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Post  bb1 Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:46 am

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/425994/Madeleine-Fresh-agony-for-Kate-and-Gerry-McCann

Madeleine: Fresh agony for Kate and Gerry McCann

KATE and Gerry McCann face more agony next week when their libel action against a former Portuguese police chief comes to court in Lisbon.

The couple are seeking £1million in damages from Goncalo Amaral over allegations he made about the fate of their daughter Madeleine.

The hearing could not come at a worse time, however, as Scotland Yard detectives begin work in the Algarve to try to solve the six-year-old ­mystery of Madeleine’s disappearance. The Sunday Express understands officers have advised the couple not to attend the civil hearing.

They believe Kate and Gerry’s presence would provoke a media circus and could seriously damage their sensitive work on Portuguese soil.

However, Mr Amaral is expected to attend and give interviews on the steps of the court to support his view that Madeleine died in apartment 5a of the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz on May 3, 2007.

He will say that under freedom of the press he has the right to air his views, especially as he was in a senior coordinating role early in the investigation.

A family friend said: “He has spent months working on his case and is very confident he will win.”

Isabel Duarte, the McCanns’ lawyer in Lisbon, said: “Kate and Gerry do not have to give evidence so they do not need to be here. I am confident of winning.” She is seeking damages for Kate, Gerry and their twins Sean and Amelie, plus further damages for the harm caused to the search for Madeleine.

It is expected some of the McCanns’ family will give evidence at the trial to explain the impact Mr Amaral’s allegations had on them and on the global hunt for the missing child.

A source said: “Because of the sensitivity of the situation, police don’t want the McCanns anywhere near the country because they fear it could turn into a media circus. They have faith in the Yard investigation and will do what the police feel is best. It will be bad enough having all the old allegations dragged up again and repeated. No doubt Mr Amaral will want to say his bit outside the court and it will all flare up again. It will not be helpful for the Yard.”

Heart specialist Gerry and former GP Kate, both 45, of Rothley, Leicestershire, have vowed never to give up the search for Madeleine, who would now be 10.

Their spokesman Clarence Mitchell said yesterday: “The court process in Portugal is in the hands of Kate and Gerry’s lawyers and is purely a matter for them to proceed with.”


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Post  bb1 Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:50 am

No doubt Mr Amaral will want to say his bit outside the court and it will all flare up again. It will not be helpful for the Yard.

It would be a miracle if the convicted liar resisted an opportunity to tell more lies and hurt efforts to find Madeleine all over again, no wonder so many people find him disgusting.

And I wonder which forker is the 'family friend'?
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Post  bb1 Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:02 am

Numty 1 asks:

Alessandra Fox Why is it that the rag never allows comments on a Madeleine McCann story?

Because of the hatespam and bile from the Amaral Fan Club.
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Post  Pedro Silva Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:52 am

wise decision:

"The Sunday Express understands officers have advised the couple not to attend the civil hearing.

They believe Kate and Gerry’s presence would provoke a media circus and could seriously damage their sensitive work on Portuguese soil.

Isabel Duarte, the McCanns’ lawyer in Lisbon, said: “Kate and Gerry do not have to give evidence so they do not need to be here. I am confident of winning.”

A source said: “Because of the sensitivity of the situation, police don’t want the McCanns anywhere near the country because they fear it could turn into a media circus. They have faith in the Yard investigation and will do what the police feel is best.

Heart specialist Gerry and former GP Kate, both 45, of Rothley, Leicestershire, have vowed never to give up the search for Madeleine, who would now be 10.

