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Message To Anti-Madeleines - Madeleine – Writing the Wrongs So you think YOU know better?
bb1 Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:42 am
http://madeleine-writingthewrongs.com/
So you think YOU know better?
September
6
To any anti-Madeleine who reads this:
Why do you think YOU know better than the McCann supporters? Because, and let’s face facts here, the death and cover up theory is so completely and utterly implausible it is beyond any form of logic. Why cover up the death to begin with? To conceal the fact that they all left their kids alone for a period of time? THEN they go and admit that they did just that anyway? When they discovered the body, why not just leave it there till the morning and claim she must have fallen out of bed or had an accident while everyone else was asleep? That would be far easier than concocting a fake abduction and no need to dispose of a body. Autopsies to determine time of death are not so precise as to be able to determine if she died just before or just after they returned to the apartment, so she could have died any time after their return. So much easier. But why not just tell the doctor/hospital she died because of a tragic accident anyway? We know it wasn’t a Calpol overdose because Calpol is not a sedative. If she died as a result of an accident, then it was an accident, and again, the McCanns admitted leaving the kids alone anyway.
Who’s in on iit? The list would read like a telephone book. All the Tapas group for a start. Why would ALL of them agree to a cover up? One of them was the mother of one of the other friends, so SHE would have nothing to fear about being charged with neglect would she? Don’t you think at least SHE would have acted as the voice of reason, and point out they would never get away with it, and should tell the truth? Jez Wilkins, a man they only met while on holiday and who didn’t know them from Adam before that time, what would HE have to gain from participating in a cover up? And the body? That small, innocent body. Where did they hide it? Not in the apartment, because that was searched. Given the small time frame, and given they were tourists and had no local knowledge, where the hell could they hide it? Another empty apartment? Did the McCanns have a key to any other apartment? That would then involve a member of staff. “Excuse us, but our daughter just died and we need to hide her body, can you unlock that spare apartment please?” How likely is that? Amaral says the body was stored in a freezer but the freezers in the apartment are way too small so it would need the help of a local in PdL. Again, “Excuse us, but can we store the body of our dead three year old in your freezer for a few days?” No way.
And then moving the body in the hired car. In front of the whole world’s media circus, right outside their front door. And not ONE of them spotted a thing? Not ONE? Then the McCanns were made arguidos and were investigated. For investigated read “attempted to be framed”.
However the final and therefore only valid conclusion was that of the Portuguese Attorney General, who said that none of the suspicions that came to pass had any validation and that there was no evidence whatsoever that the McCanns committed any crime and that therefore their suspect status was lifted. What then of the guilty McCanns? Did they breathe a sigh of relief and accept they had got away with it, and then SHUT THE HELL UP? NO. They then proceeded to beg, and plead, and cry for anyone with any information regarding the case to come forward. Did they not think, even for a second, that someone could in fact come forward with the very thing that could prove their guilt? Is THAT really the actions of a guilty person? The whole party would need the acting skills of Oscar winners to pull it off, and continue to put on this act for as long as it takes, which the McCanns seem determined to prolong, despite being ‘Guilty.’
The whole death and cover up thesis is preposterous in the extreme, so far-fetched that if you wrote it into a film script, no studio or director would touch it. Why do you think the Portuguese AG summed the case up by declaring that there was no evidence that the McCanns committed any crime? Because there IS no evidence the McCanns committed any crime. Now, why do YOU think you know better than a man who knows more about the Portuguese legal system than any of us?
So you think YOU know better?
