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bb1 Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:24 am
Well, that should encourage the tourists - NOT!
Anyone seen Luz the wannabe arsonist recently?
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bb1 Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:27 am
The full message on the wall is typical hater abuse of Madeleine and her family, but Moron Morais mysteriously thinks it's something to be proud of:
Joana Morais
@xklamation
Why didn't @TomSkyNews show full wall? 'Parents killed Maddie, English police are stupid' via @Marisa_TVI_JN #McCann pic.twitter.com/qjEMc32yJ5
That's what to do, show your country up as a shower of ignorant haters and fascists that cover up for child abductors.
Way to go!
Joana Morais
@xklamation
Why didn't @TomSkyNews show full wall? 'Parents killed Maddie, English police are stupid' via @Marisa_TVI_JN #McCann pic.twitter.com/qjEMc32yJ5
That's what to do, show your country up as a shower of ignorant haters and fascists that cover up for child abductors.
Way to go!
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bb1 Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:28 am
ather Jack @urcrazytoo 48m
@xklamation @Marisa_TVI_JN FFS, you people better get a grip before your tourist industry really does collapse. This is disgusting. #mccann
Father Jack @urcrazytoo 53m
@xklamation @TomSkyNews #mccann @Marisa_TVI_JN I love it when you go out of your way to show up your compatriots as cruel, stupid people.
Quite.
PDL really is earning it's nickname - Village of the Damned'
@xklamation @Marisa_TVI_JN FFS, you people better get a grip before your tourist industry really does collapse. This is disgusting. #mccann
Father Jack @urcrazytoo 53m
@xklamation @TomSkyNews #mccann @Marisa_TVI_JN I love it when you go out of your way to show up your compatriots as cruel, stupid people.
Quite.
PDL really is earning it's nickname - Village of the Damned'
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bb1 Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:30 am
Shoota! @CaroleShooter
Why do people assume it was a Portuguese person/citizen who did the graffiti? #mccann
Because it's in Portuguese. Stupid forker.
Why do people assume it was a Portuguese person/citizen who did the graffiti? #mccann
Because it's in Portuguese. Stupid forker.
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bb1 Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:32 am
Yup, that's the handiwork of a local Amoral supporter.
WELCOME TO PDL, VILLAGE OF THE DAMNED
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bb1 Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:40 am
http://stopthemyths.prophpbb.com/post237191.html?sid=b44a6f31077f105212539315d6cd5d6c#p237191
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What person in their right mind would go near that place?:
A child is abducted.
The people of the town do everything in their power to protect the abductor.
Another child is subjected to a man entering her bedroom whilst she's on holiday and doing god only knows what to her.
Tourists apartments are robbed.
A car get's fire bombed and the word 'talk' written in red spray paint.
A man known as the 'secret cardinal' wanders it's streets in a turban, carrying a pole, saying he's there to get rid of evil.
A drunk, homeless man says that everyone in the town fears being accused of Madeleine's abduction (which says a lot about the type of people he knows in PDL)
A poster of the missing child has white paint thrown over her face.
And now this graffiti? Graffiti is bad enough, but this?
I'm starting to think the Secret Cardinal is closer to the truth - something evil does lie at the heart of PDL.
Precisely. After this - who in their right mind would choose to go near the place, especially if they have children?
The inhabitants of PDL could scarcely make it more obvious that they don't want the truth about the place to come out.
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What person in their right mind would go near that place?:
A child is abducted.
The people of the town do everything in their power to protect the abductor.
Another child is subjected to a man entering her bedroom whilst she's on holiday and doing god only knows what to her.
Tourists apartments are robbed.
A car get's fire bombed and the word 'talk' written in red spray paint.
A man known as the 'secret cardinal' wanders it's streets in a turban, carrying a pole, saying he's there to get rid of evil.
A drunk, homeless man says that everyone in the town fears being accused of Madeleine's abduction (which says a lot about the type of people he knows in PDL)
A poster of the missing child has white paint thrown over her face.
And now this graffiti? Graffiti is bad enough, but this?
I'm starting to think the Secret Cardinal is closer to the truth - something evil does lie at the heart of PDL.
Precisely. After this - who in their right mind would choose to go near the place, especially if they have children?
The inhabitants of PDL could scarcely make it more obvious that they don't want the truth about the place to come out.
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bb1 Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:52 am
Previous handiwork of Team Gonzo (home division)-
Disgusting creatures.
Disgusting creatures.
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bb1 Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:53 am
Gonzo supporters in the PDL area again:
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bb1 Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:00 am
The Gonzo fangirlz are in a frenzy of one-handed typing, because not only has one of their own vandalised property in PDL, the police are using dogs - we all know how unpleasantly over-excited they get if anyone says DOG.