Their spokesman Clarence Mitchell said yesterday: “The court process in Portugal is in the hands of Kate and Gerry’s lawyers and is purely a matter for them to proceed with.”
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Post  bb1 Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:05 pm

No doubt Mr Amaral will want to say his bit outside the court and it will all flare up again. It will not be helpful for the Yard

Let's hope he starts burbling and hissing about Fridges, so the entire world can see him as a nasty buffoon. I do hope Portugal is setting the scene for the final downfall of the convicted perjurer.
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Post  Pedro Silva Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:42 pm

I think that the convicted perjurer amaral is not in healthy conditions to insist in his insanity in the court. probably, he will follow his lawyer´s advice, to solve that issue in the court with an easy way, less painful to him, to avoid more damages in him, against him.
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Post  bb1 Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:46 pm

I will be amazed if Gonc makes it into the dock, Pedro. With the state he's in, he looks as if he should be in hospital, not court.
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Post  Pedro Silva Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:52 pm

yes bb1, I agree with you:

"I will be amazed if Gonc makes it into the dock. With the state he's in, he looks as if he should be in hospital, not court."

if the lawyer of amaral has minimal intelligence,

he will understand that this is the only possible way to that convicted perjurer.
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Post  bb1 Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:07 pm

No doubt Mr Amaral will want to say his bit outside the court and it will all flare up again. It will not be helpful for the Yard

No, Gonc won't want to miss a chance to screw up efforts to find Madeleine McCann, will he? Nasty, nasty man.
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Post  Pedro Silva Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:16 pm

even if he repeat his comments insane, it will not have the effect he intends, exactly the opposite, will once again act against himself, and once again show the sort of nasty person he is.
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Post  bb1 Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:23 pm

Jude Wilson My thoughts too Caroline. However a few people have posted on Goncalo Amaral's fb page wishing him well. I would have expected many more than a handful given he has thousands of friends.

Not in Portugal he doesn't. Portuguese people know all about Gonc and the thug Cristovao. More fool the forkers for believing the spin from Gonc's cronies.
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Post  bb1 Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:13 pm

I wonder if the PJ has tipped off the Yard that Gonc is going to cause a public scene, and want to leave him to make a complete, utter, fool of himself?
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Post  lily Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:22 pm

Not only that, Bonny, but by allegedly saying what he will, that would be a repeat of libel on TV?
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Post  bb1 Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:58 pm

Forker:

The so called "allegations" in the book are the result of the investigation PERIOD.

Oh no they aren't. The crap, lies and smears in The Truth - I'm a Liar bear little resemblance to the police files and even less to the AG's archiving dispatch.

Gonc didn't even know which wonderwoof was in the back of the Grand Scenic - that's the Renault without the wheelwell he had such ghoulish fantasies about.
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Post  Pedro Silva Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:34 pm

hey forker, I´m contradicting you:

the book of amaral is the result of a crap, hardly called investigation, with one purpose: to feed the lust of amaral for dirty fame and fortune, in a word: celebrity, PERIOD.
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Post  Sabot Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:05 am

So what will Amaral have to say about Scotland Yard? He is bound to be asked, if he insists on spouting a load of rubbish about his opinion. He could find himself libelling Scotland Yard if he isn't very careful. Or in his arrogance, does he truly believe that he is more clever than they are?
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Post  bb1 Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:37 am

Or in his arrogance, does he truly believe that he is more clever than they are?

Got it in one, Sabot. Can't you picture it?

My hypothesis....fridges...burble....hiss....political interference...burble....dogs.....book....hiss...Gordon Brown...burble....fridges....masons...burble...hiss.....

I sincerely hope that Portugal is giving the disgrace to the nation enough rope to finally hang himself in public.
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Post  Sabot Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:03 am

"This is all a huge, international cover up" is not going to go down well, even in a Portuguese Court. At least I do hope not. Although I can't actually be sure.
Unless The Portuguese Judiciary really don't care if they become a third world laughing stock.

Amaral might well have had a right to an opinion, but sadly, he made statements of Fact, not only in his book but also on television, none of which he can prove.

But then, Amaral losing a Court Case is always marginally better than caving in, because he and his supporters can then spin The Verdict.
Tell me about it. I can write the script for them. But then so can we all.

And would you ever believe it. If the dates are right, I am going to be on a train to somewhere else, and I won't be taking The Lappy with me.
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Post  bb1 Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:14 am

I don't care, Sabot, as long as the vile wretch STFUs and stops his vendetta.