September
6
To any anti-Madeleine who reads this:
Why do you think YOU know better than the McCann supporters? Because, and let’s face facts here, the death and cover up theory is so completely and utterly implausible it is beyond any form of logic. Why cover up the death to begin with? To conceal the fact that they all left their kids alone for a period of time? THEN they go and admit that they did just that anyway? When they discovered the body, why not just leave it there till the morning and claim she must have fallen out of bed or had an accident while everyone else was asleep? That would be far easier than concocting a fake abduction and no need to dispose of a body. Autopsies to determine time of death are not so precise as to be able to determine if she died just before or just after they returned to the apartment, so she could have died any time after their return. So much easier. But why not just tell the doctor/hospital she died because of a tragic accident anyway? We know it wasn’t a Calpol overdose because Calpol is not a sedative. If she died as a result of an accident, then it was an accident, and again, the McCanns admitted leaving the kids alone anyway.
Who’s in on iit? The list would read like a telephone book. All the Tapas group for a start. Why would ALL of them agree to a cover up? One of them was the mother of one of the other friends, so SHE would have nothing to fear about being charged with neglect would she? Don’t you think at least SHE would have acted as the voice of reason, and point out they would never get away with it, and should tell the truth? Jez Wilkins, a man they only met while on holiday and who didn’t know them from Adam before that time, what would HE have to gain from participating in a cover up? And the body? That small, innocent body. Where did they hide it? Not in the apartment, because that was searched. Given the small time frame, and given they were tourists and had no local knowledge, where the hell could they hide it? Another empty apartment? Did the McCanns have a key to any other apartment? That would then involve a member of staff. “Excuse us, but our daughter just died and we need to hide her body, can you unlock that spare apartment please?” How likely is that? Amaral says the body was stored in a freezer but the freezers in the apartment are way too small so it would need the help of a local in PdL. Again, “Excuse us, but can we store the body of our dead three year old in your freezer for a few days?” No way.
And then moving the body in the hired car. In front of the whole world’s media circus, right outside their front door. And not ONE of them spotted a thing? Not ONE? Then the McCanns were made arguidos and were investigated. For investigated read “attempted to be framed”.
However the final and therefore only valid conclusion was that of the Portuguese Attorney General, who said that none of the suspicions that came to pass had any validation and that there was no evidence whatsoever that the McCanns committed any crime and that therefore their suspect status was lifted. What then of the guilty McCanns? Did they breathe a sigh of relief and accept they had got away with it, and then SHUT THE HELL UP? NO. They then proceeded to beg, and plead, and cry for anyone with any information regarding the case to come forward. Did they not think, even for a second, that someone could in fact come forward with the very thing that could prove their guilt? Is THAT really the actions of a guilty person? The whole party would need the acting skills of Oscar winners to pull it off, and continue to put on this act for as long as it takes, which the McCanns seem determined to prolong, despite being ‘Guilty.’
The whole death and cover up thesis is preposterous in the extreme, so far-fetched that if you wrote it into a film script, no studio or director would touch it. Why do you think the Portuguese AG summed the case up by declaring that there was no evidence that the McCanns committed any crime? Because there IS no evidence the McCanns committed any crime. Now, why do YOU think you know better than a man who knows more about the Portuguese legal system than any of us?
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Re: Message To Anti-Madeleines - Madeleine – Writing the Wrongs So you think YOU know better?
bb1 Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:07 pm
Another excellent post, by an anon, spotted on Amazon amidst all the hater trash, by erngath - many thanks!
A bunch of thoroughly vicious people seem to have decided that because the McCanns made an incredibly stupid decision about child care (though I suspect many others have done the same and got away with it), they now deserved to be vilified as killers.
The actual inquiry found no evidence to support this.
Every bit of "evidence" that ghouls on here think the Portuguese GA somehow "missed" collapses under a few minutes' scrutiny.
Eg. The McCanns did not fail to join in the search for their daughter. The question they were asked in that TV interview was about the period *after* the first night.
The dogs did *not* alert except in the opinion of their handler. This is not evidence, it's intelligence, which was followed up, and yielded nothing.
And so on.
Everything ghouls take issue with about the McCanns flows from this. If someone abducted my daughter and the police started investigating me, I would withdraw co-operation too. The police have serious form, when they can't find the real killer, in framing the easiest suspect instead. British police framed the Birmingham Six, the Guildford Four, Stefan Kiszko, Barry Bulsara, Colin Stagg.
