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So, dogs don't lie?
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So, dogs don't lie?
Hounders, forkers, the Big Rock Cult and general low-life 8rs are never done claiming that dogs are infallible - totally ignoring the high-profile cases which have been fouled up by supposed wonderwoofs.
This is one of my personal favourites - a Scandinavian case, involving a self-proclaimed 'serial killer'.
Who turned out NOT to be a serial killer - just a nutjob and WUM who tied the police in knots for years. This didn't stop the wonderwoof Zampo 'alerting' to cadaver odour where no cadaver had been...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/20/thomas-quick-bergwall-sweden-murder
There was a clique of people around Quick, variously described by those I talk to as being akin to "a cult", "a travelling circus" and "a religious sect that did not welcome dissenting beliefs". The same police officer, therapist, prosecuting and defence lawyer dealt with each of his confessions through the years. Even the same sniffer dog, Zampo, was used to trawl each "murder" site.
"During the course of the investigation, Quick mentioned at least 24 different places in Sweden and Norway where he had committed murders, handled dead bodies or left body parts," says Leyla Belle Drake, who was Hannes Råstam's literary agent. "Zampo marked for human remains 45 times at those 24 locations. Not a single trace of blood or body parts was ever found. The dog is just as bad as the rest of them."
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Doncha just love the irony of the dog that lied being called ZAMPO.......
This is one of my personal favourites - a Scandinavian case, involving a self-proclaimed 'serial killer'.
Who turned out NOT to be a serial killer - just a nutjob and WUM who tied the police in knots for years. This didn't stop the wonderwoof Zampo 'alerting' to cadaver odour where no cadaver had been...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/20/thomas-quick-bergwall-sweden-murder
There was a clique of people around Quick, variously described by those I talk to as being akin to "a cult", "a travelling circus" and "a religious sect that did not welcome dissenting beliefs". The same police officer, therapist, prosecuting and defence lawyer dealt with each of his confessions through the years. Even the same sniffer dog, Zampo, was used to trawl each "murder" site.
"During the course of the investigation, Quick mentioned at least 24 different places in Sweden and Norway where he had committed murders, handled dead bodies or left body parts," says Leyla Belle Drake, who was Hannes Råstam's literary agent. "Zampo marked for human remains 45 times at those 24 locations. Not a single trace of blood or body parts was ever found. The dog is just as bad as the rest of them."
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Doncha just love the irony of the dog that lied being called ZAMPO.......
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bb1- Slayer of scums
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Re: So, dogs don't lie?
Zampo, The Dog That Lied.
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What about the forkers' favourite, Eddiewoof, RIP? Surely his career was a bit more distinguished? Let's see.....
Attracta Harran.....Not bad, he and the non-famous police dog, Freddie, found the poor woman's blood in the burned-out car. They then found her body. Mind you, it was so badly decayed by then, the humans could smell the remains too.
Eddie ignored training and jumped in the nearby river.
Orkney....Not bad, Eddie did find the victim's body in a sand dune. Unfortunately, the human who put the corpse there pointed out the general area first, having been too drunk to remember exactly which patch of sand he'd buried it in.
Eddie ignored training and tried to dig the deceased up.
PDL....Least said the better. Much uncontrolled barking and game-playing with what was supposed to be evidence, with nothing apart from a handful of unrelated blood spots found. Mind you, he did come across some leftovers he took a fancy to in one kitchen.
Jersey...The world's most expensive old coconut.
Ah, I hear you say, what about the Prout case? Did not Eddie do some carpet-woofing in the living room? And did not Prout later confess, thereby proving Eddie was indeed a Wonderwoof?
Sadly, another disaster. The carpet-woofing turned out to be totally irrelevant, as the late Mrs Prout went to her maker in a shooting lodge and was then buried in a pheasant pen:
http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Kate-Prout-inquest-finally-hears-husband/story-16000525-detail/story.html#axzz2PSeEKbqV
At the inquest into the former teacher's death, Detective Inspector Steve Bean, of Gloucestershire CID said on November 5, 2007, Prout went out to the lodge at Redhill Farm to prepare for the following day's shoot.
"She followed him and they began arguing," Mr Bean said.
"She was planning to humiliate him in some way the following day. He snapped, and thrust his right hand into her neck and squeezed for 10 to 15 seconds. She didn't struggle. She fell backwards."
He told Assistant Deputy Coroner Katie Skerrett that Prout fixed himself a glass of whisky, before wrapping Kate's body in a curtain, putting it in the back of his Land Rover and went to the pub. When he returned, he drove to a pheasant pen and dug a hole with a shovel and buried her body.
Alerting to the scene of the crime, and place of burial, or even the Land Rover, would have been impressive. Barking at the Axminster isn't.
Indeed, Eddie's antics may well have helped Prout think he could get away with it, as he would know better than anyone that the carpet-woofing was a total irrelevancy. Not least because Prout had his OWN spaniels, and knew more about them than a bunch of deluded idiots on hate sites.
Attracta Harran.....Not bad, he and the non-famous police dog, Freddie, found the poor woman's blood in the burned-out car. They then found her body. Mind you, it was so badly decayed by then, the humans could smell the remains too.
Eddie ignored training and jumped in the nearby river.
Orkney....Not bad, Eddie did find the victim's body in a sand dune. Unfortunately, the human who put the corpse there pointed out the general area first, having been too drunk to remember exactly which patch of sand he'd buried it in.
