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By DAN SALES and JACK ROYSTON
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COPS investigating the Madeleine McCann case are trying to trace six British cleaners working in Portugal when she disappeared.
The group were based in Praia da Luz when Madeleine, then just three, vanished from her family’s holiday complex in 2007.
A property owner has told how cops probing the disappearance asked four times about the cleaners.

Officers became aware of the six to eight Brit workers — who are said to have used a white van — after poring through evidence amassed during the original Portuguese investigation.
They are now asking for information about the group from owners whose properties overlook the Praia da Luz apartment where Madeleine stayed.
It is the first time the cleaners have been mentioned during any investigations into the three-year old’s disappearance.
The current inquiry — codename Operation Grange — is reviewing all evidence and leads thrown up by the original probe.
Portuguese police are said to have spoken to all nearby apartment owners about who was present on May 3, 2007, when Madeleine vanished while on holiday with parents Gerry and Kate.
Now Scotland Yard cops are going back to review witnesses and statements in the case.

One property owner showed The Sun a letter from the force, which says officers are checking who was in flats at the time.
When he rang the cops, he said he was asked repeatedly about the cleaners, who he believes were six to eight men or women.
The owner said: “The officer said it had been drawn to their attention there were British people that cleaned the apartments who they needed to speak to.
“They said, ‘Who are the British cleaners that are cleaning the apartments in a white van’?
“They wanted to know if I knew anybody that does cleaning out there. They asked about it four times. Mostly the cleaners that do the Ocean Club apartments where the McCanns were staying are Portuguese.
“But they were keen to know if I knew anybody that worked for a cleaning firm out there. They were very interested in who’d have access to those apartments.”


The owner added: “The apartments where the McCanns were staying have their own cleaners provided by the Ocean Club. But some don’t want to pay their prices and get others to come in.
“Any British cleaners would not be on contract, they’d be brought in. They have adverts in the supermarkets and some of the private apartments use them because they’re cheaper.
“Where the McCanns were — or near where they were — may well have had someone who used them. I think people should be aware cops want to speak to these people. Me speaking out might help others that know them to come forward.”
A source said: “This seems to be a completely new line of inquiry. There is no mention of a group of British cleaners using a white van in the original Portuguese police files which have been made public so far.
“It would seem that this is something that has been brought to the attention of the police by someone they have interviewed during their investigation.”

Operation Grange was set up by PM David Cameron following pleas from Madeleine’s family, who live in Rothley, Leics.
A Met Police spokesman said speaking to individuals was part of its review, adding: “Officers are reviewing all of the material in relation to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. This is routine procedure as part of the ongoing review.”


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Mystery vehicle
WITNESSES have mentioned a white van before in the Madeleine case — most recently in 2010.
Carlos Moreira, 65, said he saw her lying in the back of a van near the spot where she vanished.
He told investigators he had seen a couple who looked like gypsies near the vehicle.
Earlier there were reports to the original Portuguese police probe of a young dark-haired man acting suspiciously beside a white van just before Madeleine disappeared.
The man, with deep-set eyes, was reportedly seen staring intently at the apartment where the McCann family were staying.

How very interesting! The 8rs are all screeching their heads off about this.

Thought they 'cared' about Madeleine? Aren't they pleased that the Yard are chasing up leads which may lead to her being found and reunited with her family?

There is no way this side of hell that they are going to be positive over this. They are so scared of being wrong, of losing face, of having been tricked by a second-rate conman, and of having "Da da ti ta da, I kept saying you were making a fool of yourself" being shouted non-stop at them. It takes a big hearted person to step back, hang their head and admit, in a very small voice to start off with, that they were wrong. It can be done, but it takes courage and hard work to reverse what is now a very entrenched position. Bullies can never take that step, can they? LL

IMO, they should be encouraged to screech and shriek, LL. Because every time they do it, they are telling the world that they hate Madeleine McCann as much as they hate her parents.

Well, they must do, because they demonstrate daily that they cannot bear the thought of the child being alive. What is that, if not hatred?

bb1 wrote:IMO, they should be encouraged to screech and shriek, LL. Because every time they do it, they are telling the world that they hate Madeleine McCann as much as they hate her parents.

Well, they must do, because they demonstrate daily that they cannot bear the thought of the child being alive. What is that, if not hatred?

And that's, the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth!

Oh, maybe one of the other reasons they are screaming so much is that this makes a nonsense of Gonc's burbles - not that that's unusual. They cannot face the fact that the Yard and Porto PJ know Madeleine was the victim of abduction?

bb1 wrote:Oh, maybe one of the other reasons they are screaming so much is that this makes a nonsense of Gonc's burbles - not that that's unusual. They cannot face the fact that the Yard and Porto PJ know Madeleine was the victim of abduction?

Correct. Then that would mean that sooner or later they would have to face themselves. Then realize what nasty pathetic creatures they have been by behaving in such disgusting ways about Madeleine and her family.

Confirmation that Team Gonc are very worried indeed about this comes from Carolina/Montclair:

Re: Madeleine McCann and the white van man
Carolina Today

If this whole story were true, do you really believe that the police would have allowed this story to come out in the press and let the "culprits" be warned.

'Warned'? What a bizarre way to put it. Worried and insecure, more like.

Because if this is in any way involved with Madeleine's abduction, then those people have been sitting pretty all this time, happy in the knowledge that Team Gonc was protecting them by smearing Madeleine's parents.

Something rattling Team Gonc cages, is it?

JillyCL ‏@JillyCL
The story has been planted. It's in the Sun, Mirror and Mail...so far. Planted by whom? is the question. #McCann

This story really has got the 8rs rattled, hasn't it? They're churning out any kind of delusional carp rather than face the truth.