Such an investigation is not going to find any killer. Amaral is a proven perjurer and had form in extracting a confession under duress from a mother for killing her daughter. She later retracted it and the brother was found guilty.
Meanwhile, there are people who think that parents who killed their daughter would for some reason devote the rest of their lives to reducing their chances of getting away with it - by keeping her in the spotlight. Once the investigations ended, if they had killed her, they would have got away with it. Why didn't they just fade away?
On the side of the McCanns' innocence are the conclusions reached by the authorities. They didn't say "there's evidence but we can't prove it". They said there was no evidence.
Against them are a lying police officer and a bunch of internet ghouls who all think they know better.
Think, think, think. Think of the harm you are doing. Think of the effect of this nasty little campaign. If successful, all you can do is to make people stop looking for a little girl who may just possibly still be alive somewhere. But - and this is even worse - it would also mean that whoever did this will be left free to do it again. Rene Hasee - taken from the same area 10 years before. Did the McCanns kill him too?
Whoever did this is out there still. Where does he live? Has he moved? Who is he watching? What is he doing right now?
This is not a joke or an internet sport. There are about 20 of you. There are 300+ people who liked Kate McCann's book. You are a tiny minority but you are not cleverer than everyone else and you are most certainly not harmless.
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Well said, whoever that was - makes a pleasant change from the repetitive trash posted by the haters.
A bunch of thoroughly vicious people seem to have decided that because the McCanns made an incredibly stupid decision about child care (though I suspect many others have done the same and got away with it), they now deserved to be vilified as killers.
The actual inquiry found no evidence to support this.
Every bit of "evidence" that ghouls on here think the Portuguese GA somehow "missed" collapses under a few minutes' scrutiny.
Eg. The McCanns did not fail to join in the search for their daughter. The question they were asked in that TV interview was about the period *after* the first night.
The dogs did *not* alert except in the opinion of their handler. This is not evidence, it's intelligence, which was followed up, and yielded nothing.
And so on.
Everything ghouls take issue with about the McCanns flows from this. If someone abducted my daughter and the police started investigating me, I would withdraw co-operation too. The police have serious form, when they can't find the real killer, in framing the easiest suspect instead. British police framed the Birmingham Six, the Guildford Four, Stefan Kiszko, Barry Bulsara, Colin Stagg.
Such an investigation is not going to find any killer. Amaral is a proven perjurer and had form in extracting a confession under duress from a mother for killing her daughter. She later retracted it and the brother was found guilty.
Meanwhile, there are people who think that parents who killed their daughter would for some reason devote the rest of their lives to reducing their chances of getting away with it - by keeping her in the spotlight. Once the investigations ended, if they had killed her, they would have got away with it. Why didn't they just fade away?
On the side of the McCanns' innocence are the conclusions reached by the authorities. They didn't say "there's evidence but we can't prove it". They said there was no evidence.
Against them are a lying police officer and a bunch of internet ghouls who all think they know better.
Think, think, think. Think of the harm you are doing. Think of the effect of this nasty little campaign. If successful, all you can do is to make people stop looking for a little girl who may just possibly still be alive somewhere. But - and this is even worse - it would also mean that whoever did this will be left free to do it again. Rene Hasee - taken from the same area 10 years before. Did the McCanns kill him too?
Whoever did this is out there still. Where does he live? Has he moved? Who is he watching? What is he doing right now?
This is not a joke or an internet sport. There are about 20 of you. There are 300+ people who liked Kate McCann's book. You are a tiny minority but you are not cleverer than everyone else and you are most certainly not harmless.
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Well said, whoever that was - makes a pleasant change from the repetitive trash posted by the haters.
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Re: Message To Anti-Madeleines - Madeleine – Writing the Wrongs So you think YOU know better?
