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http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/oct/13/madeleine-mccann-forensic-scientists-portugal
Forensic scientists to join British police in McCann investigation
Analysts want to re-examine evidence retrieved from apartment from which Madeleine went missing in 2007
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The Guardian, Monday 13 October 2014 23.18 BST
A team of British forensic analysts are expected to join DCI Andy Redwood and his team of detectives in Portugal this week in a renewed bid to uncover the truth behind the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
Portuguese police sources told the Guardian that the scientists have asked to revisit some of the evidence retrieved from the holiday apartment from which the British toddler went missing on 3 May 2007. The forensic evidence gathered at the time of Madeleine’s disappearance has been stored at the National Institute for Legal Medicine and Forensic Sciences in Coimbra in central Portugal.
Detectives and forensic technicians from the Metropolitan police are scheduled to visit the laboratory on Wednesday.
Detectives led by Redwood will meet with their Polícia Judiciária counterparts in Faro on Tuesday to discuss the request.
Police said they had not yet received any official orders from the public prosecutor’s office and that the next phase of the investigation was unlikely to commence for at least a fortnight.
A source close to the case told the Guardian that the request appeared “to focus primarily on the further questioning of some of the suspects brought in by Faro police in the summer”.
In July, Portuguese police quizzed four Portuguese nationals who were declared arguidos, or formal suspects. They also spoke to 11 witnesses.
The questioning of these suspects followed the end of major ground-level searches in Praia da Luz in early June, when Scotland Yard detectives scoured a large patch of scrubland.
The force described the operation as the largest overseas deployment ever undertaken by British police, and said it was the “first phase of this investigation” into Madeleine’s disappearance.
Although the searches turned up no fresh evidence, the Met said detectives had gained an “essential understanding of the activity for which people have used this piece of land” and alluded to “substantial work which is yet to be done in the coming months”.
Mayhap some of the DNA and the fingerprints that were never identified matches that of the Portuguese suspects?
Forensic scientists to join British police in McCann investigation
Analysts want to re-examine evidence retrieved from apartment from which Madeleine went missing in 2007
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The Guardian, Monday 13 October 2014 23.18 BST
A team of British forensic analysts are expected to join DCI Andy Redwood and his team of detectives in Portugal this week in a renewed bid to uncover the truth behind the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
Portuguese police sources told the Guardian that the scientists have asked to revisit some of the evidence retrieved from the holiday apartment from which the British toddler went missing on 3 May 2007. The forensic evidence gathered at the time of Madeleine’s disappearance has been stored at the National Institute for Legal Medicine and Forensic Sciences in Coimbra in central Portugal.
Detectives and forensic technicians from the Metropolitan police are scheduled to visit the laboratory on Wednesday.
Detectives led by Redwood will meet with their Polícia Judiciária counterparts in Faro on Tuesday to discuss the request.
Police said they had not yet received any official orders from the public prosecutor’s office and that the next phase of the investigation was unlikely to commence for at least a fortnight.
A source close to the case told the Guardian that the request appeared “to focus primarily on the further questioning of some of the suspects brought in by Faro police in the summer”.
In July, Portuguese police quizzed four Portuguese nationals who were declared arguidos, or formal suspects. They also spoke to 11 witnesses.
The questioning of these suspects followed the end of major ground-level searches in Praia da Luz in early June, when Scotland Yard detectives scoured a large patch of scrubland.
The force described the operation as the largest overseas deployment ever undertaken by British police, and said it was the “first phase of this investigation” into Madeleine’s disappearance.
Although the searches turned up no fresh evidence, the Met said detectives had gained an “essential understanding of the activity for which people have used this piece of land” and alluded to “substantial work which is yet to be done in the coming months”.
Mayhap some of the DNA and the fingerprints that were never identified matches that of the Portuguese suspects?
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I agree with: "Mayhap some of the DNA and the fingerprints that were never identified matches that of the Portuguese suspects?".
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If the haters ever bothered to actually read the police files, instead of just pretending to, then they would know about the unidentified material.
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Joana Morais @xklamation
Not sure why people are quoting @guardian article when the facts are different
Sane, sensible people will trust the Guardian over a hateblogger, or some Portuguese rag that can't even tell the difference between 'British' and 'English'.
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Joana Morais @xklamation
Not sure why people are quoting @guardian article when the facts are different
Sane, sensible people will trust the Guardian over a hateblogger, or some Portuguese rag that can't even tell the difference between 'British' and 'English'.