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http://news.sky.com/story/1279830/madeleine-mccann-police-bring-in-sniffer-dogs
By Tom Parmenter, Sky Correspondent, in Portugal
A new site has been cordoned off as detectives continue their investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
The land just outside the resort of Praia da Luz, in the Algarve, was taped off by Portuguese police early this morning ahead of the British team's arrival.
Within an hour, British police were back out on the ground and searching the new area, which lies on the road between Praia da Luz and the town of Lagos and sits behind a water treatment plant.
It is likely detectives will use many of the same techniques used last week in the other area they searched with sniffer dogs and radar equipment in their renewed efforts to help explain what happened to the youngster.
This is what is getting most publicity, though:
English police are criticised for renewing their search for the youngster
Is the Gonzo fan club capable of grasping how vicious, mean, nasty and cowardly that makes the residents of PDL look, on top of all the whinging and whining from Nana and the Port hounder?
From-
http://news.sky.com/story/1279830/madeleine-mccann-police-bring-in-sniffer-dogs
By Tom Parmenter, Sky Correspondent, in Portugal
A new site has been cordoned off as detectives continue their investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
The land just outside the resort of Praia da Luz, in the Algarve, was taped off by Portuguese police early this morning ahead of the British team's arrival.
Within an hour, British police were back out on the ground and searching the new area, which lies on the road between Praia da Luz and the town of Lagos and sits behind a water treatment plant.
It is likely detectives will use many of the same techniques used last week in the other area they searched with sniffer dogs and radar equipment in their renewed efforts to help explain what happened to the youngster.
This is what is getting most publicity, though:
English police are criticised for renewing their search for the youngster
Is the Gonzo fan club capable of grasping how vicious, mean, nasty and cowardly that makes the residents of PDL look, on top of all the whinging and whining from Nana and the Port hounder?
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bb1 Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:14 am
The jassi forker on injustice-
So Portuguese residents of PDL are listed amongst the haters, too, are they ?
Act like haters, get regarded as haters.
We've had assorted PDL officials bleating and whining about the damage to their precious tourist trade, ignoring the fact that the media - and police - tend to spend more money than tourists.
We've had Nana the Living Handbag pitchforking away for years, and Gonzo's chum, Hounder Len Port whinging. We've had a whole cast of characters from PDL in a truly spectacular fit of self-pity combined with hate speech.
And now, following the defacement/destruction of Madeleine's posters, we have a local graffiti-ing walls to abuse the McCanns and Scotland Yard.
If they don't want to be regarded as haters, don't act like haters. At the very least, stop Gonzo supporters depicting PDL as the Village of the Damned.
So Portuguese residents of PDL are listed amongst the haters, too, are they ?
Act like haters, get regarded as haters.
We've had assorted PDL officials bleating and whining about the damage to their precious tourist trade, ignoring the fact that the media - and police - tend to spend more money than tourists.
We've had Nana the Living Handbag pitchforking away for years, and Gonzo's chum, Hounder Len Port whinging. We've had a whole cast of characters from PDL in a truly spectacular fit of self-pity combined with hate speech.
And now, following the defacement/destruction of Madeleine's posters, we have a local graffiti-ing walls to abuse the McCanns and Scotland Yard.
If they don't want to be regarded as haters, don't act like haters. At the very least, stop Gonzo supporters depicting PDL as the Village of the Damned.
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lily Wed Jun 11, 2014 1:07 pm
I don't think they want tourists, obviously. They want to keep the place all to themselves. Let them have it.
The police won't be there forever.
The police won't be there forever.
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bb1 Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:30 pm
A truly wonderful post on Myths, in reply to that fakelily troll:
http://stopthemyths.prophpbb.com/post237258.html#p237258
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PostPosted by Truthiness2 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:26 pm
You posted:
Faithlilly
What do you think it is about the McCanns that elicits such behaviour ?
You were referring to the graffiti that decorates the Eden that is PDL?
I'm going to answer your question as best I can:
The abduction of a child in a small town in Portugal has acted like sticky flypaper for the worst group of misfits, oddballs, rejects and psychologically disturbed people that modern culture has experienced in a long while.
It allows them (you) to forget their sad, empty lives for a while and use the McCanns as a social media punch bag: Supressed rage at your mothers, fathers, social services, doctors, the police, the government, Celtic FC, your health, fate, life, is all aimed at two strangers; their children, their extended family and Madeleine herself.