This nonsense from a forker will make you laugh:

Morning Palmeras16, but the McCanns claimed damages of E1 million which I understand was sequestered so it is up to them to prove that they suffered ill health , that his allegations hindered the search for Madeleine etc. You can't just accuse someone without offering proof that your accusation is right and tbat you are so confident you demand a sequester of their money. It would be like me calling you a liar and saying I suffered because of it but not having to produce evidence that you lied

Accusing people without evidence is a truly terrible thing, isn't it?

So why do the likes of them think it was OK for Amoral to do it to the McCanns? And make so much money out of his lies?
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Post  bb1 Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:48 am

McCann-haters grasp at straws:

e: Daily Express....Fresh agony for Kate and Gerry McCann
Post jeanmonroe Today


AnnaEsse wrote:
Not Born Yesterday wrote:
The bit about libel case defendants being guilty until proved innocent does seem to be relevant under UK law if this website is correct.

http://www.libelreform.org/our-report

I can't of course say if the same is true of Portuguese law but I'm sure that someone else will know.
When that nutty lawyer, who scarpered to Brazil, was sued for defamation by Amaral, nutty lawyer won. The judgement was that nutty lawyer truly believed what he had said and so it wasn't libel or defamation.

So, if Mr A says he truly believes what he has said about this case, where does that leave the McCanns 'claim' of libel or defamation?

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Deluded fools! One line in a report by a not-for-profit human rights group is NOT the same as an ongoing, Europe-wide, money-making vendetta, encompassing TV, the press and books.

As Gonc is going to find out. But I do hope that lot are giving him legal advice. biggrin 


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Post  bb1 Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:50 am

Incidentally, one thing Marcos most definitely is not is 'nutty', especially as he has wiped the floor with Gonc every time they've clashed in court.

And he didn't 'scarper' to Brazil and he isn't there now. Pcorneater 
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Post  Sabot Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:08 pm

Xcuse me. I thought that Amaral's money and his house had been sequestered. Still is, as far as I know.
I can't help wondering who did that.

Oh, it was a Portuguese Court. Good heavens, I wonder who decided to sequester Amaral's money? Probably because he is well known for not paying his debts.
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Post  bb1 Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:12 pm

Just like it was a Portuguese court that found him guilty of perjury.

Just like it was a Portuguese court that found his wife guilty of tax-dodging.

Just like it was a Portuguese court that found him guilty of trying to cheat his own brother out of a house.


....etc etc.

And this is what they admire so much? Go figure!
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Post  Sabot Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:24 pm

bb1 wrote:McCann-haters grasp at straws:

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AnnaEsse wrote:
Not Born Yesterday wrote:
The bit about libel case defendants being guilty until proved innocent does seem to be relevant under UK law if this website is correct.

http://www.libelreform.org/our-report

I can't of course say if the same is true of Portuguese law but I'm sure that someone else will know.
When that nutty lawyer, who scarpered to Brazil, was sued for defamation by Amaral, nutty lawyer won. The judgement was that nutty lawyer truly believed what he had said and so it wasn't libel or defamation.

So, if Mr A says he truly believes what he has said about this case, where does that leave the McCanns 'claim' of libel or defamation?

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Deluded fools! One line in a report by a not-for-profit human rights group is NOT the same as an ongoing, Europe-wide, money-making vendetta, encompassing TV, the press and books.

As Gonc is going to find out. But I do hope that lot are giving him legal advice. biggrin 


Can I make some attempt to explain this? If you please.

Marcos Correia appears to have intimated that Amaral was present during some of Leonor Cipriano's torture because she said that she saw him. Although she didn't actually accuse Amaral of torture. And she did have a bag over her head for most of the time.
Whether or not he was there is by the by since it wasn't actually a point of contention.
But Marcos Correia believed her when she said Amaral was there.
And as it happens, so do I.

In the end Amaral was only charged with and found guilty of Perjury.

The conclusion of The Court re Amaral's accusation against Marcos Correia leads me to suspect that The Court believed that Leonor Cipriano did in fact see Amaral.
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Post  bb1 Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:29 pm

It's the context, Sabot, he wasn't on a tour of Europe, Dear Julia's sofa, the Morais blog or anywhere else so public and high-profile.

It was only in the report by the human rights group headed by Marcos and Professor Dore - and let us not forget, Gonc tried to charge the Professor, too.
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