LOL, the woman who hosts a site which contains tens of thousands of copyright articles from newspapers (including The Guardian), so that people can refer to them, is telling everyone not to trust the papers. She is so focused on defending the indefensible that she doesn't even notice the contradictions in her own statements and actions. Why should anyone believe her when she has told so many lies either openly or by omission? We all know she has zero ability to judge what is true and what is not true. She told everybody that herself.
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This tells you all anyone needs to know about Morais:
That's her, publicly grovelling to Isabel Duarte for inventing a pack of malicious lies about the lawyer.
FORGIVE ME FOR THE ABOVE MENTIONED LIE ~ Morais begging for mercy.
That's her, publicly grovelling to Isabel Duarte for inventing a pack of malicious lies about the lawyer.
FORGIVE ME FOR THE ABOVE MENTIONED LIE ~ Morais begging for mercy.
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A hounder asks:
Can anyone remind me what was the innocent explanation for Mrs Mcc's fingerprint[s]? being found on the shutters?
The most innocent explanation of all.
THEY WEREN'T.
Do these fools NEVER bother to read the police files?
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FINGERPRINTS.htm
Outside of the external blinds to the children's bedroom: three inadequate prints were recovered.
Can anyone remind me what was the innocent explanation for Mrs Mcc's fingerprint[s]? being found on the shutters?
The most innocent explanation of all.
THEY WEREN'T.
Do these fools NEVER bother to read the police files?
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FINGERPRINTS.htm
Outside of the external blinds to the children's bedroom: three inadequate prints were recovered.
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/522577/Maddie-Madeleine-McCann-Cops-Search-Back-Portugal
Madeleine McCann detectives return to Portugal to re-question suspects
SCOTLAND Yard detectives investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann have returned to the Algarve for the first time since quizzing four suspects at the start of July.
he Operation Grange detectives arrived in Faro yesterday on a BA flight from Gatwick before picking up a hire car and driving to their hotel.
Only a small team of three officers - led by Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood - made the trip.
They were due at Faro Police Station early today (TUE) for a meeting with Policia Judiciaria counterparts.
The meeting - described as "routine" - follows the appointment of a new woman prosecutor to the case. Ines Sequeira has yet to approve a fifth letter of request sent by British authorities earlier this year.
British detectives - who are understood to want to re-interview three of the four Madeleine McCann suspects they questioned in July - are expected to press for a quick 'yes' to their new bid to crack the seven-year-old mystery of Madeleine's disappearance.
Mrs Sequeira took over from predecessor Jose Magalhaes e Menezes last week and has told colleagues she views the Madeleine McCann case as a priority.
It is thought the Operation Grange detectives may seek a meeting with her before they return to London.
A source close to former GP Kate and consultant cardiologist Gerry, both 46, has said they think the appointment is a "step in the right direction."
The new Scotland Yard trip to Portugal comes after it emerged the cost of the British police search for Madeleine will top £10million - double the original amount estimated by the Home Office when the force was called in by David Cameron in 2011.
The Operation Grange inquiry is running in parallel with a new Portuguese probe, reopened in May more than five years after being shelved.
The reopening of the investigation in Portugal coincided with news a former employee at the Ocean Club holiday resort in Praia de Luz where Madeleine vanished, had been identified as a suspect.
ecovering heroin addict Euclides Monteiro, a convicted burglar, died in a tractor accident in 2009.
His widow Luisa Rodrigues was interviewed by Portuguese detectives but insisted he was an innocent man and has been fighting to get authorities to confirm they have now ruled him out as a suspect.
Portuguese police believe Madeleine was snatched by a foreigner no longer in Portugal, although the Cape Verde immigrant is still officially a suspect.
They have privately dismissed the British police work, which involved digs and sewer searches for her body in June in Praia da Luz, as "senseless."
The Home Office has defending the rising cost of the British police probe, insisting: "The Government believes it is right that it does all it can to support the search for Madeleine McCann."
Madeleine McCann detectives return to Portugal to re-question suspects
SCOTLAND Yard detectives investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann have returned to the Algarve for the first time since quizzing four suspects at the start of July.
he Operation Grange detectives arrived in Faro yesterday on a BA flight from Gatwick before picking up a hire car and driving to their hotel.
Only a small team of three officers - led by Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood - made the trip.