Nothing is beyond limits - stalking them, harassing them, threatening to abduct their twins, threatening to shoot them, tearing down images of their missing child, stalking them at the gym, stalking them at events their children take part in...etc
It's a 24/7 job for you all: No online newspaper escapes your organised spamming of their comments section. No journalist on twitter who dares to express sympathy for them is spared an organised hate and harassment campaign. Facebook recruits are groomed and wooed to the hate campaign with lies and myths.
The fact that two police forces have stressed that the McCanns are not suspects in the disappearance of their child is just ignored by you all because it would spoil your hobby and block an outlet for all that unrecognised self-hatred; and god knows there's nothing else to fill that huge, empty psychological hole.
Now, when Portuguese police and SY are working together to find out what happened to a missing child, an illiterate troll - one of your own - has defaced PDL and the good name of Portugal with, essentially, an anti tweet writ large in paint on a wall.
What elicits such behaviour? Not the McCanns, you vile woman, but poisonous venom and a deep hatred that was lying within that person long, long before 'Meddie' was even heard of.
http://stopthemyths.prophpbb.com/post237258.html#p237258
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PostPosted by Truthiness2 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:26 pm
You posted:
Faithlilly
What do you think it is about the McCanns that elicits such behaviour ?
You were referring to the graffiti that decorates the Eden that is PDL?
I'm going to answer your question as best I can:
The abduction of a child in a small town in Portugal has acted like sticky flypaper for the worst group of misfits, oddballs, rejects and psychologically disturbed people that modern culture has experienced in a long while.
It allows them (you) to forget their sad, empty lives for a while and use the McCanns as a social media punch bag: Supressed rage at your mothers, fathers, social services, doctors, the police, the government, Celtic FC, your health, fate, life, is all aimed at two strangers; their children, their extended family and Madeleine herself.
Nothing is beyond limits - stalking them, harassing them, threatening to abduct their twins, threatening to shoot them, tearing down images of their missing child, stalking them at the gym, stalking them at events their children take part in...etc
It's a 24/7 job for you all: No online newspaper escapes your organised spamming of their comments section. No journalist on twitter who dares to express sympathy for them is spared an organised hate and harassment campaign. Facebook recruits are groomed and wooed to the hate campaign with lies and myths.
The fact that two police forces have stressed that the McCanns are not suspects in the disappearance of their child is just ignored by you all because it would spoil your hobby and block an outlet for all that unrecognised self-hatred; and god knows there's nothing else to fill that huge, empty psychological hole.
Now, when Portuguese police and SY are working together to find out what happened to a missing child, an illiterate troll - one of your own - has defaced PDL and the good name of Portugal with, essentially, an anti tweet writ large in paint on a wall.
What elicits such behaviour? Not the McCanns, you vile woman, but poisonous venom and a deep hatred that was lying within that person long, long before 'Meddie' was even heard of.
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lily Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:35 pm
BRILLIANT. Well said Truthi because you have written what is the TRUTH.
Big applause like Bonny.
Big applause like Bonny.
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lily Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:45 pm
Since that graffiti was obviously influenced by Amoral's investigation then it has shown some terrible effects on the McCanns.
I hope that gets taken into account at the libel trial.
I hope that gets taken into account at the libel trial.
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bb1 Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:04 pm
Vile, but predictable, photoshopping being done by the McCann-haters.
Let's hope Ms Burley is watching, and uses their revolting sadism in the articles she is rumoured to be working on.
Let's hope Ms Burley is watching, and uses their revolting sadism in the articles she is rumoured to be working on.
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bb1 Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:56 pm
Well done Team Gonzo, you've made Portugal look bad yet again:
Eight-day search near apartments where Madeleine McCann vanished in 2007 is called off as locals turn on British police with graffiti calling officers 'stupid'
Detectives have finished eight-day search around Praia da Luz, Portugal
Met Police: 'No evidence relating to Madeleine McCann has been identified'
But officers may remain for months to test theory she was 'killed and buried'
Detectives broke into a building enclosed by metal gates in Algarve today
The search came after two areas outside Praia da Luz were examined earlier
Portuguese graffiti daubed on wall this morning calling British police 'stupid'
Madeleine, three, from Rothley, Leicestershire, vanished during 2007 holiday
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2654890/Police-Madeleine-McCann-search-begin-combing-new-patch-scrubland-today-near-went-missing-seven-years-ago.html#
Eight-day search near apartments where Madeleine McCann vanished in 2007 is called off as locals turn on British police with graffiti calling officers 'stupid'
Detectives have finished eight-day search around Praia da Luz, Portugal
Met Police: 'No evidence relating to Madeleine McCann has been identified'
But officers may remain for months to test theory she was 'killed and buried'
Detectives broke into a building enclosed by metal gates in Algarve today
The search came after two areas outside Praia da Luz were examined earlier
Portuguese graffiti daubed on wall this morning calling British police 'stupid'
Madeleine, three, from Rothley, Leicestershire, vanished during 2007 holiday
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2654890/Police-Madeleine-McCann-search-begin-combing-new-patch-scrubland-today-near-went-missing-seven-years-ago.html#
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bb1 Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:59 pm
One shopkeeper was sceptical over whether the searches would bring police any close to finding Madeleine. ‘People keep coming in asking what’s going on and where,’ he said. ‘It seems to be the new tourist attraction.