Eddie ignored training and tried to dig the deceased up.
PDL....Least said the better. Much uncontrolled barking and game-playing with what was supposed to be evidence, with nothing apart from a handful of unrelated blood spots found. Mind you, he did come across some leftovers he took a fancy to in one kitchen.
Jersey...The world's most expensive old coconut.
Ah, I hear you say, what about the Prout case? Did not Eddie do some carpet-woofing in the living room? And did not Prout later confess, thereby proving Eddie was indeed a Wonderwoof?
Sadly, another disaster. The carpet-woofing turned out to be totally irrelevant, as the late Mrs Prout went to her maker in a shooting lodge and was then buried in a pheasant pen:
http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Kate-Prout-inquest-finally-hears-husband/story-16000525-detail/story.html#axzz2PSeEKbqV
At the inquest into the former teacher's death, Detective Inspector Steve Bean, of Gloucestershire CID said on November 5, 2007, Prout went out to the lodge at Redhill Farm to prepare for the following day's shoot.
"She followed him and they began arguing," Mr Bean said.
"She was planning to humiliate him in some way the following day. He snapped, and thrust his right hand into her neck and squeezed for 10 to 15 seconds. She didn't struggle. She fell backwards."
He told Assistant Deputy Coroner Katie Skerrett that Prout fixed himself a glass of whisky, before wrapping Kate's body in a curtain, putting it in the back of his Land Rover and went to the pub. When he returned, he drove to a pheasant pen and dug a hole with a shovel and buried her body.
Alerting to the scene of the crime, and place of burial, or even the Land Rover, would have been impressive. Barking at the Axminster isn't.
Indeed, Eddie's antics may well have helped Prout think he could get away with it, as he would know better than anyone that the carpet-woofing was a total irrelevancy. Not least because Prout had his OWN spaniels, and knew more about them than a bunch of deluded idiots on hate sites.
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Well, I'm glad we've sorted out The Prout Case. Eddie reacted to a spot where no cadaver had been, and he didn't react to the Land Rover where a cadaver had been. Nor to the Shooting Lodge where the poor woman was killed. Nor the Pheasant Pen where the cadaver was buried. So much for concrete.
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About: "Eddie reacted to a spot where no cadaver had been, and he didn't react to the Land Rover where a cadaver had been. Nor to the Shooting Lodge where the poor woman was killed. Nor the Pheasant Pen where the cadaver was buried. So much for concrete.", again, this proves that dogs are not reliable, they do make mistakes, except of course in the insane brain of antis.
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I would like to see a forker explain why Eddie didn't alert in the Land Rover, Pedro, as Mrs Prout's body had been there for some time.
They won't face the truth - that the whole thing is junk science, bordering on superstition. Dogs are a valuable tool, but that is all.
Also, I have noticed that many of the Dog Cult don't actually have dogs themselves, so have even less idea what they are talking about.
They won't face the truth - that the whole thing is junk science, bordering on superstition. Dogs are a valuable tool, but that is all.
Also, I have noticed that many of the Dog Cult don't actually have dogs themselves, so have even less idea what they are talking about.
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Pedro Silva wrote:About: "Eddie reacted to a spot where no cadaver had been, and he didn't react to the Land Rover where a cadaver had been. Nor to the Shooting Lodge where the poor woman was killed. Nor the Pheasant Pen where the cadaver was buried. So much for concrete.", again, this proves that dogs are not reliable, they do make mistakes, except of course in the insane brain of antis.
Honestly, Pedro. What is the matter with these people. We prove them wrong over and over again, and still they churn out the same old rubbish.
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bb1, Sabot, your words are mine.
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http://voiceforprotest.blogspot.co.uk/2010/03/operation-rectangle-summary-report.html
VT / 9 Trench and gun emplacement containing small personnel shelter. Forensic examination revealed recently deposited tissues that appeared to have been used to ‘clean up following sexual intercourse’. It would appear that the shelter had been used as a venue for courting couples. This alert is within the trained parameters of the dog’s repertoire and is a satisfactory explanation of the alert.
http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic35-10.html
Apartment 5 D
We’ve put the victim recovery dog through this apartment, the only interest has been in some food that he has found, other than that there is no interest in anything that he has been taught to tell me that he has found.
Apartment H5
We searched this apartment and the dog hasn’t shown any interest in this particular apartment, apart from around the table, where there was a tennis ball which is how we reward the dog for finding things, as soon as we removed the tennis ball the interest was gone. And so it was a negative search.
Well, yes, if you choose to ignore the fact that Eddiewoof was interested in tennis balls and sausages.....
VT / 9 Trench and gun emplacement containing small personnel shelter. Forensic examination revealed recently deposited tissues that appeared to have been used to ‘clean up following sexual intercourse’. It would appear that the shelter had been used as a venue for courting couples. This alert is within the trained parameters of the dog’s repertoire and is a satisfactory explanation of the alert.
http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic35-10.html
Apartment 5 D
We’ve put the victim recovery dog through this apartment, the only interest has been in some food that he has found, other than that there is no interest in anything that he has been taught to tell me that he has found.
Apartment H5
We searched this apartment and the dog hasn’t shown any interest in this particular apartment, apart from around the table, where there was a tennis ball which is how we reward the dog for finding things, as soon as we removed the tennis ball the interest was gone. And so it was a negative search.
Well, yes, if you choose to ignore the fact that Eddiewoof was interested in tennis balls and sausages.....
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