They were due at Faro Police Station early today (TUE) for a meeting with Policia Judiciaria counterparts.
The meeting - described as "routine" - follows the appointment of a new woman prosecutor to the case. Ines Sequeira has yet to approve a fifth letter of request sent by British authorities earlier this year.
British detectives - who are understood to want to re-interview three of the four Madeleine McCann suspects they questioned in July - are expected to press for a quick 'yes' to their new bid to crack the seven-year-old mystery of Madeleine's disappearance.
Mrs Sequeira took over from predecessor Jose Magalhaes e Menezes last week and has told colleagues she views the Madeleine McCann case as a priority.
It is thought the Operation Grange detectives may seek a meeting with her before they return to London.
A source close to former GP Kate and consultant cardiologist Gerry, both 46, has said they think the appointment is a "step in the right direction."
The new Scotland Yard trip to Portugal comes after it emerged the cost of the British police search for Madeleine will top £10million - double the original amount estimated by the Home Office when the force was called in by David Cameron in 2011.
The Operation Grange inquiry is running in parallel with a new Portuguese probe, reopened in May more than five years after being shelved.
The reopening of the investigation in Portugal coincided with news a former employee at the Ocean Club holiday resort in Praia de Luz where Madeleine vanished, had been identified as a suspect.
ecovering heroin addict Euclides Monteiro, a convicted burglar, died in a tractor accident in 2009.
His widow Luisa Rodrigues was interviewed by Portuguese detectives but insisted he was an innocent man and has been fighting to get authorities to confirm they have now ruled him out as a suspect.
Portuguese police believe Madeleine was snatched by a foreigner no longer in Portugal, although the Cape Verde immigrant is still officially a suspect.
They have privately dismissed the British police work, which involved digs and sewer searches for her body in June in Praia da Luz, as "senseless."
The Home Office has defending the rising cost of the British police probe, insisting: "The Government believes it is right that it does all it can to support the search for Madeleine McCann."
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My friends, this was taken from Portugal Resident newspaper:
http://portugalresident.com/madeleine-cops-%E2%80%9Cback-in-portugal%E2%80%9D
http://portugalresident.com/madeleine-cops-%E2%80%9Cback-in-portugal%E2%80%9D
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http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20141014/local/update-2-76-year-old-briton-to-be-extradited-possibly-linked-to-mccann-case.539720#
Tuesday, October 14, 2014, 12:46
Update 2 - 76-year-old Briton to be extradited - possibly linked to McCann case
A 76-year-old British national, who was living in Gozo, will be extradited to the UK where he will serve time for the sexual assault of a girl aged under 13.
Roderick Macdonald, who was living in an apartment at Ta Cenc, consented to be extradited this morning before Magistrate Audrey Demicoli.
He was arrested by the Malta police in the whereabouts of Sannat yesterday.
Roderick Macdonald – who also used the surname Robinson – is also wanted by UK police who believe he can shed light on a paedophile ring possibly linked to the abduction of Madeleine McCann, according to UK tabloid newspapers Daily Mail and the Mirror.
Madeleine McCann has been missing since May 2007. She disappeared during a family holiday in Portugal as her parents Kate and Gerry were eating in a near-by restaurant
The Mirror reported that Mr Macdonald was in Algarve when the three-year-old vanished in 2007.Scotland Yard detectives chasing new leads in Praia da Luz where Madeleine went missing wanted to quiz him about paedophile rings in the area in 2007.
Police were investigating 18 possible linked break-ins at Algarve villas by a lone intruder from 2004 to 2010.The attacks stopped in 2010, at around the time Robinson was deported from Portugal to Australia for raping an eight-year-old girl there, the Mirror reported in May.
Within weeks of his release the former oil rig worker fled to Thailand but three months later he was deported back to Britain after Thai authorities found out about his past.
He moved to south coast resort Brighton where he was made to sign the sex offenders register but in 2012 he was given a suspended prison sentence in 2012 for abusing five- and seven-year-old girls in Brighton who bore a resemblance to Madeleine, the Mirror reported.
Mr Macdonald appeared in court in Malta this morning under arrest on the strength of a provisional arrest warrant issued by the courts after the UK judicial authorities requested his extradition "to serve a term of imprisonment of sexual assault of a female under 13 years of age".
A European Arrest Warrant had been issued against him on April 25, 2013, by the Lewes Crown Court in East Sussex
Police Inspector Mario Cuschieri prosecuted.