Sabot Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:17 pm
I don't think anyone needs to know that much about The Portuguese Legal System, beyond the penchant of The PJ for stitching people up.
Every God forsaken theory that the Antis come up with falls by the wayside, and not just logistically. They state a theory, and then completely ignore any peripheral evidence that refutes their theory. They never follow anything through.
Some of them who realise that there wasn't time to dispose of anything on the 3rd of May, then proceed to insist that Madeleine disappeared earlier, despite loads of evidence to the contrary: i.e. Mr. Edmonds, which is why they have to try to discredit him. Fat chance.
That Gerry was seen carrying Madeleine away from the complex at 9. 50 pm when there are independent witnesses to the fact that he was at The Tapas Bar at 10 pm. So he had ten minutes to get to the beach from the Smith's sighting, dig a hole somewhere, and then get back. Did The Smiths see him carrying a spade by any chance, or did he use his bare hands?
There are loads more theories that don't hang together, but they refuse to discuss the big, big holes in their ideas, so there really isn't any point in talking to them. And you will just get banned anyway.
I don't know what has come over them, but they have serious issues in their own lives that they should need to make such vicious fools of themselves.
Every God forsaken theory that the Antis come up with falls by the wayside, and not just logistically. They state a theory, and then completely ignore any peripheral evidence that refutes their theory. They never follow anything through.
Some of them who realise that there wasn't time to dispose of anything on the 3rd of May, then proceed to insist that Madeleine disappeared earlier, despite loads of evidence to the contrary: i.e. Mr. Edmonds, which is why they have to try to discredit him. Fat chance.
That Gerry was seen carrying Madeleine away from the complex at 9. 50 pm when there are independent witnesses to the fact that he was at The Tapas Bar at 10 pm. So he had ten minutes to get to the beach from the Smith's sighting, dig a hole somewhere, and then get back. Did The Smiths see him carrying a spade by any chance, or did he use his bare hands?
There are loads more theories that don't hang together, but they refuse to discuss the big, big holes in their ideas, so there really isn't any point in talking to them. And you will just get banned anyway.
I don't know what has come over them, but they have serious issues in their own lives that they should need to make such vicious fools of themselves.
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Re: Message To Anti-Madeleines - Madeleine – Writing the Wrongs So you think YOU know better?
bb1 Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:15 pm
Another excellent post, this time from pfa, by TommyT:
http://www.pfa2.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8419
The antis' only motivation is hatred of the McCanns.
They really don't care about anything else.
They get some kind of perverse collective pleasure out of communing on various sites to have a sneer and giggle at the expense of people they have never met.
Of course there are people who take that hatred a step further and cause actual distress to real life people.
Not just the McCanns but anybody who is even vaguely associated with them or people who just happen to be in their vicinity.
It's no surprise that this blinkered group think will attract all manner of miscreants and ne'er-do-wells.
Every single attempt to proliferate their 'cause' (ie. hatred of the McCanns) meets with either mass derision/condemnation up to and including front page Headlines unequivocally calling them what they are: Stalkers.
It also results in legal action, expense, further misery and anxiety for the people affected.
To Tony Bennett the whole concept of implying his various 'targets' are into all kinds of nefarious goings on is just a manifestation of his own personal bitterness and also a "bit of fun"
But the reality is that various individuals have been arbitrarily made to worry about some nutbag villifying them on the internet.
Various antis have explicitly threatened physical violence towards the McCanns and others
A threat and/or an allegation is a real thing to the individual even if it is based on the inane hubris of some anonymous idiot on the internet.
It causes stress, fear and anxiety. Real stuff and not madey up internet drama.
They have zero self-awareness and zero idea of the consequences of their actions.
I know I've said all this a thousand times but what never ceases to amaze is the level of insensitivity, callousness, shallowness, bitchiness, stupidity, cruelty and sheer nastiness these clowns display.
And the real clincher is that they do all of this under the misappropriated banner of a missing girl's name.