‘It is a beautiful resort and shouldn’t be spoiled by searches for a girl who disappeared a long time ago and will probably never be found.’
God Almighty, what horrible people live in that town! Bet he happily takes €€€€€€€€ from the police and media, though.
€€€€€€€€€ seems to be the only thing anyone in PDL cares about.
‘It is a beautiful resort and shouldn’t be spoiled by searches for a girl who disappeared a long time ago and will probably never be found.’
God Almighty, what horrible people live in that town! Bet he happily takes €€€€€€€€ from the police and media, though.
€€€€€€€€€ seems to be the only thing anyone in PDL cares about.
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lily Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:04 pm
What an a-h*le. I hope he gets his too. 
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bb1 Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:11 pm
I reckon someone in that town knows EXACTLY what happened to Madeleine, from their behaviour.
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lily Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:12 pm
So do I. Bonny. It's the only thing that makes any kind of sense.
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PostPosted by Jayelles » Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:37 am
Re the Daily Mail article in which a Praia da Luz resident is quoted as saying he/she thinks the police should nit be disturbing their tourist town looking for a child who went missing "a long time ago".
One reader commented that the town is doing itself no favours by showing disrespect and indeed disregard for a child who went missing from there and that in fact, they are missing a MASSIVE opportunity to portray themselves as a wonderfully caring community instead of one which cares only for $$$$. They have the eyes of the world focused on them right now - how much would that cost in terms of advertising? They have the opportunity to show the world what a lovely, warm and kind people they are. What do they do instead? March up and down in front of the cameras with poisonous placards and paint hideous "Village of the Damned" graffitos on a prominent wall.
Given an opportunity to showcase their best side, they have chosen to have a shyte, pick their moses and stick their middle fingers up at the cameras instead.
Many people are saying that there is now no way they would go there - not because a child went missing, but because of the black hearts within the community.
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bb1 Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:37 am
That's very true, LL. If PDL had shown the world - and let's not forget, people are following this story worldwide - how kind and friendly they are, how much they cared about Madeleine and her family, it would have been the best free advertising ever.
Instead, they've demonstrated that a fair number of them are greedy, cruel, nasty and money-grubbing. Huge, huge own goal - and the graffiti put the tin lid on it.
All those McCann-hating Gonzo fans saying how witty and clever the vandal was aren't going to make up for the damage it's done to PDL.
Worldwide.
Instead, they've demonstrated that a fair number of them are greedy, cruel, nasty and money-grubbing. Huge, huge own goal - and the graffiti put the tin lid on it.
All those McCann-hating Gonzo fans saying how witty and clever the vandal was aren't going to make up for the damage it's done to PDL.
Worldwide.
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bb1 Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:02 pm
Not surprisingly, the sex-obsessed whackjob Textusa thinks it's all wonderful:
Textusa11 Jun 2014 20:24:00
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=454768171326506&set=a.454768264659830.1073741826.100003799821045&type=1&theater
We urge the Mayor of Praia da Luz to keep this wall untouched. It is a symbol of patriotism, of the little man against enormous powers trying to subjugate him. It’s a HISTORIC site. DO NOT CLEAN THIS WALL!
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Anonymous11 Jun 2014 22:21:00
If it gets cleaned it will be re-written again and again! Unless the police guards the place 24/7...
(to what's there I would add " and the portuguese authorities have no balls!"
Brilliant idea! Let the entire world see what a shower of nasty, hate-filled moneygrubbers the residents of PDL are!
That graffiti is about as attractive to normal, decent people, as swastikas on Kristalnacht - it conveys the same level of blind hatred and bigotry.
Maybe they like millions of Sun readers seeing them described, yet again, as SICKOS?
SICK GRAFFITI NEAR DIG SITE
From GARY O'SHEA in Praia da Luz, Portugal
Thursday, June 12, 2014
SICKOS have sprayed messages attacking Madeleine McCann's parents and British cops - at the latest site of the hunt for clues to find the missing youngster.
The graffiti, in Portuguese and sprayed in red paint, said: "The parents killed Maddie. Stupid English police."