Stella Starlight ‏@StellabyLight
@Bishop_Basher no doubt it's to counter balance something that's about to happen. #McCann

05 CARTAS ROGATORIAS 5 Pages 42 to 43
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cr5_43
LEICESTERSHIRE POLICE SQUAD
WITNESS TESTIMONY OF CARLO FRANCISO D'AMBROSIO
Occupation: Hair Dresser

This statement, consisting of three pages, each signed by me, is true to the best of my knowledge and belief and I make it knowing that, if it is tendered in evidence, I shall be liable to prosecution if I have willfully states in it anything I know to be false or do not believe to be true.

Date: 29 April 2008
Signature:

I am the above referenced person and live at the address previously given to this police.

On the 14th of April of 2007, in the company of my partner, June HUGHES, we travelled from Glasgow airport to Portugal for a one week holiday.



We noticed that the cleaning personnel entered the apartment after one knock and did not give us time to respond. This was a bit bothersome and for this reason we would lock the door, and would leave the key in the inside lock.

After this precaution, the next day, the same thing happened and the cleaning woman entered even though the door was locked with the key in the lock.

We never found out how it was possible for a cleaning woman to enter after we had tried to prevent it.

Thanks, Max - well remembered!

And that leads to something else - Gonc's insistence that there were no spare keys to 5a, when even from the files we know there were in fact four copies.

bb1 wrote:Thanks, Max - well remembered!

And that leads to something else - Gonc's insistence that there were no spare keys to 5a, when even from the files we know there were in fact four copies.

If I was a cynic, I might say that Gonc knows who that abductor is as he has been doing his utmost to protect that ring of people.....

Glitter_Brain ‏@glitter_brain
@sunnewsreporter why deleting comments from people that are quoting from PJ files..does K8 n Gerry got shares in your paper #mccann


The Sun reporter ‏@sunnewsreporter
@glitter_brain just because something is in a police file does not allow us to use it without fear of being sued,unlike things said in court

The 8rs won't be able to grasp the difference. But it's always good to see them hassling the press.

Hounder:

The mirror are taking comments but wooshed mine for mentioning the uk police dogs

Don't tell me they're doing that thing where they hatespam any site that lets them comment, then copy their own hatespam back to their hate sites, pretend it's the public and that Tick tock, the tide is turning?


Don't they know everyone's on to them? On the other hand, who are we to stop them making fools of themselves?

Ex-pat forker:

English cleaners in a white van? For God's sake, this is the Algarve. There are a lot of cleaners who are English , and amazingly enough, a lot of them drive white vans!!!!!!! Why has this reared its ugly head now. Someone defo needs to get a grip here. If these cleaners haven't been mentioned before or even tracked down ( if they do actually exist) before now why has this "home-owner" suddenly been made aware of them and asked about them?

More to the point, why wasn't Gonc interested? Just like he wasn't interested in all those spare keys which were floating about?

I thought that lot were Troofseekers. Why are they all in such a state because the Yard and Porto PJ are trying to find Madeleine McCann?

I wonder if this white van could be related with hewlett.

Could be, Pedro, or could be totally unrelated. That kind of cleaning work is very much casual labour; I doubt if many checks were made on the employees.

Yes bb1, I agree with you.

to Lu , England, 15/3/2013 12:47; to Spiritdancer , Chelmsford, United Kingdom; Gary Rose, the lake., Canada, 15/3/2013 12:55; to darren-darren , Belfast, 15/3/2013 12:58; know this:

the answer is this name: gonçalo amaral who never showed interesting in finding this innocent child, instead, amaral only showed interest in gain disgusting fame and fortune at the expenses of an innocent child, at the expenses of innocent parents.

also for Spiritdancer , Chelmsford, United Kingdom, 15/3/2013

I agree with this comment: If my daughter had been abducted I would never stop looking. More than one child has been found after years of being held captive, I can think of several in the USA and Germany, one who had 2 children by the time she was found.

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if someone from jatyk can do me the favour of write my comment: the answer is this name: gonçalo amaral who never showed interesting in finding this innocent child, instead, amaral only showed interest in gain disgusting fame and fortune at the expenses of an innocent child, at the expenses of innocent parents.

Madeleine McCann is a real, living, findable child,

the cases of Shawn Hornbeck, Jaycee Dugard, Natascha Kampusch proves it.

in the comments area, please feel free to do it, thank you:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2293759/Madeleine-McCann-hunt-Operation-Grange-officers-look-cleaners-white-van.html

The genius that has made yoyo a legend amongst hounders:


Cleaners do not come to clean in the night. Also usually one cleaner turns up for the job, not six collectively to do one small apt.

One would have thought the MET would have the basic common sense to ask the owner, Ruth Mccann, whether she hires "Brits" cleaners, and was cleaning done during the mccanns' occupation of the apt. It would be much quicker and more discreet.

What? Has the creature NO idea how contract cleaners work? If it's convenient for the property to be cleaned at night, then cleaned at night it is.

There is actually more than one apartment in PDL - why on earth does the loon think 5a was being cleaned by six cleaners?

That response is akin to Gonc and the one key nonsense.

Strangely enough, they come and clean apartments and houses in this country during the day and at night too. Funny that......

Even by 8r standards, that one is astoundingly stupid. I cannot even begin to fathom why someone would say something so totally braindead,.

I had, foolishly, assumed that everyone knew that contract cleaners clean when the client asks them to and that they may be dispatched to do several jobs in the same area, not all to one apartment.