Seriously, what a bunch of weirdo freaks
http://www.pfa2.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8419
The antis' only motivation is hatred of the McCanns.
They really don't care about anything else.
They get some kind of perverse collective pleasure out of communing on various sites to have a sneer and giggle at the expense of people they have never met.
Of course there are people who take that hatred a step further and cause actual distress to real life people.
Not just the McCanns but anybody who is even vaguely associated with them or people who just happen to be in their vicinity.
It's no surprise that this blinkered group think will attract all manner of miscreants and ne'er-do-wells.
Every single attempt to proliferate their 'cause' (ie. hatred of the McCanns) meets with either mass derision/condemnation up to and including front page Headlines unequivocally calling them what they are: Stalkers.
It also results in legal action, expense, further misery and anxiety for the people affected.
To Tony Bennett the whole concept of implying his various 'targets' are into all kinds of nefarious goings on is just a manifestation of his own personal bitterness and also a "bit of fun"
But the reality is that various individuals have been arbitrarily made to worry about some nutbag villifying them on the internet.
Various antis have explicitly threatened physical violence towards the McCanns and others
A threat and/or an allegation is a real thing to the individual even if it is based on the inane hubris of some anonymous idiot on the internet.
It causes stress, fear and anxiety. Real stuff and not madey up internet drama.
They have zero self-awareness and zero idea of the consequences of their actions.
I know I've said all this a thousand times but what never ceases to amaze is the level of insensitivity, callousness, shallowness, bitchiness, stupidity, cruelty and sheer nastiness these clowns display.
And the real clincher is that they do all of this under the misappropriated banner of a missing girl's name.
Seriously, what a bunch of weirdo freaks
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Re: Message To Anti-Madeleines - Madeleine – Writing the Wrongs So you think YOU know better?
Pedro Silva Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:53 pm
I agree with comments above.
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Re: Message To Anti-Madeleines - Madeleine – Writing the Wrongs So you think YOU know better?
bb1 Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:55 am
Half-cut doesn't agree:
silkcut says:
what an ARSE LOL
http://madeleine-writingthewrongs.com/2011/09/06/so-you-think-you-know-better/
the moron who wrote that started off on the wrong foot entirely - the pathetic mongrel writes to the anti madeleines - wash your disgusting little gob out before you put pen to paper dear, theres a good girl then sit and think if you have any brains that is before you write any more claptrap
you do deserve to stew in your sewer for suggesting anyone is against a 3 yr old you pathetic stupid little PRAT lol and that is being extremely kind to you
what mongrels exist in this case tis bizarre
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silkcut says:
so the creative shockhorrorthing did not answer my post about doctors NOT contaminating any crime scene hmmm silence speaks volumes when one puts forward a theory and its debunked one should have the decency to say oops ok that is out of the question then, yawn back tomorrow to whoop your arris if you post more rubbish like that
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Well, someone is posting rubbish...
silkcut says:
what an ARSE LOL
http://madeleine-writingthewrongs.com/2011/09/06/so-you-think-you-know-better/
the moron who wrote that started off on the wrong foot entirely - the pathetic mongrel writes to the anti madeleines - wash your disgusting little gob out before you put pen to paper dear, theres a good girl then sit and think if you have any brains that is before you write any more claptrap
you do deserve to stew in your sewer for suggesting anyone is against a 3 yr old you pathetic stupid little PRAT lol and that is being extremely kind to you
what mongrels exist in this case tis bizarre
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silkcut says:
so the creative shockhorrorthing did not answer my post about doctors NOT contaminating any crime scene hmmm silence speaks volumes when one puts forward a theory and its debunked one should have the decency to say oops ok that is out of the question then, yawn back tomorrow to whoop your arris if you post more rubbish like that
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Well, someone is posting rubbish...
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Sabot Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:40 am
Is that supposed to be "Debating?" Not very articulate, is it.
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