The untrue smears were daubed on a wall near scrubland hours before searching in Praia da Luz, where the three-year-old vanished in 2007.
And last night Met officers admitted their eight-day trawl of the holiday resort had so far failed to turn up any evidence.
But Scotland Yard chiefs said months of painstaking work lies ahead as police examine fresh theories.
A spokesman said: "At this time no evidence relating to Madeleine McCann has been identified."
He said of the searches: "This was the first phase of this major investigation which has been agreed with the Portuguese.
"More activity has been agreed and we expect that to commence shortly.
"Further requests are being compiled and will be submitted in due course."
The spokesman revealed: "The total area of land searched and surveyed was approximately 60,000 sq metres and included all utilities, drainage channels and derelict buildings."
He said 41 "ground anomalies" - potential burial plots - had been probed.
And he added: "This recent work is part of ensuring that all lines of enquiry are progressed in a systematic manner and covers just the one hypothesis that she (Madeleine) was killed and buried locally."
The youngster's mum and dad - Kate, 46, and Gerry, 45, of Rothley, Leics - were cleared as suspects in their daughter's disappearance in July 2008.
They refused to comment about the malicious graffiti last night. But a spokesman for the couple said: "In the light of what Scotland Yard have said, Kate and Gerry continue to have full confidence in Operation Grange and remain very grateful to all the officers for the work they have been doing on the ground in Portugal.
"In the absence of any evidence to the contrary, they continue to believe that Madeleine is still alive and out there waiting to be found."
Textusa11 Jun 2014 20:24:00
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=454768171326506&set=a.454768264659830.1073741826.100003799821045&type=1&theater
We urge the Mayor of Praia da Luz to keep this wall untouched. It is a symbol of patriotism, of the little man against enormous powers trying to subjugate him. It’s a HISTORIC site. DO NOT CLEAN THIS WALL!
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Anonymous11 Jun 2014 22:21:00
If it gets cleaned it will be re-written again and again! Unless the police guards the place 24/7...
(to what's there I would add " and the portuguese authorities have no balls!"
Brilliant idea! Let the entire world see what a shower of nasty, hate-filled moneygrubbers the residents of PDL are!
That graffiti is about as attractive to normal, decent people, as swastikas on Kristalnacht - it conveys the same level of blind hatred and bigotry.
Maybe they like millions of Sun readers seeing them described, yet again, as SICKOS?
SICK GRAFFITI NEAR DIG SITE
From GARY O'SHEA in Praia da Luz, Portugal
Thursday, June 12, 2014
SICKOS have sprayed messages attacking Madeleine McCann's parents and British cops - at the latest site of the hunt for clues to find the missing youngster.
The graffiti, in Portuguese and sprayed in red paint, said: "The parents killed Maddie. Stupid English police."
The untrue smears were daubed on a wall near scrubland hours before searching in Praia da Luz, where the three-year-old vanished in 2007.
And last night Met officers admitted their eight-day trawl of the holiday resort had so far failed to turn up any evidence.
But Scotland Yard chiefs said months of painstaking work lies ahead as police examine fresh theories.
A spokesman said: "At this time no evidence relating to Madeleine McCann has been identified."
He said of the searches: "This was the first phase of this major investigation which has been agreed with the Portuguese.
"More activity has been agreed and we expect that to commence shortly.
"Further requests are being compiled and will be submitted in due course."
The spokesman revealed: "The total area of land searched and surveyed was approximately 60,000 sq metres and included all utilities, drainage channels and derelict buildings."
He said 41 "ground anomalies" - potential burial plots - had been probed.
And he added: "This recent work is part of ensuring that all lines of enquiry are progressed in a systematic manner and covers just the one hypothesis that she (Madeleine) was killed and buried locally."
The youngster's mum and dad - Kate, 46, and Gerry, 45, of Rothley, Leics - were cleared as suspects in their daughter's disappearance in July 2008.
They refused to comment about the malicious graffiti last night. But a spokesman for the couple said: "In the light of what Scotland Yard have said, Kate and Gerry continue to have full confidence in Operation Grange and remain very grateful to all the officers for the work they have been doing on the ground in Portugal.
"In the absence of any evidence to the contrary, they continue to believe that Madeleine is still alive and out there waiting to be found."
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lily Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:16 pm
It's true. Jayelles made a very factual statement in mentioning this major amount of free advertizing. It could have been used for the good but true to form, it has been used for the bad. No, strike that, evil.
Something else to come back to haunt them.
Do the sickos actually think they are clever?
Something else to come back to haunt them.
Do the sickos actually think they are clever?
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