Tuesday, October 14, 2014, 12:46
Update 2 - 76-year-old Briton to be extradited - possibly linked to McCann case
A 76-year-old British national, who was living in Gozo, will be extradited to the UK where he will serve time for the sexual assault of a girl aged under 13.
Roderick Macdonald, who was living in an apartment at Ta Cenc, consented to be extradited this morning before Magistrate Audrey Demicoli.
He was arrested by the Malta police in the whereabouts of Sannat yesterday.
Roderick Macdonald – who also used the surname Robinson – is also wanted by UK police who believe he can shed light on a paedophile ring possibly linked to the abduction of Madeleine McCann, according to UK tabloid newspapers Daily Mail and the Mirror.
Madeleine McCann has been missing since May 2007. She disappeared during a family holiday in Portugal as her parents Kate and Gerry were eating in a near-by restaurant
The Mirror reported that Mr Macdonald was in Algarve when the three-year-old vanished in 2007.Scotland Yard detectives chasing new leads in Praia da Luz where Madeleine went missing wanted to quiz him about paedophile rings in the area in 2007.
Police were investigating 18 possible linked break-ins at Algarve villas by a lone intruder from 2004 to 2010.The attacks stopped in 2010, at around the time Robinson was deported from Portugal to Australia for raping an eight-year-old girl there, the Mirror reported in May.
Within weeks of his release the former oil rig worker fled to Thailand but three months later he was deported back to Britain after Thai authorities found out about his past.
He moved to south coast resort Brighton where he was made to sign the sex offenders register but in 2012 he was given a suspended prison sentence in 2012 for abusing five- and seven-year-old girls in Brighton who bore a resemblance to Madeleine, the Mirror reported.
Mr Macdonald appeared in court in Malta this morning under arrest on the strength of a provisional arrest warrant issued by the courts after the UK judicial authorities requested his extradition "to serve a term of imprisonment of sexual assault of a female under 13 years of age".
A European Arrest Warrant had been issued against him on April 25, 2013, by the Lewes Crown Court in East Sussex
Police Inspector Mario Cuschieri prosecuted.
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Curious, is it not, that not one of the McCann-haters EVER condemns the scumbag/s that abducted Madeleine McCann? Are we to assume that they all think it's OK to abduct sleeping children from their beds?
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Have they started their typical posting to display how sorry they are for this pervert being placed in the Madeleine case?
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Naturally, Lily.
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What with child abuse being the haters' second-favourite topic of conversation (lying, smearing and denigrating the McCann family coming first) it's odd that they seem unaware that perverts speak to other perverts about their sickening activities.
Never mind, the real police know.
Never mind, the real police know.
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New DNA tests
Was not some hater idiot claiming earlier today that the Mirror was trying to 'hide' the story about the Yard and the forensics?
What's this, then?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-mystery-dna-tested-4438451
Madeleine McCann: Mystery DNA tested to locate her kidnapper
Oct 14, 2014 20:20 By Gerard Couzens
Metropolitan Police proposing DNA tests on key samples that have been stored for seven years
Scotland Yard detectives probing Madeleine McCann’s disappearance are to propose new tests on mystery DNA that could belong to her kidnapper.
The Operation Grange team have been invited into the bunker where key samples collected from the holiday flat she vanished from are being held.
The Met Police officers plan to discuss new ways of analysing evidence held on file for the past seven years at a forensic science HQ in Coimbra north of Lisbon.
They are expected to focus on DNA found in Madeleine’s bedroom that does not belong to any of her family or workers at the Ocean Club holiday resort where she was staying who were tested at the time.
They hope modern-day technology could help them match the samples, described as “vague”, with DNA taken from three new suspects who were questioned in July.
Their visit to the National Institute for Legal Medicine and Forensic Sciences comes 24 hours after they met Portuguese police chiefs in the Algarve capital Faro a four-hour drive away.
Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood and two colleagues pressed for an quick response to their bid to do more background work on the three suspects during talks with local police chiefs Luis Mota Carmo and Ana Paula Rito.
New prosecutor Ines Sequeira, who has the final say about Scotland Yard’s fifth international of request, is expected to answer detectives in the next fortnight.
Mr Redwood declined to comment before being driven away from Faro police station in the back seat of a BMW hire car.
Asked about the new prosecutor and his hopes from the trip to Coimbra, he said: “I’m sorry but I’ve nothing to say.”
What's this, then?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-mystery-dna-tested-4438451
Madeleine McCann: Mystery DNA tested to locate her kidnapper
Oct 14, 2014 20:20 By Gerard Couzens
Metropolitan Police proposing DNA tests on key samples that have been stored for seven years
Scotland Yard detectives probing Madeleine McCann’s disappearance are to propose new tests on mystery DNA that could belong to her kidnapper.
The Operation Grange team have been invited into the bunker where key samples collected from the holiday flat she vanished from are being held.
The Met Police officers plan to discuss new ways of analysing evidence held on file for the past seven years at a forensic science HQ in Coimbra north of Lisbon.
They are expected to focus on DNA found in Madeleine’s bedroom that does not belong to any of her family or workers at the Ocean Club holiday resort where she was staying who were tested at the time.
They hope modern-day technology could help them match the samples, described as “vague”, with DNA taken from three new suspects who were questioned in July.
Their visit to the National Institute for Legal Medicine and Forensic Sciences comes 24 hours after they met Portuguese police chiefs in the Algarve capital Faro a four-hour drive away.
Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood and two colleagues pressed for an quick response to their bid to do more background work on the three suspects during talks with local police chiefs Luis Mota Carmo and Ana Paula Rito.
New prosecutor Ines Sequeira, who has the final say about Scotland Yard’s fifth international of request, is expected to answer detectives in the next fortnight.
Mr Redwood declined to comment before being driven away from Faro police station in the back seat of a BMW hire car.
Asked about the new prosecutor and his hopes from the trip to Coimbra, he said: “I’m sorry but I’ve nothing to say.”
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They are expected to focus on DNA found in Madeleine’s bedroom that does not belong to any of her family or workers at the Ocean Club holiday resort where she was staying who were tested at the time.
Of course, if the haters spent as much time reading the forensic reports in the police files as they do inventing conspiracies, stalking people, obsessing about the McCanns, fighting with each other and being generally horrible, then they would have known all along about the unidentified material in 5A.
But oh no, they either ignored all that, or didn't bother reading anything that didn't suit their twisted agenda.
Fortunately, the REAL police are a bit more thorough.
Of course, if the haters spent as much time reading the forensic reports in the police files as they do inventing conspiracies, stalking people, obsessing about the McCanns, fighting with each other and being generally horrible, then they would have known all along about the unidentified material in 5A.
But oh no, they either ignored all that, or didn't bother reading anything that didn't suit their twisted agenda.
Fortunately, the REAL police are a bit more thorough.
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It never ceases to amaze me how the assorted numpties seem to imagine themselves as somehow knowing more about any aspect of this investigation than the police themselves.
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Oh my. Stand by for even more anger.
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I doubt if this vile old perv was directly involved, Lily, but there seem to have been rather a lot of them in Portugal at the time Madeleine was abducted. I wonder if he ever bumped into Hewlett?
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Hounder:
Call me old fashioned,but shouldn't forensics have been the first or 2nd thing checked at the start of this 3 years ago?
Er, against whom was UNKNOWN DNA supposed to be checked, before the Yard did the work Gonzo should have done seven years ago?
Call me old fashioned,but shouldn't forensics have been the first or 2nd thing checked at the start of this 3 years ago?
Er, against whom was UNKNOWN DNA supposed to be checked, before the Yard did the work Gonzo should have done seven years ago?
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Bonny......*cough* you will be getting them all upset again by even writing about Amoral not doing the work he was supposed to have done or ordered done, 7 years ago.
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One never ceases to be amazed by their stupidity.
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Madeleine McCann: Mystery DNA tested to locate her kidnapper
My friends, this was taken from The Mirror newspaper:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-mystery-dna-tested-4438451
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-mystery-dna-tested-4438451
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They are expected to focus on DNA found in Madeleine’s bedroom that does not belong to any of her family or workers at the Ocean Club holiday resort where she was staying who were tested at the time.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-mystery-dna-tested-4438451#ixzz3GFwP9XrB
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It's amazing how many of the haters don't know - or pretend they don't know - about the unidentified material. Odd, with them all claiming to have read the police files.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-mystery-dna-tested-4438451#ixzz3GFwP9XrB
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It's amazing how many of the haters don't know - or pretend they don't know - about the unidentified material. Odd, with them all claiming to have read the police files.
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